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2010 Porsche 911 Turbo sets a new record at Nurburgring

tryme submitted on 10/14/2009 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 9:08:09 PM

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As you may know already Porsche was, is and will be the ultimate sports car! Recently, the German manufacturer released the 2010 911 Turbo, a new version of the well-known vehicle fitted with a direct-injected 3.

8-litre engine capable to deliver 500 hp. The new 911 Turbo went to the Nurburgring race racetrack and what do you think? It simply smashed the record of its predecessor by 10 seconds, completing the German circuit in 7m 39sec.

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2010 Porsche 911 Turbo sets a new record at Nurburgring

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Porsche = ultimate sports car!

Enough said.
— agent507 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 4:25:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

GT-R = Super extra good excellent best ultimate sportscar.
— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 9:23:15 AM | | Votes: 0

its ok ppl. its only a matter of time till the GT-R beats it again
— KZ258 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 9:52:06 AM | | Votes: 0

Enough said. Porsche needs to come up w/ a mid-engined turbo car to get it back, though I highly doubted if VW would: "Show me the money!"
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:02:40 AM | | Votes: -1

"its ok ppl. its only a matter of time till the GT-R beats it again"

- Providing that the GT-R's tranmission lasts :-)
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:09:22 AM | | Votes: 0

"It simply smashed the record of its predecessor by 10 seconds, completing the German circuit in 7m 39sec. Still, the record is far away from the 7m 27.56sec of the Nissan GT-R."

Press the read button you idiots.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 12:03:29 PM | | Votes: 8

see. that is a what Porsche should have done when GT-R post new record last year, instead of doubting GT-R's credibility and make a fool out of themselves.
— ghosthunter (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:00:07 PM | | Votes: 2

The last one ran the ring in 7:39 according to most sources, so a 10 sec improvement would bring that time to 7:29 not 7:38! I don't get it!
You still have to respect Nissan for making a comparable car and selling it half the price... Oh wait they're actually losing money on every GT-R they sell because they sell it for less than it actually costs. They're apparently integrating the deficit into their marketing budget. If you take into account the fact that Porsche makes too much money on their cars, being the most profitable manufacturer, bare none, I'd say that in a normal situation they would have more comparable pricing.
— nvme (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:38:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

You are right. The time for the 2009 911 Turbo is 7:38 seconds. So if it's 10 seconds faster it would be 7:28. Nice accomplishment. All the Porsche's tested professionally have recorded awesome times and Porsches are all over the board on the top of the charts. The GT-R has done great times as well with obviously different skilled drivers as it's very apparent.
— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:58:24 AM | | Votes: 2

"...If you take into account the fact that Porsche makes too much money on their cars, being the most profitable manufacturer, bare none"

Ummm, are we simply ignoring their failed takeover bid or recently facing bankruptcy?

— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 9:29:54 AM | | Votes: 3

Here is what Autocar says: "Porsche has timed both cars around the infamous ‘Ring and found the improvements knocked 10sec off the outgoing car’s 7m 49sec lap."
— tryme (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:00:22 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Those "new" front and rear bumper change and a few extra HP really made a drastic performance gains. Perhaps AUTOCAR should stop quoting Porsche time and do their won test?
— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 9:28:53 AM | | Votes: 1

anybody know what Autocar's lap time for the GTR is?
— pcar4evr (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:28:11 PM | | Votes: 1

I thought Porsche fans said it was impossible to be that much better.
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 10:19:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I don't always agree with you, but on this one, you nailed the fanboys... LMFAO!!!
— nvme (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:48:13 AM | | Votes: 1

It's Porsche, not the fanboys who said that.
— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 3:26:44 PM | | Votes: 1

Ok I like Porsche...granted the Cayman S with a limited slip and 19 inch wheels will out handle a 911 Turbo.
My Suggested improvements to Turbo...
More aggressive front air dame
Dual moved more front Li-Ion batteries up front to improve weight Distribution
Make Paddle Shifters Standard
Make rear assembly of car out of aluminum like a reverse Audi TT
Use an active spoiler controlling airflow of the front of the car reducing lift/float at higher speeds.
Full Sized Spare tire will improve weight distribution to front with jack.
Ditch rear seats and have the back pop open like it can in the targa and cayman and use that as storage to offset full sized front tire taking up front trunk, make assembly aluminum.
Add lighter weight titanium springs for suspension
Lengthen wheelbase 2-3 inches for better high speed stability
Widen Front track matching GT3 RS dimensions with fatter 245MM front tires.
Then you will ahve a proper Freakin turbo for 135,000 bucks!

— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:56:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

fortunately, you're not a Porsche engineer
— pcar4evr (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:15:49 PM | | Votes: 2

If I was a Porsche engineer with freedom to do whatever I want to redesign the 911 this is what I would do. I would pull out the carpet rear seats. Move the engine forward thus keeping the weight of the car the same without heavy counter weights that increase the polar moment of inertia of the car... (polar moment reduces the cars response time and makes the vehicle feel sluggish/heavy).

Redo the headlights, bring over Audi led's and make slit styled lights and hopefully remove that ugly frog face. (this isn't so much of an engineering feat however as it is a personal taste thing).

To the under body I would create an air diffuser path allowing for increased down force without the addition of ugly fixed wings or expensive variable geometry wings.

For the suspension I would revolutionize motor sports by incorporating small hydraulic cylinders to actively control suspension (9 cylinders to control ride height, cross weights, camber, caster, and to a small degree track width). With these, anti roll bars could be ditched to help counter the weight increases.

For the engine I would install a fuel economy knob on the dashboard. Adjusting it will vary everything from timing, to fuel ratios, to turbine geometry. Allowing the car to achieve 30+ mpg when adjusted to fuel economy, and allow the car to get 550+ hp when performance is wanted.
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:45:07 PM | | Votes: 3

I never understood why the GT-R is even compared to the Porsche Turbo. The Turbo is almost "soft" for a Porsche and almost a "GT car". In my opinion the different variants of the Porsche GT3 are far more comparable to the GT-R.
— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:08:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

Because in NA form Porsche can never match the lap time of GT-R. Vice versa, GT-R can never match effect of throttle from NA engine on driving dynamic.

Solution: 9000 rpm engine from Ferrari, and LEXUS.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 3:36:13 PM | | Votes: 1

Plus Mazda, if they can finalize development of that wanker engine while surviving.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 3:38:48 PM | | Votes: 1

I don't know if this new turbo is faster around the 'ring than the GTR because the 7:39 time is Porsche's own time and the best that Porsche drivers could do with the GTR is in the high 7:40's. So until both cars are on the track at the same time with the same driver, it's apples and oranges. Whatever the real numbers for the cars are, I do know the Porsche will do its number reliably each time.
— pcar4evr (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I would take the Porsche 911 Turbo anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over the Nissan.

You people that choose the GT-R must keed, no?

It's like which watch do I choose, an IWC or a Citizen?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:23:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Sure. Enjoy your ride slowly.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 3:32:29 PM | | Votes: 1

Race any 911 against a GT-R around the 'Ring for 12 hours straight with only stops for refueling and I'm pretty certain the GT-R will start falling apart before the last lap. All 911's, not just the GT3, can be tracked without any problems and then driven home afterwards. Yes, the GT-R is quite an achievement for its price point, but this did not come for "free" (even though it is being sold at a loss), there were corners cut to get to this price point. The 911 on the other hand was manufactured to a standard not a price, so they build it "right". But if all you have is $70K-$80K, and want an "exotic", the GT-R is the way too go, however, not exactly a car you can use as an every day driver like a base 911 could be.
— quizz (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:25:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Dude you can't make race assumptions about quality since that is not scientific
— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 2:04:36 PM | | Votes: -3

Nice lap time, but the GT-R still reigns over it. Can't wait fort he Spec-V version!
— PerformanceGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:28:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

And what's wrong with my engineering? The other guy wants 9 hydrological servers controlling 4 shocks! lol
— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 2:05:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

to be fair, it's 9 per wheel and it's adjusting the geometry of both the upper and lower a-arms.
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 7:01:00 PM | | Votes: 1

Funny how this article is about Porsche- not Nissan. Yet we all know this is bait for the 911 vs. GTR war.

Both cars are awesome and we are fortunate to have both. That being said the new 911 will premiere before the next GTR and I would bet my first born it will whip some GTR ass.....
— BondMI6 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 2:53:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Only possible when it's above 570 hp.
911 has wrong engine location to start with. Porsche doesn't want to change it for the sake of making money. One day Porsche will come up with another line positioned over 911 to get it fixed and win it back from GT-R.
I'll stick to Cayman.
— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 3:45:56 PM | | Votes: 1

whip some GTR ass? For twice the price it better. For the people that say GTR loses money have no clue what they are saying. Every car maker loses money these days. But thankfully for the people that wanted to crack on Obama have him and his administration to thank for turning the stock markets around. Yeah Dow Jones closed above 10,000 for the first time in over a year. The GTR already beats the Porsche in lap times acceleration and roadholding in almost every comparison test. But somehow it's losing against the porsche? Ok, next topic.
— freshseth83 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 3:12:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

"The GTR already beats the Porsche in lap times acceleration and roadholding in almost every comparison test. But somehow it's losing against the porsche?"

- Maybe because Nissan voids the warranty the second the car is taken to a race track. Porsche doesn't do that crap. The Nissan is nice, but very frail.
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 4:55:56 PM | | Votes: 0

For twice the price you get a nice performing sports car with a badge filed with racing history and success. Let's be realistic here: someone who wants a Porsche WANTS a Porsche and is willing to pay for the badge.

Using your logic of pricing it is a downright shame that the cheaper GT-R whoops a Rolls Royce Phantom in performance...
— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:16:02 PM | | Votes: 1

The GT-R being sold less than what it actually costs has nothing to do with the economy. it's all about brand image and value to the customer. Very very few would have initially paid Porsche money for the GT-R simply because outside of the Skyline cult -quite scarce-, Nissan has nothing as far as supercars go. On the contrary, Porsche charges what it does to sell you the badge, as well as the car. This is not to say that Porsches are not excellent, but their badge is also worth a lot.
consider this; at a Porsche dealer, most people sign the order before even seeing the actual car they are buying, just like at Ferrari and Lamborghini and some others. At Nissan, in general, you test drive, you get the whole extensive works and then some kind of incentive, and then they nervously (hyperbole) wait for you to decide whether or not you want to buy!
— nvme (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 6:13:54 AM | | Votes: 2

I have a 997 Turbo, and i have an order placed for this new model.

If you all want to tell me i am stupid for doing so fine, but there really is no compromise, and despite what everyone here seems to think, its not ALL about how fast it drives around a track in a German forest.

How is this any different then the Hyundai Vs Lexus topic? Its the same logic, same principals, hell nearly same money. Would you rather own an Equis or a LS? I wouldnt own a Nissan just like i wouldnt own a Hyundai.
— Timzilla (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 6:27:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

why would anyone call you stupid? it's a great car. but so is the GT-R. and the days when people payed premium for a badge and prestige are pretty much over. in the future prestige and brand will be mostly irrelevant. the days of excess are coming to an end
— DinamoR (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 10:03:17 PM | | Votes: 0

Did anyone tell Nissans Godzilla yet about this?
— Type707 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/15/2009 9:11:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

DinamoR you must be retarded. If you think the days of excess are gone you must have no grasp of the world, or live in a Saskatchewan.

Prestige and branding will always be around, and honestly i think will become more prevalent. Just because the amount of moaning and crying you do is going up, it doesnt mean it is for anyone else. Stock market hit 10k yesterday, all those rich dudes who lost it all just gained it back, and people like me who invested very heavily have done pretty well. Get over it, stop whining all the time.
— Timzilla (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 10:49:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I have a movie that DumamoR will love - Capitalism by Michael Moore. You'll enjoy the "days of excess coming to an end" theme.

Unfortunately, in our capitalistic society there will be people like Timzilla and I who can afford Porsches and choose to drive the best. Even in a socialistic society, not all can drive Porsches, that's why the GTR exists for the downtrodden peasants.
— pcar4evr (View Profile)

Posted on 10/16/2009 2:51:20 PM | | Votes: -1

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