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Agent001 submitted on 6/19/2009 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 11:44:39 PM
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001 spent the day driving, testing and photographing the upcoming 2010 Ford Taurus SHO. I like the car (actually have one for the weekend to test) and I have been reading lots of positive comments on our site.But the one thing that keeps going through my mind is will Americans pay $37k for a Taurus?The car has lots of value for the money (see chart comparisons) but in this market, will it sell?We can't giving you our driving impressions of the car until June 22nd due to a Ford imposed Press Embargo.But we CAN show you the best 2010 Ford Taurus and Taurus SHO photo gallery complete with our photos taken this week.Here are just a few highlights from our shoot today...be sure to view the entire gallery at your leisure.You WON'T be disappointed!2010 Ford Taurus and Taurus SHO Photo Gallery2010 Ford Taurus and Taurus SHO Photo GalleryAutoSpies.com Photo Galleries If you want to see your photos running on our homepage photo ticker, be sure to upload your photos on the go by sending them to Mobile@AutoSpies.com Share on Facebook
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FWD Torque Steer. Absolute proof the Devil exists. — Agent001 (View Profile)
FWD Torque Steer. Absolute proof the Devil exists.
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The car is unreal! Get in line people...— THESCOOTER (View Profile)
The car is unreal! Get in line people...
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Posted on 6/20/2009 12:26:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7
Of course. What car give you the performance, tech and value at that price? The SHO won't be sold in large volumes, so at lease you won't see yourself going and coming. Vehicles in the same price point. (Do they have the same features?)Acura TSX $37,000Acura TL $38,000Chrysler 300 $39,000Hyundai Genesis $37,000Pontiac G8 $37,000VW CC $38,000— inspirion7 (View Profile)
Of course. What car give you the performance, tech and value at that price? The SHO won't be sold in large volumes, so at lease you won't see yourself going and coming. Vehicles in the same price point. (Do they have the same features?)Acura TSX $37,000Acura TL $38,000Chrysler 300 $39,000Hyundai Genesis $37,000Pontiac G8 $37,000VW CC $38,000
— inspirion7 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:26:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9
I think a lot of people find it hard to admit that technically Ford has done an excellent job (0-60 times come from Edmunds Insideline crosssected with manufacturers' estimate).BMW 535ix xDrive: EPA 17city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.5 secLexus GS350 AWD: EPA 18city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secAudi A6 3.0T quattro: EPA 18city/26hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secFord Taurus SHO EcoBoost: EPA 17city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secEdmunds real life observed:BMW 535i: 22.5 mpgLexus GS350: 22.9 mpgAudi A6 3.0T quattro: 16.3 mpgFord Taurus SHO: yet to be estimatedAs you can see, the Taurus plays with the best. BMW twinturbo direct-injected R6 and Lexus twin-injected are the best engines in their class, having collected numerous awards. And yet EcoBoost is on par with them.Then take into account the Taurus size. It's longer than all the flagships: Lexus LS, Mercedes S, new BMW 7, Audi A8 (although its wheelbase is significantly shorter).Some complaints are about Taurus handling..."Handling Comments: (Skid pad) Chassis is slow to respond to steering input -- not at the sidewall level, but due to body motions. Understeers with maintenance throttle and lifting to get rotation awakens stability control. (Slalom) To keep from arriving late at each cone, I had to dial the speed down. Friction-free steering with mild load-up. Just as understeer begins, stability control starts grabbing brake, then throttle dips. Would be nice to turn off stability control, but you can't do that unless you get the optional performance package. That same package also adds better tires which would likely improve results."Source: http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/06/il-track-tested-2010-ford-taurus-sho-vs-pontiac-g8-gt.html...but considering the car size it's not really that much of an issue.— MrBratwurst (View Profile)
I think a lot of people find it hard to admit that technically Ford has done an excellent job (0-60 times come from Edmunds Insideline crosssected with manufacturers' estimate).BMW 535ix xDrive: EPA 17city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.5 secLexus GS350 AWD: EPA 18city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secAudi A6 3.0T quattro: EPA 18city/26hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secFord Taurus SHO EcoBoost: EPA 17city/25hwy 0-60 in some 5.8 secEdmunds real life observed:BMW 535i: 22.5 mpgLexus GS350: 22.9 mpgAudi A6 3.0T quattro: 16.3 mpgFord Taurus SHO: yet to be estimatedAs you can see, the Taurus plays with the best. BMW twinturbo direct-injected R6 and Lexus twin-injected are the best engines in their class, having collected numerous awards. And yet EcoBoost is on par with them.Then take into account the Taurus size. It's longer than all the flagships: Lexus LS, Mercedes S, new BMW 7, Audi A8 (although its wheelbase is significantly shorter).Some complaints are about Taurus handling..."Handling Comments: (Skid pad) Chassis is slow to respond to steering input -- not at the sidewall level, but due to body motions. Understeers with maintenance throttle and lifting to get rotation awakens stability control. (Slalom) To keep from arriving late at each cone, I had to dial the speed down. Friction-free steering with mild load-up. Just as understeer begins, stability control starts grabbing brake, then throttle dips. Would be nice to turn off stability control, but you can't do that unless you get the optional performance package. That same package also adds better tires which would likely improve results."Source: http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/06/il-track-tested-2010-ford-taurus-sho-vs-pontiac-g8-gt.html...but considering the car size it's not really that much of an issue.
— MrBratwurst (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 7:14:50 AM | | Votes: 6
good luck selling theseand since when was 25mpg "highway" eco-friendly?— recca7 (View Profile)
good luck selling theseand since when was 25mpg "highway" eco-friendly?
— recca7 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:54:14 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -10
Can you name any other mid/full size car with over 350HP that can beat 25mpg highway.— upwards (View Profile)
Can you name any other mid/full size car with over 350HP that can beat 25mpg highway.
— upwards (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 1:01:51 AM | | Votes: 14
what I'm saying is it's not eco-friendly. It may have a lot of power but majority of customers who are shopping for an eco-friendly, fuel saving car wouldn't be looking for something with this much power and such poor mpg. That's just highway, what do you think the city numbers are?— recca7 (View Profile)
what I'm saying is it's not eco-friendly. It may have a lot of power but majority of customers who are shopping for an eco-friendly, fuel saving car wouldn't be looking for something with this much power and such poor mpg. That's just highway, what do you think the city numbers are?
Posted on 6/20/2009 1:17:47 AM | | Votes: -5
It's a good point: 17/25 is not exactly stellar gas mileage, or at least anything to write home about. My old Lexus LS430, with a big-ol V8, is rated at 18/25. It's marginally better than other US manufacturers' [poor] offerings, but at 4300+ lbs, it doesn't have a hp/weight much better (if at all) than other offerings, and the mpg is not a significant improvement. It's not a bad car, I just don't see anything really that compelling.— sigmabody (View Profile)
It's a good point: 17/25 is not exactly stellar gas mileage, or at least anything to write home about. My old Lexus LS430, with a big-ol V8, is rated at 18/25. It's marginally better than other US manufacturers' [poor] offerings, but at 4300+ lbs, it doesn't have a hp/weight much better (if at all) than other offerings, and the mpg is not a significant improvement. It's not a bad car, I just don't see anything really that compelling.
— sigmabody (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 1:58:23 AM | | Votes: -2
The SHO isn't trying to be eco friendly. Get a Prius. This car is about performance, period. It just so happens to use a high output V-6 to do the job. Apples and Oranges. A sample of cars below show much lower performance with marginally different mpg. I would say the Eco Boost is far more superior in performance and output to petrol ratio than the engines below. Lexus LS600h didn't pretend to go after eco friendly Prius buyers. It focus on the novelty of the vehicle plus it didn't really make a major difference in savings compared to a std V8. The SHO MPG/output compared to: GS 450 22/25 @ 340 HP, BMW 550i 15/18 @360 HP, MB E 550 15/26 @382 HP, Acura TL 16/22 @ 300HPAccord V6 21/30 @ 244 HPFusion V6 19/27 @ 221 HPSonata V6 19/29 @ 265 HPES350 V6 19/27 @ 268 HP— inspirion7 (View Profile)
The SHO isn't trying to be eco friendly. Get a Prius. This car is about performance, period. It just so happens to use a high output V-6 to do the job. Apples and Oranges. A sample of cars below show much lower performance with marginally different mpg. I would say the Eco Boost is far more superior in performance and output to petrol ratio than the engines below. Lexus LS600h didn't pretend to go after eco friendly Prius buyers. It focus on the novelty of the vehicle plus it didn't really make a major difference in savings compared to a std V8. The SHO MPG/output compared to: GS 450 22/25 @ 340 HP, BMW 550i 15/18 @360 HP, MB E 550 15/26 @382 HP, Acura TL 16/22 @ 300HPAccord V6 21/30 @ 244 HPFusion V6 19/27 @ 221 HPSonata V6 19/29 @ 265 HPES350 V6 19/27 @ 268 HP
Posted on 6/20/2009 3:28:16 AM | | Votes: 4
this car is "relativley" eco friendly for cars that have over 350HP. Ford could just have easily made a 4 cylinder eco-boost and gave it 220 hp and got 35mpg highway.— upwards (View Profile)
this car is "relativley" eco friendly for cars that have over 350HP. Ford could just have easily made a 4 cylinder eco-boost and gave it 220 hp and got 35mpg highway.
Posted on 6/20/2009 8:50:24 AM | | Votes: 8
Agree, if you are only getting 25mpg, might as well get a comfortable and roomy SUV.— Invisible (View Profile)
Agree, if you are only getting 25mpg, might as well get a comfortable and roomy SUV.
— Invisible (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:15:07 PM | | Votes: -1
One thing is for sure - the car is huge! I believe it's even longer in overall length than the Lexus LS 460 and 600h L, the long wheelbase models.I don't know why it took me so long to notice that the new Taurus was based on the Interceptor Concept, which I had once thought to be a cool looking truck.I like this car; I'd take it over a 528i and E320. There's a chance that those three vehicles will be in the same comparison for future executive car buyers.— WorldofLuxury (View Profile)
One thing is for sure - the car is huge! I believe it's even longer in overall length than the Lexus LS 460 and 600h L, the long wheelbase models.I don't know why it took me so long to notice that the new Taurus was based on the Interceptor Concept, which I had once thought to be a cool looking truck.I like this car; I'd take it over a 528i and E320. There's a chance that those three vehicles will be in the same comparison for future executive car buyers.
— WorldofLuxury (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:59:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4
And 6 months after you've taken it home it'll be worth $25k... — 610looper (View Profile)
And 6 months after you've taken it home it'll be worth $25k...
— 610looper (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:30:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
Just like any other high end car — toolatetorace (View Profile)
Just like any other high end car
— toolatetorace (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 6:37:47 AM | | Votes: 8
that's not true, the SHO's $40K European and Japanese competitors hold their value quite well...— 610looper (View Profile)
that's not true, the SHO's $40K European and Japanese competitors hold their value quite well...
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:04:05 PM | | Votes: 1
Wow, you are being generous.— Invisible (View Profile)
Wow, you are being generous.
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:17:31 PM | | Votes: 1
I hate this car, but I have to admit there would be many people who would buy this at $37K. This car would be perfect for Middle American (Midwestern and Southern) White Guys aged 40-50, with jobs making $50,000 + per year. I can also see a few White guys in California and New Jersey scooping these up as well.The old school version of this car has a cult following; mostly those aforementioned White guys I talked about. So yeah Ford will probably part with 30,000-75,000 of these during the 2010-2015 5 year life cycle. That depends on many factors Economy, Gas Prices, etc....— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
I hate this car, but I have to admit there would be many people who would buy this at $37K. This car would be perfect for Middle American (Midwestern and Southern) White Guys aged 40-50, with jobs making $50,000 + per year. I can also see a few White guys in California and New Jersey scooping these up as well.The old school version of this car has a cult following; mostly those aforementioned White guys I talked about. So yeah Ford will probably part with 30,000-75,000 of these during the 2010-2015 5 year life cycle. That depends on many factors Economy, Gas Prices, etc....
— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 5:24:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6
What dose race have to do with anything?— upwards (View Profile)
What dose race have to do with anything?
Posted on 6/20/2009 8:47:50 AM | | Votes: 7
upwards, To some people pointing out race is a way to degrade the vehicle based upon that individuals stereotypes. Sad but true.— 91z4me (View Profile)
upwards, To some people pointing out race is a way to degrade the vehicle based upon that individuals stereotypes. Sad but true.
— 91z4me (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:21:57 AM | | Votes: 5
91z4me... I understand that i see that hyundia smokes comments are always including race. kind of small minded if you ask me.— upwards (View Profile)
91z4me... I understand that i see that hyundia smokes comments are always including race. kind of small minded if you ask me.
Posted on 6/20/2009 11:48:33 AM | | Votes: 3
Where did white guys come from? — inspirion7 (View Profile)
Where did white guys come from?
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:01:14 PM | | Votes: 0
Europe?— 91z4me (View Profile)
Europe?
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:52:50 PM | | Votes: 4
ha, ha. — inspirion7 (View Profile)
ha, ha.
Posted on 6/20/2009 5:04:44 PM | | Votes: 0
If the 0-60 on the 365hp Taurus SHO is 5.8 sec, that is a little disapointing...It's interesting that Ford compared it to the Audi A6 4.2 and not the new 3.0T. the 3.0T is quicker than the V8 and also has better mileage and better mileage than the SHO. — AlexTx (View Profile)
If the 0-60 on the 365hp Taurus SHO is 5.8 sec, that is a little disapointing...It's interesting that Ford compared it to the Audi A6 4.2 and not the new 3.0T. the 3.0T is quicker than the V8 and also has better mileage and better mileage than the SHO.
— AlexTx (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:36:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
The engine specs is where the comparison to Audi ends. They have 2 entirely different AWD systems. It's no wonder the Audi is quicker.You can't really characterize a car by 0-60 times. Look at the Chevy Cobalt SS Turbo. It's not exactly setting any 0-60mph records but, someone was able to push it to an 8:22 Nring time.— Bmw8ter (View Profile)
The engine specs is where the comparison to Audi ends. They have 2 entirely different AWD systems. It's no wonder the Audi is quicker.You can't really characterize a car by 0-60 times. Look at the Chevy Cobalt SS Turbo. It's not exactly setting any 0-60mph records but, someone was able to push it to an 8:22 Nring time.
— Bmw8ter (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 11:32:35 AM | | Votes: -2
I don't get it, they should have called it the "Frugal Ford Oil Tanker that's not faster then 5.8 seconds to 60!" — pennfootball (View Profile)
I don't get it, they should have called it the "Frugal Ford Oil Tanker that's not faster then 5.8 seconds to 60!"
— pennfootball (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:36:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8
At the end of the Day this is JUST A RENTAL CAR— pennfootball (View Profile)
At the end of the Day this is JUST A RENTAL CAR
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:37:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8
sorry not many rentals with 365 hp— upwards (View Profile)
sorry not many rentals with 365 hp
Posted on 6/20/2009 11:50:32 AM | | Votes: 7
Just face it American cars are good no matter how much you try to nit-pic the new ford will be a class leader in the mid size class. lots of American haters on this site.— 1UAW (View Profile)
Just face it American cars are good no matter how much you try to nit-pic the new ford will be a class leader in the mid size class. lots of American haters on this site.
— 1UAW (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 12:03:34 PM | | Votes: 5
IF the car had the weak 3.0 Durtec engine with dumpy styling then you'd be right. But what Ford has done with this car is good, rental is not where this car is headed.— Camryman (View Profile)
IF the car had the weak 3.0 Durtec engine with dumpy styling then you'd be right. But what Ford has done with this car is good, rental is not where this car is headed.
— Camryman (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:51:34 PM | | Votes: 2
too bad pennfussball can only dream of renting a Ferrari, he will be luck if hertz decides to ever hand over the keys to a SHO— CarbonBlue (View Profile)
too bad pennfussball can only dream of renting a Ferrari, he will be luck if hertz decides to ever hand over the keys to a SHO
— CarbonBlue (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 9:39:59 AM | | Votes: 2
i would take this over the 300C any given day.— 1dott8 (View Profile)
i would take this over the 300C any given day.
— 1dott8 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 11:17:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8
i would take it over the 300c as well or any other american sedan, but the taurus is priced right above the G37 and TL. tough cars to compete with — KZ258 (View Profile)
i would take it over the 300c as well or any other american sedan, but the taurus is priced right above the G37 and TL. tough cars to compete with
— KZ258 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/22/2009 3:53:48 AM | | Votes: 2
me too— B7FAN (View Profile)
me too
— B7FAN (View Profile)
Posted on 6/23/2009 7:39:19 AM | | Votes: 1
I'd take it over the 300 as well.— LuxuryFan (View Profile)
I'd take it over the 300 as well.
— LuxuryFan (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 2:44:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
I would take a 300C over all of them. Its better looking Better riding and handeling in fact I would get the SRT and watch all of ya in the rear view mirror IN STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
I would take a 300C over all of them. Its better looking Better riding and handeling in fact I would get the SRT and watch all of ya in the rear view mirror IN STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!
— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:16:51 PM | | Votes: -7
And don't care what any of u think— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
And don't care what any of u think
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:17:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7
Then I would put a paxton supercharger on that SRT Chrysler 6.1 Hemi to the toon of @ 700hp and really have fun. You can all fumble around with your BMW Lexis and Audis. And to answer the question YES people would pay 37K for a hot rod SHO That what car guys do. I like It.— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
Then I would put a paxton supercharger on that SRT Chrysler 6.1 Hemi to the toon of @ 700hp and really have fun. You can all fumble around with your BMW Lexis and Audis. And to answer the question YES people would pay 37K for a hot rod SHO That what car guys do. I like It.
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:25:59 PM | | Votes: -4
it's tune not toon, you tard— GeorgeWJoke (View Profile)
it's tune not toon, you tard
— GeorgeWJoke (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 12:00:00 AM | | Votes: 3
toon tune big deal— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
toon tune big deal
Posted on 6/21/2009 12:19:41 AM | | Votes: -2
Given the performance, style of this vehicle. I think people would buy it at 37K. For those who want the style minus the turbo will buy the lower trims and pay less. Good job Ford! And this is coming from someone who thought I would never praise a domestic make. The Fusion and now the Taurus shows Ford is heading in a good direction. IF these cars show they are reliable then I could be swayed. — Camryman (View Profile)
Given the performance, style of this vehicle. I think people would buy it at 37K. For those who want the style minus the turbo will buy the lower trims and pay less. Good job Ford! And this is coming from someone who thought I would never praise a domestic make. The Fusion and now the Taurus shows Ford is heading in a good direction. IF these cars show they are reliable then I could be swayed.
Posted on 6/20/2009 4:47:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
You trust CR what a joke, also the honda ant camry has all the style of a brown papper bag.— 1UAW (View Profile)
You trust CR what a joke, also the honda ant camry has all the style of a brown papper bag.
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:29:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
And Camry and Accord are better looking, and better resale, .........and if you want performance, get a real car with a real transmission. The Accord Coupe V6 with the 6 speed MANUAL.— Invisible (View Profile)
And Camry and Accord are better looking, and better resale, .........and if you want performance, get a real car with a real transmission. The Accord Coupe V6 with the 6 speed MANUAL.
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:21:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5
invisabile.....Man are your anti-american commente weak. just save face and credabilty while you can.— 1UAW (View Profile)
invisabile.....Man are your anti-american commente weak. just save face and credabilty while you can.
Posted on 6/21/2009 4:35:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1
Why not, some are willing to pay $42,000CDN for a Sega Genesis but you won't be scratching your head trying to figure out who makes the Taurus.Although the interior quality of the Taurus SHO doesn't look upscale, it doesn't look cheap and its definitely distinct compared to Hyundai's me-too designs.— huu76 (View Profile)
Why not, some are willing to pay $42,000CDN for a Sega Genesis but you won't be scratching your head trying to figure out who makes the Taurus.Although the interior quality of the Taurus SHO doesn't look upscale, it doesn't look cheap and its definitely distinct compared to Hyundai's me-too designs.
— huu76 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 5:10:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
American's = Americans. Yes Agent001, most Americans are illiterate, but hosting a website such as this one, you should learn the difference between plural and possessive forms.— koobah (View Profile)
American's = Americans. Yes Agent001, most Americans are illiterate, but hosting a website such as this one, you should learn the difference between plural and possessive forms.
— koobah (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 5:11:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4
Upwards and 91z4me, Iam just pointing out the predominant demographic that will buy this car. Most of the buyers for this car are going to be 40-50 year old white guys in Middle America (Midwest and Down South) that make $50K + a year with a few on the coasts, and I would bet good money on that. Whats wrong with that? I dont see a problem with that, Iam just pointing out the possible demographic. I cant imagine other groups of people buying this car in the same numbers as this demographic would.Women wouldnt buy it, nor would a lot of minority groups. Its too Ostentatious and not praticial enough. Its too hip for old 60+ white guys, and not hip enough for younger than 40 white guys. I was just adding a little sociological context to this car. Yes, cars have sociological context to them. Not just on price, but on style, features, practicality, value for money, etc...Thats my point.However, I do see, other groups buying the 4 cyl, and 6 cyl Tauruses. With the 4 cyl being a very popular model. — HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Upwards and 91z4me, Iam just pointing out the predominant demographic that will buy this car. Most of the buyers for this car are going to be 40-50 year old white guys in Middle America (Midwest and Down South) that make $50K + a year with a few on the coasts, and I would bet good money on that. Whats wrong with that? I dont see a problem with that, Iam just pointing out the possible demographic. I cant imagine other groups of people buying this car in the same numbers as this demographic would.Women wouldnt buy it, nor would a lot of minority groups. Its too Ostentatious and not praticial enough. Its too hip for old 60+ white guys, and not hip enough for younger than 40 white guys. I was just adding a little sociological context to this car. Yes, cars have sociological context to them. Not just on price, but on style, features, practicality, value for money, etc...Thats my point.However, I do see, other groups buying the 4 cyl, and 6 cyl Tauruses. With the 4 cyl being a very popular model.
Posted on 6/20/2009 7:00:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5
I must say you are right that some cars are targeted at a certian buying demagrphic but upwards and 91z4me are pointing out the fact that no one on this site uses race as much as you i personaly have red many of our racsist comments about whites and southern whites and find it very childish. — 1UAW (View Profile)
I must say you are right that some cars are targeted at a certian buying demagrphic but upwards and 91z4me are pointing out the fact that no one on this site uses race as much as you i personaly have red many of our racsist comments about whites and southern whites and find it very childish.
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:35:13 PM | | Votes: 5
The same is said in Car Company Board rooms, Iam just being realistic while you guys are living in a dream world.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
The same is said in Car Company Board rooms, Iam just being realistic while you guys are living in a dream world.
Posted on 6/20/2009 7:02:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5
Its fun to drive in the Snow, and RWD is useless in snow. Up here many RWD cars like 450 HP Mustangs end up in the snowbanks in winter, while little FWD 100 Horsepower subcompacts pass them and the drivers shake their heads while passing them. The 100s of New Mustangs that ended up in smowbanks this winter made me very skeptical about Ford Products. In a snow or ice storm this brutal winter, every Mile had a problem, and a Ford or some other RWD vehicle was the culprit. I drove an RWD vehicle for work this winter also. After this winter I believe that RWd should be made illegal.Ford Should AWD this, and Hyundai should AWD the Genesis.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Its fun to drive in the Snow, and RWD is useless in snow. Up here many RWD cars like 450 HP Mustangs end up in the snowbanks in winter, while little FWD 100 Horsepower subcompacts pass them and the drivers shake their heads while passing them. The 100s of New Mustangs that ended up in smowbanks this winter made me very skeptical about Ford Products. In a snow or ice storm this brutal winter, every Mile had a problem, and a Ford or some other RWD vehicle was the culprit. I drove an RWD vehicle for work this winter also. After this winter I believe that RWd should be made illegal.Ford Should AWD this, and Hyundai should AWD the Genesis.
Posted on 6/20/2009 7:25:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
agian you are correct as, my a STS 330hp rwd car stays at home in the winter while the 1999 devile (yea its ten years old and still runs like its new) fwd is the choice for winter. Every dont live in Cali, and many times when the snow is high awd cars dont get and that is why the suv has been king for many years and cali's dont need them so they hate them but they are a god send in Michigan.— 1UAW (View Profile)
agian you are correct as, my a STS 330hp rwd car stays at home in the winter while the 1999 devile (yea its ten years old and still runs like its new) fwd is the choice for winter. Every dont live in Cali, and many times when the snow is high awd cars dont get and that is why the suv has been king for many years and cali's dont need them so they hate them but they are a god send in Michigan.
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:40:35 PM | | Votes: 2
RWD=unsafe at any speed.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
RWD=unsafe at any speed.
Posted on 6/20/2009 7:32:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
Fun in the summer put it away for the winter and heavy rain our you will kill yourself.— 1UAW (View Profile)
Fun in the summer put it away for the winter and heavy rain our you will kill yourself.
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:42:25 PM | | Votes: 2
you are just proving that you and the other people who end up in the now banks are not real drivers. yes, rwd is a lot harder to drive than fwd and awd in snow and ice but it is possible if you know what you're doing.— 1dott8 (View Profile)
you are just proving that you and the other people who end up in the now banks are not real drivers. yes, rwd is a lot harder to drive than fwd and awd in snow and ice but it is possible if you know what you're doing.
Posted on 6/21/2009 11:13:08 AM | | Votes: 0
RWD are just as safe as any, it simply requires a more skilled driver. RWD cars aren't made for everybody— krautN1nja (View Profile)
RWD are just as safe as any, it simply requires a more skilled driver. RWD cars aren't made for everybody
— krautN1nja (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 12:31:19 PM | | Votes: -1
I agree.....krautN1nja.....I would do a RWD any day over a FWD. FWD is for the people with no driving experience and they want to feel safe and drive better in the snow and all that good stuff.RWD you get a much better performing car from turning radius, better cornering, better response time in emergency situations but again RWD is not made for everybody so stick with what you know. For someone to say that RWD is not made for the snow is a bunch of crap because up in NY i always see a mercedes or a BMW fly by me on the highway in the rain or snow and when it rains or snowsI see a lot of accidents with FWD cars than RWD cars Now to stick to the article 37 grand for this car is about right. I think people who have been waiting for this car to SHO its face again will be willing to finance that with no problem. I would love to test drive one i think it is the right price — B7FAN (View Profile)
I agree.....krautN1nja.....I would do a RWD any day over a FWD. FWD is for the people with no driving experience and they want to feel safe and drive better in the snow and all that good stuff.RWD you get a much better performing car from turning radius, better cornering, better response time in emergency situations but again RWD is not made for everybody so stick with what you know. For someone to say that RWD is not made for the snow is a bunch of crap because up in NY i always see a mercedes or a BMW fly by me on the highway in the rain or snow and when it rains or snowsI see a lot of accidents with FWD cars than RWD cars Now to stick to the article 37 grand for this car is about right. I think people who have been waiting for this car to SHO its face again will be willing to finance that with no problem. I would love to test drive one i think it is the right price
Posted on 6/22/2009 7:45:29 AM | | Votes: -1
Its not childish, nor racist. Iam only pointing out fact. LMAO!!!— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Its not childish, nor racist. Iam only pointing out fact. LMAO!!!
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:38:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3
just use more tact.— 1UAW (View Profile)
just use more tact.
Posted on 6/20/2009 9:41:19 PM | | Votes: 2
no youre just a moron. go praise the RWD genesis coupe but trash this american car. get out of this forum if u dont like it— GeorgeWJoke (View Profile)
no youre just a moron. go praise the RWD genesis coupe but trash this american car. get out of this forum if u dont like it
Posted on 6/20/2009 11:56:54 PM | | Votes: 0
I'm sorry, this car is ugly. The performance is impressive, but the interior and exterior is horrific.— snatchandgrab (View Profile)
I'm sorry, this car is ugly. The performance is impressive, but the interior and exterior is horrific.
— snatchandgrab (View Profile)
Posted on 6/20/2009 10:45:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1
Oh Stop GWB, go chill somewhere.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Oh Stop GWB, go chill somewhere.
Posted on 6/21/2009 2:58:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
the beauty in audi is that they dont aspire to be BMW or Benz, thats why they have done so well in recent years— krautN1nja (View Profile)
the beauty in audi is that they dont aspire to be BMW or Benz, thats why they have done so well in recent years
Posted on 6/21/2009 12:24:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6
But anywho in reference to this car. Would people pay 37 k for a souped up taurus? YES! would i personally...not a chance. The specs are great and if this is anything like the past SHO, than it will live up to compete with like minded cars. Just at this price point i personally am lookin for a totally different kinda car im lookin for refinement and somethin i can stomach sitting in as an everday driver, and tho ford has come along way, their interiors leave something to be desired , and though i'll have to wait to drive one myself to pass real judgement, from almost EVERY review i have read these things are powerful indeed but handle like a boat— krautN1nja (View Profile)
But anywho in reference to this car. Would people pay 37 k for a souped up taurus? YES! would i personally...not a chance. The specs are great and if this is anything like the past SHO, than it will live up to compete with like minded cars. Just at this price point i personally am lookin for a totally different kinda car im lookin for refinement and somethin i can stomach sitting in as an everday driver, and tho ford has come along way, their interiors leave something to be desired , and though i'll have to wait to drive one myself to pass real judgement, from almost EVERY review i have read these things are powerful indeed but handle like a boat
Posted on 6/21/2009 12:28:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
With the old reputation of the previous Taurus models (including SHO) in terms of reliability issues, WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO SPEND MONEY (37k) IN THIS CRAP? It may have a trillion of horsepower, and sleek looks, but that Taurus label is not for me. Thanks, but NO THANKS.— auronsicero (View Profile)
With the old reputation of the previous Taurus models (including SHO) in terms of reliability issues, WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO SPEND MONEY (37k) IN THIS CRAP? It may have a trillion of horsepower, and sleek looks, but that Taurus label is not for me. Thanks, but NO THANKS.
— auronsicero (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 2:13:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
The only time you see this twit "UAW1" on blogs if someone doesn't buy into his propoganda about American made vehicles being so great.....or if his UAW kronies had "nothing" to do with the Big 3 faltering. It was all management's fault. He'll tell everyone the union had nothing to do with the position these companies are in - you built "crap" so long that when a possible good car comes out like this, people are leary about it. UAW1 the fool!!!— gkearns56 (View Profile)
The only time you see this twit "UAW1" on blogs if someone doesn't buy into his propoganda about American made vehicles being so great.....or if his UAW kronies had "nothing" to do with the Big 3 faltering. It was all management's fault. He'll tell everyone the union had nothing to do with the position these companies are in - you built "crap" so long that when a possible good car comes out like this, people are leary about it. UAW1 the fool!!!
— gkearns56 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 3:19:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Stay off the drugs kid no one brought up politcs or the UAW we are talking about a car.— 1UAW (View Profile)
Stay off the drugs kid no one brought up politcs or the UAW we are talking about a car.
Posted on 6/21/2009 9:28:59 PM | | Votes: -2
gkearns56Actualy UAW has a lot of very interesting and well thought of points. so your anti UAW rant is just a distraction of how well this American car is designed.— upwards (View Profile)
gkearns56Actualy UAW has a lot of very interesting and well thought of points. so your anti UAW rant is just a distraction of how well this American car is designed.
Posted on 6/21/2009 9:42:26 PM | | Votes: 0
UAW1...There is no mention of politics you fool. My brother worked for Ford Motor Company for 32 years so I think I know a little about some of the Ford product line. Read your own comments again in previous blogs; you'll see your comments are always skewed toward anti-management or how your union clowns always built a great car. You're such a wind bag, you don't even remember half the bull crap you blog about. I never said anything negative about the Taurus being a bad car, but just that people may be leary because of past experiences. But I forgot those previous Pontiac Aztecs, Chrysler Sebring and the rest of those body cladding vehicles you built should make us all excited about purchasing another domestic car. — gkearns56 (View Profile)
UAW1...There is no mention of politics you fool. My brother worked for Ford Motor Company for 32 years so I think I know a little about some of the Ford product line. Read your own comments again in previous blogs; you'll see your comments are always skewed toward anti-management or how your union clowns always built a great car. You're such a wind bag, you don't even remember half the bull crap you blog about. I never said anything negative about the Taurus being a bad car, but just that people may be leary because of past experiences. But I forgot those previous Pontiac Aztecs, Chrysler Sebring and the rest of those body cladding vehicles you built should make us all excited about purchasing another domestic car.
Posted on 6/22/2009 7:05:26 AM | | Votes: 0
Your brother worked for Ford you didnt,I currently do work for GM and GM has not made an Aztec or had a body clad design in over a decade. Loose the bitterness man all the automakers had there share of bad cars/designs etc. — 1UAW (View Profile)
Your brother worked for Ford you didnt,I currently do work for GM and GM has not made an Aztec or had a body clad design in over a decade. Loose the bitterness man all the automakers had there share of bad cars/designs etc.
Posted on 6/22/2009 9:17:45 AM | | Votes: -1
auronsicero, you know damm well that Ford will have an ultra value Taurus that costs $19,000 or something with the $37,000 SHO as the top of the line model. Ford is probably trying a 2 tier (Non Luxury, and Near Luxury) strategy on this car.Non Luxury:Compete with: Nissan Maxima, KIA Amanti, Toyota Venza, Chevy Malibu. Near Luxury:Compete with: Hyundai Azera, VW Passat CC, Buick La Crosse.Everybody talks about this car competing with Accord, Optima, Malibu, and Camry, but those cars are a size (D-Segment) smaller than the E-SEGMENT TAURUS. The Fusion is the car that Ford makes to Compete with your D Segment family sedans, because the Fusion is a D-SEGMENT CAR!!!!!— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
auronsicero, you know damm well that Ford will have an ultra value Taurus that costs $19,000 or something with the $37,000 SHO as the top of the line model. Ford is probably trying a 2 tier (Non Luxury, and Near Luxury) strategy on this car.Non Luxury:Compete with: Nissan Maxima, KIA Amanti, Toyota Venza, Chevy Malibu. Near Luxury:Compete with: Hyundai Azera, VW Passat CC, Buick La Crosse.Everybody talks about this car competing with Accord, Optima, Malibu, and Camry, but those cars are a size (D-Segment) smaller than the E-SEGMENT TAURUS. The Fusion is the car that Ford makes to Compete with your D Segment family sedans, because the Fusion is a D-SEGMENT CAR!!!!!
Posted on 6/21/2009 4:11:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
that would be the toyota avalon it battles with...not the venza— krautN1nja (View Profile)
that would be the toyota avalon it battles with...not the venza
Posted on 6/21/2009 4:22:38 PM | | Votes: 5
Sorry not Mailbu, its Impala.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Sorry not Mailbu, its Impala.
Posted on 6/21/2009 4:13:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
The Venza is the Avalon's replacement, as Toyota is trying to rid its inventory of Avalons before they discontinue it.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
The Venza is the Avalon's replacement, as Toyota is trying to rid its inventory of Avalons before they discontinue it.
Posted on 6/21/2009 7:43:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Uh, it looks like the box the competition comes in. $37.5k for that. It's not that important to me that it goes fast. I want to enjoy the experience of driving.— macbjg (View Profile)
Uh, it looks like the box the competition comes in. $37.5k for that. It's not that important to me that it goes fast. I want to enjoy the experience of driving.
— macbjg (View Profile)
Posted on 6/21/2009 11:05:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
I like! Keep up the good work ford. Although the V6 engine in this SHO isn't the gem that that last V6 was, this car is still very nice.— LexSucks (View Profile)
I like! Keep up the good work ford. Although the V6 engine in this SHO isn't the gem that that last V6 was, this car is still very nice.
— LexSucks (View Profile)
Posted on 6/22/2009 1:50:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0
When I think buying a car over 30k, I just think Lexus, BMW, and beyond.We the people who know about resale value, just think that way. American brands =/= resale valueIf Ford decided to start building good cars since yesterday, I'll give them 50 years until they build up enough reputation before I get one. Meanwhile, there much better cars than a SHO.You could just say whatever you want about this car. Nevertheless, I already know it won't sell not even as they predict it would. Never.Sorry guys, but that is how the law of trust works. One you lose it, its difficult to get it back. It's like infidelity, you wouldn't go back with an unfaithful woman. PERIOD.— auronsicero (View Profile)
When I think buying a car over 30k, I just think Lexus, BMW, and beyond.We the people who know about resale value, just think that way. American brands =/= resale valueIf Ford decided to start building good cars since yesterday, I'll give them 50 years until they build up enough reputation before I get one. Meanwhile, there much better cars than a SHO.You could just say whatever you want about this car. Nevertheless, I already know it won't sell not even as they predict it would. Never.Sorry guys, but that is how the law of trust works. One you lose it, its difficult to get it back. It's like infidelity, you wouldn't go back with an unfaithful woman. PERIOD.
Posted on 6/22/2009 2:57:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Meanwhile, there *** are *** much better cars than a SHO.— auronsicero (View Profile)
Meanwhile, there *** are *** much better cars than a SHO.
Posted on 6/22/2009 2:58:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Resale value that sinks like the Titanic, is something value conscious buyers like me look after. Iam considering getting a used KIA Amanti as a play car.— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)
Resale value that sinks like the Titanic, is something value conscious buyers like me look after. Iam considering getting a used KIA Amanti as a play car.
Posted on 6/22/2009 11:08:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
I would rather buy a Nissan 370z or a Ducati 1198 S + Ninja ZX6R for that much. The front looks like a next generation camry and the back is a sebring.— veyron1001 (View Profile)
I would rather buy a Nissan 370z or a Ducati 1198 S + Ninja ZX6R for that much. The front looks like a next generation camry and the back is a sebring.
— veyron1001 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/23/2009 9:54:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Only the fools will buy American cars, and allow the garbage "3" bankrupt our country.— Designer1 (View Profile)
Only the fools will buy American cars, and allow the garbage "3" bankrupt our country.
— Designer1 (View Profile)
Posted on 6/23/2009 2:33:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
The American "3" Did not bankrupt america. Obama IS.— bfghemicuda (View Profile)
The American "3" Did not bankrupt america. Obama IS.
Posted on 6/25/2009 10:48:52 AM | | Votes: -2
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