Audi trumps Ferrari and Lamborghini? Is this the most beautiful car in the world?

well, I don't know about the most beautiful car in the world, but it is beautiful alright. Some aspect of the styling needs some time to get used to it, but nonetheless, R8 is still impressive.
I still think the Bugatti Veyron is the most beautiful car in the world. Gorgeous looking car with a mammoth 1000 HP! A truly potent combinations, you just cannot ask for something more..

— sulev (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:29:54 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Definately beautiful but not Ferrari.

— tcatnat (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:00:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Beautiful but it will never be a Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, or Mercedes SLR. It is stunning though but it doesn't have that supercar look to it. The engine is placed in it's back like its competitors but something about it makes it seem too practical to be a supercar. It's like an SL. Ultra-luxury coupe's. But short on the luxury. I don't know what to say about this.

It looks superb but i'm not sure about it being a supercar or the most beautiful car in the world. I love Audi's, BMW's, and Mercedes but for this exotic supercar would not be the right title IMO.

I'm lost for words. I don't know how to comment on this. When I find the right words i will post again. =)

Once again.. very nice car.. i like it..

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:06:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The most beautiful!?! I don't thing so. Actually the beauty is very personal thing, but for me the most beautiful could be for example Alfa Romeo 8c Competizione Spider or why not Alf 159 !?!
But it's very muscul and nice!!!

— OBSERVER1984 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:36:50 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

AUDI OUT DID THEM SELVES WITH THE DETAIL, LOOK AT THE TAIL LIGHTS THEIR LIKE WHOHH!!!!!! BUT THE MOST BUTIFUL CAR IS STILL THE F430.

— ATLFALCONFAN (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 8:12:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

It is a great looking car but the design is nowhere near making it the "most beautiful car in the world".

Specifically the side profile seems unbalanced. The passenger compartment seems too tall and out of proportion with a very low nose; the interior is too dark and ordinary for the exterior.

Overall, the exterior design has many individual features that are interesting but the car seems to be decorated rather than designed.

Not a bad effort overall though and well done Audi for having to guts to go through with the concept.

— shiftright (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:11:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Not the most beautiful, but up there with the best of them. However, i hop the license plate is not going to be placed smack dab on the front grill that way, it detracts from the beauty of the car. Very beautiful, i pray BMW responds to this kind of design with an offering of their own. Don't know about ferrari, but i'll take this over the SLR

— spiritfilled (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:11:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

The front end to me seems to be a TT fascia on steroids. But the rearend and interior are absolutley gorgeous! And I don't know if I've everseen a prettier engine compartment! R8 A+

— vin1 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:26:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Most beautiful car in the world? I don't know about that, and I'm probably one of the biggest Audi fanatics on this website. The design does rank among the best though, that is certainly true.

The rear end looks muscular, the front looks mean and ready to attack on a prowl.

The interior lives up to Audi's impressive standard.

Agent63, your comments are exactly what the R8 was designed to be. The R8 was designed to be an everday supercar.

That's right a practical supercar. The V8 will be pretty damn powerful. 0-62 in 4.0 seconds flat is entirely possible. That is fast, but not in true supercar territory.

If you want a TRUE everyday SUPERCAR, wait for the V10 R8 with another 80 horsepower and the ability to clock a 0-60 time in the 3.6-3.8 second range.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:37:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Beautiful car....too bad it's an Audi.

Just kidding!

— Loki (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:40:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Logical you are not logical at all.

(I'm having fun with the reply button)

— mstangpny07 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 7:53:21 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Glad you like the new feature :)

— Agent004 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 1:19:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Nice looking car - but I don't see how it aligns with Audi's brand 'DNA'. I predict it will struggle and be cancelled just like the VW Phaeton did.

Perhaps it would do well if it was priced like the Cayman/Boxter ($US50K range) but at about $US100+ out the dealership door - not many people will care.

It will be a shame b/c it looks like a nice product. I don't buy the argument that b/c it underprices Ferrari's and Lambo's that people will buy it. I think anybody spending over $80-100 on a vanity sports car purchase are not the price sensitive.

I hope I'm wrong b/c it looks like a nice car.

— nybimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:46:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Logical, great issues..... we know you like it, you've already admitted that.

Your issues won't stop prospective super-car buyers from buying it, nor will it stop people from snapping their heads to looks at it and be amazed when the interlocking rings are sitting their flush on the rear.

You think it will cancelled nybimmer????

Why?

Name me one other car besides the Z06 for under $100K that has the performance and not to mention the looks of this car.....

Honestly, I highly doubt the Z06 will take sales out of the R8.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:00:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Only 3 issues with the V10 version of this car:

1. It will be faster than any BMW product straight-line

2. It will be faster than any BMW product track

3. It tends to catch your eye a bit more than any BMW

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:04:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

i was never an audi fan but this looks like it has great potential to give porsche, ferrari, lambo, not to mention benz or bmw something to worry about...but probably audi had their target of competition set more on porsche, corvette, and the new nissan gtr...either way time will tell what the r8 has to prove..

— FLIGUY81 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:22:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Nothing top the exotic flavor like the Zonda.

— Brembo (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:43:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

this is way better than any other manufacturer can offer for the money. this is like above the 911 imo. i hope it will fly out the door, we need more everyday supercars!

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:43:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I don't like how the front headlights meet the grill underneath it, the way the curvy headlights meet a grill that has straight lines. And the side view looks kinda plain also. Ferrari & Lambo still beat it in design! But if it's priced more in the range of Porsche or Corvette then I think it's worth the money.

— mkk21 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:55:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

It`s one thing to have a supercar, but can they hold their value, especially an Audi? Don`t think so, my choice would still be the BMW M6. It might be faster than or equal to the M6 in the 0-60, but after that, it is an impressive picture in the M6 or even M5`s rear view mirror. Nice try Audi, but you still have to learn what BMW has forgotten.

One question, who invented quatro? And it`s not who you think.

— SpikeM5 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:05:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Definately looks great, a car in this class isn't supposed to be beautiful it does look very good.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:10:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Definitely gorgeous. It's a work of art from Audi.

— BM3W (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:31:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Good 1st attempt by Audi in this category. 'Most beautiful in the world' does not come to mind but I do think that for the most part it is striking. At $100+K I hope that Audi will be able to sell the R8 and that the resale value is better than the rest of the model range....otherwise this will make a great pre-owned purchase.

— SixxFive (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:39:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I think I just had an orgasm!

— Tracenet (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:50:06 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

No worries about resale...the car will be built in very, very small numbers every year and will do just fine.

— AlexTx (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:54:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Personally, I don't find the R8 attractive at all. I would have preferred the Nuvolari concept. Sorry Audi guys.

— BMW530i (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 12:19:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I am planning to steal it when i see it in paris... that is if my knees will be strong enough to hold me

— CarNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 12:30:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The question posed my the article...

"Is this the most beautiful car in the world?"

Simple...

NO... there are probably 20 better looking cars I could name off the top of my head.

— matt635 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 1:04:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

not the best looking car that is for a fact....but its an audi

what is beatiful about this car is the interior thats it............the exterior man i dont wanna say......

— watisthat (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 1:40:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The BMW M6 is heavier and not meant to be a true sports car, but rather a heavily sport oriented GT, therefore R8 is superior because it is and was meant to be a true sports car and not a luxury cruiser.

The V10 will definitely make up for the lack of performance of the V8 (if you want to call it that)

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:09:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

The BMW M6 is heavier and not meant to be a true sports car, but rather a heavily sport oriented GT, therefore R8 is superior because it is and was meant to be a true sports car and not a luxury cruiser.

The V10 will definitely make up for the lack of performance of the V8 (if you want to call it that)

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:10:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Logical can you say bye bye to M6 on the track with the R8 V8 and maybe even bye bye to it in a straight-line with the V8.

Can you say the M6 just got its ass handed to it with the R8 V10 on both the track and in a straight-line??

Say it, because the V10 will make it happen.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:13:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

rebadge a gallardo put a 4 ring symbol and it's the most beauitful car in world. How bias is that? I don't know a lot about audi's cars, but I think the company is all media hype and propaganda, this why I don't give that much respect. I like companies that earn respect over time like Ferrari, porsche, BMW, Mercedes.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:21:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Wow you could cut the jealousy in here with a knife!!!
Thanks Audi for creating this jewel for your crown....and to put all naysayers away,this vehicle will be produced in the 8000-10000 vehicles per year range out of the box.....Vorsprung Durch Technik!!!!

— phaetonmeister (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:29:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Its the best AUDI I have seen in a long time. coupled with Lamborgini, Bently and Bugatti DNA in it. I would buy it if i had the cash. What will the damage be in my pockets? Certainly no Ferrari, but I love it!

— KeyserSoze (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:35:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Its the best AUDI I have seen in a long time. coupled with Lamborgini, Bently and Bugatti DNA in it. I would buy it if i had the cash. What will the damage be in my pockets? Certainly no Ferrari, but I love it!

— KeyserSoze (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:36:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Yes it's beautiful...but imagine when someone comes up and asks if your 100,000 dollar Audi is the new TT, something that would never happen with an M6. Not bashing, I'd still probably take this over an M6 and I'm a big fan of BMW's. The side panel is gimmicky though and looks stupid...put the V12 diesel in this not the Q7.

— Autoegr525 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:54:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Well, Logical, Audi has an everyday car that also serves as a supercar.

There is no other car in the world that you can literally fly around a track with and go over a frozen sheet of ice with if you wanted to.

Audi has earned my respect over time. Most notably for their Audi Quattro. That car has been a basis for design for many companies such as BMW and many others.

I think the R8 will have an audi badge on the back and it is a symbol of just how good Lamborghini has become and the benefit from sharing parts and ideas between two companies such as Lamborghini and Audi.

Logical, you don't have to be jealous. You said already you liked the R8 previously.

BMW doesn't have an answer to the R8 that is for sure.

Larry, nobody says you have to give Audi any respect. There are many people who hate the brand just like there are many people that hate BMW.

Many Auto critics refer the German 3, they are referring to Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

If you or logical don't like Audi, it honestly doesn't matter. You are two guys who don't like Audi and are allowed to have your opinion and are free to post what you wish on a message board such as this.

Unfortunately, for you Audi has increased sales steadily and I have a feeling that many people will look at the R8 as it passes by, because it looks similar to a Lamborghini Gallardo as you pointed out Larry.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:56:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Certainly is not the most beautiful car in the world.

— Sauceboy01 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 2:57:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Logical, I have a tip for you. If you want to hate on Audi, I suggest you do something on a grander scale. You telling people here that Audi sucks and everything else that you say, won't have any effect at all on Audi's sales or their quality, or their cars.

If you want people to hate Audi the way you do I suggest you do something more, something that will let the world know that Audi is inferior to BMW and offer reasons to which there is no feasible response from the Audi lovers.

Say that RWD makes better sports cars than AWD, even though the 911 Turbo has AWD and is one of the greatest sports cars ever.

Say that Volkswagen can't engineer a bike if they had to when they influence the design of some of the world's most sought after brands such as Lamborghini and Bentley along with Bugatti.

Let people know that Bentley sucks and the guy that has $395,000 to burn on an Azure Mulliner is a complete idiot for doing so.

Say that the R8 is inferior because it has plebian roots. The roots specifically by themselves do not make cars bad. I could say a Rolls-Royce is bad because it has links to the "normal" consumer of BMW. No potential buyer of a Rolls-Royce would agree to not purchase a Rolls-Royce because it has links to BMW.

BMW is as every bit a plebian car company as Audi is. The consumers are average in their incomes, in their image and in their view by society.

Therefore based on your knowledge nobody that can buy a Lamborghini should buy one because the Gallardo has HVAC controls straight from an Audi which has a link to Volkswagen.

Why not forget about Bugatti to. A person is an absolute moron if they buy a Veyron that costs over $1 million because the car has links to Volkswagen right????


You don't make any sense. Why do you like Porsche but hate on Audi?

I think Audi needs something performance wise to set you straight and that is on the way with the R8 with a V10.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 3:05:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Logical, your anti-Audi mindset and propaganda isn't stopping buyers from buying Audi. Heck, for that matter it isn't stopping BMW buyers from switching over to Audi or vice-versa.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 3:07:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Nice looking car, however, if you watch the movie iRobot, it is very similar to that car w/o the wheel covers. Good design though, which many Audi's have. Need to work on reliability off the track and they'll have a winner!

— Buddyleez (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 3:18:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

For those who said that people won't spend $100k on an Audi, just got word from Audi of America that ALL allocation for both the S8 (starts at $92k) and the A8L W12 (starts at $119k) are ALL SOLD for the rest of the calender year....that means another 1 or 2 months delay in getting one.

— AlexTx (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 3:21:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

It's hot, but definitly not the most beautiful car in the world...Aston Martin makes those! The R8's cabin isn't as hot as I was hopping & neither is the exterior (I can't stand the two-tone color.

The V-8 version will cost the same as an M6 and will most likely be similiar in performance. However the M6 is already looking like the bigger bargain because of the simple fact, there's no compromise in luxury for performance.

Granted the R8 & M6 aren't direct competitors, but the M6 is the hotter overall car to own...You got the 500hp V-10 braging rights compared to V-8 420hp bragging rights, cockpit full of gadgets, & classic German design that gives the M6 a classy but muscular look when compared to the spaceship looking R8.

I wouldn't want to drop the money on this car and have to explain to an RS4 or future M3 owner why my $100,000.00 car is only pushing as much power as their's.

— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 4:09:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Why are people comparing this to the M6. If you want a 4 seat 500bhp grand tourer you'd by the M6. Use the phrase "everyday supercar" as much as you want, this is not a practical car.

Likewise, somebody who has no need for the practicality of four seats and loads of boot space, might see the M6 as a little pointless.

I don't suppose the R8 is going to steal that many sales from the M6 purely because they are not in the same market

— matt635 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 4:39:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

to alextx, it is not like audi sells a lot of A8's, audi only sells 300 to 400 A8's per month. Jaguar XJ out sells the Audi a8 in the US. so out of those 387 who brought a A8 in august maybe 3 or 4 are crazy enough to spend 100k on the VW phaneton like A8. In less than 24 months the w12/ s8 will be worth 20K.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 4:50:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

strange larry,
thats what bmw 7s and 6s do in the uk. drop like a stone. audis have always held their values better.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 4:58:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The M6 is looking like the bigger waste of money. The M6 is not an all-out sports car. It is a heavily sport oriented luxury gt.

The R8 will not compete with the M6 and the V10 version won't have any explaining to do.

The R8 V10 will be priced higher than the M6. It will be much faster and will feature the "cooler" V10.

Who wants an M6 when you can have a rocketship and Gallardo similar R8.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:00:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

jtgct

I'd argue about the R8's "most succesful race car" 'DNA'. Take for example BMW's 3 series. What you can buy in the showroom is a lot closer to what's won on track - and it's been winning things since the days of the E21 320 turbo's ... between the M3 and the 320, they've won most things over the years. They are alot closer to the production cars than you can buy than this is to the car that won at lemans a few times.

— matt635 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:05:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

GermanNut.. some of us have more than one friend to fit in the car.

— matt635 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:07:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The real competition will be the upcoming Nissan GT-R coupe. Surprised nobody mentioned it...

— fatherdsl (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:10:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

My bad, I see it was mentioned earlier. The point remains, based on its price, performance, and configuration, the Nissan GT-R and (to a lesser extent because of its back seat) the Porsche 911 Carrera 4S seem to be its target competition.

— fatherdsl (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:14:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

larry: Audi only sells 400 A8s a month because they cannot get more of them produced do to the high demand world wide.
If you speak of the A8's resale, did you see the one on the Jag?
It's even worse!!!
And to say that the A8 is like the Phaeton is just ignorant. Both cars feel completely different and are different!

— AlexTx (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:18:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The R8 is definately one of the most beautiful cars made. It has a classiness to it and not the in your face style of a Lamborghini.

I think Audi should have done a Model T on this thing though and made them all black. The car in silver looks great, but pales in comparison to its black counterpart.

— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:34:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

will,
you're being ignorant again, do you want a spade to dig your way out of that hole?

the a8 and phaeton aren't related. the a8 uses an ALUMINIUM space frame, the phaeton a STEEL monocoque, shared with the bentley continetal.
they have different transmissions, awd systems, engines, styling, interiors, chassis, well, everything.
to me, thats a different car.
and will, you're always banging on about how different the es is to a camry, because it "feels" different.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:36:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

This car only has 420hp but that's only part of the story. Audis have a magic feel that no other car has. It's that magic feel that makes Audi a better car even if it doesn't have the highest horsepower.

Argument sound familiar BMW losers?

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:40:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The SLR will smash this...

— 528i (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:55:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The way people throw around the word "magic" in here makes this place sound like a Harry Potter message board.

— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 5:59:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The SLR will smash this... at 4 times the price. Duh!

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:20:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The SLR looks like a wizard if oz witch mobile! sometimes it reminds me a batmobile from batman2 movie. very evil looking design.

— Parkinglot2 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:38:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The most beautiful car in the world? No. That title will belong to the Lexus LF-A whenever it arrives on the market. This car looks to be mishmash of various design elements brought together awkwardly, and doesnt possess the fluid, flowing design that can be seen in the LF-A.

— starfox (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:40:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

LF-A is nice but not much of a statement. Beautiful is a specific word and this car is beautiful. You can't say that about many cars (see: BMW).

— crackityjones (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 6:56:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Germannut:
Agent63, your comments are exactly what the R8 was designed to be. The R8 was designed to be an everday supercar.

That's right a practical supercar. The V8 will be pretty damn powerful. 0-62 in 4.0 seconds flat is entirely possible. That is fast, but not in true supercar territory.

If you want a TRUE everyday SUPERCAR, wait for the V10 R8 with another 80 horsepower and the ability to clock a 0-60 time in the 3.6-3.8 second range.

------------------------------------

I guess it's a supercar for the practical? Something like the 6series and SL? Same kind of practicality I assume. I never read up on this car.

Actually the 6series I feel isn't up to par with the SL. It's different in ways. First off, the luxury. Luxury GT car whereas 6series seems more sporty-oriented. BMW has always came short in Luxury but Mercedes has always came short in sportiness.

If that's the correct 0-60 then that's a quick V8.

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:12:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

logical-

"m6 better and more desireable."

No, not really. I can't think of one way in which it's better, except maybe the fact that it has rear seats, but who wants that in a sportscar?

Oh, I forgot. The M6 is a GT, not a sportscar, so therefore, it's not as desirable, either.

— S4cabriofox (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:17:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

starfox-

LF-A? Are you serious? There are 3 reasons why it won't be even close to looking as good as this thing:

1. The most obvious reason is that Lexus has no design expertise right now. They don't have much experience, and that's why. Their cars don't bring much excitement to the automotive world.

2. No one has seen any real pictures yet! I could just as easily call it the ugliest car in the world! It's onyl been seen covered in black tape and cladding!

3. From the spy shots I've seen, it doesn't bring anything new to the design of supercars. It might end up being another NSX clone.

— S4cabriofox (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:21:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Agent63-

Actually, I've read that the SL550 beats out the 650i/ci in both luxury and performance.

SL is quicker, has better handling, has a firmer and more composed ride (650 has been described as "Lexus-like" and "floaty", and has a nicer interior to boot.

— S4cabriofox (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:23:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

damn you logical! you started it again.

i must say though, this thing is funky lookin. kinda mean from the front, startin off good, and then you come around and look at the side profile and EEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!! it just looks awful from the side. it may be all its cracked up to be on track but its still gonna look ugly cruisin down pch. the m6 is much better lookin than this thing. wasn't this post about looks??

— halfpast3 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:30:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I see the old friends are at it again. Face it, it will definately match the M6 in acceleration, on the track, the RS4 arleady is quicker than the M6. In the looks department, the Audi wins, no questions asked. And a best in class interior just to finish out the package.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:34:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Hey Logical,

When are you going to start calling the R8 a rebadged Jetta?

— Neverfollow (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 7:50:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

this car KICKS ASSS.

— vitalichaconne (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:31:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

What does the M6 have to do with a car that actually looks great? Why do poseurs and various hangers-on who post here have to bring up their crap organization BMW every time something good in the automotive world comes along? The R8 is a car you could die in and feel like you truly lived. BMW's just make you want to shoot yourself.

— bmtrblu (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:55:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

to Alextx audi only sells 400 a8 because they cannot meet worldwide demand?? Who told you that?? That is such denial BS, audi only sells 400 a8 becuase it suxs, Mercedes S-class 2500+ a month, 7 series 1400 + a month, believe at the local VW/ audi dealships in south florida, plenty of A8's, in fact they lease them free to movie stars in a desperate marketing attempt.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 9:57:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Rupert, show me the facts, I know this BMW makes more cash than the whole VW group, check the company statement on google. BMW makes 3 times the profit of Audi, 20 billion euro more revenue than Audi per year. if i am wrong post it.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:04:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The Audi A8 outsells the 7 series in Germany, where people care about the quality of the car, and not how cool they think they look in it (mostly because of advertising created "coo" The is definately an awesome vehicle. No one has brought up any facts that contradict that.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:16:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

show me the facts, audi suxs

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:33:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

show me the facts????

What is this a numbers game??

The quality and levels of performance or luxury of a car are not judged by sales.

Sales and quality are inherently two seperate qualities.

I refue to believe the Maserati Quattroporte is less capable than a Mercedes S-class because it sells fewer cars.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:41:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Find me ONE, I'm only asking for ONE comparison test where an Audi A8 is defeated by a BMW 7-series.

Larry, find me it.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:42:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I want the most recent version of the 7-series and A8. Find me ONE article Logical or Larry where the 7-series DEFEATS the Audi A8.

All I want is one.

Until you find me that article, just because company a sells more of a certain car than company b sells of their respective competing model does not make the first company's car any better.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 10:46:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I can find an article, but what difference does it make you audi fans will come up with more denial. I just reminding you how much more successful BMW is and always will be.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:27:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I can find an article, but what difference does it make you audi fans will come up with more denial. I just reminding you how much more successful BMW is and always will be.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:27:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I can find an article, but what difference does it make you audi fans will come up with more denial. I just reminding you how much more successful BMW is and always will be.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:28:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Just find me it, and I might believe you Larry.

Larry, find me an article showing the BMW 7-series defeating the Audi A8(obviously the current models and body styles) and when you find the article, please post it.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:30:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Larry if you find the article, I will believe you.

You know my request and now please give me what I asked for.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:43:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Unlike Larry the Loser, I don't choose my cars based on what everyone else is buying. I'm independant enough to make my own educated decisions. This is exactly why I wouldn't want a cheap, worthless BMW (check out those interiors).

In July, the A8 won yet another German survey that found more people wanted an A8 than a 7 or S-class.

— AUDIMAN4 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2006 11:55:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Larry, please provide me with what I asked for. Thank you.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 12:07:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I'll take a twin turbo Supra over this whale looking car anyday!!!Simply Ugly!!

— 2JZSoarer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 12:10:59 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I would definately pick this over the M6.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 12:31:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Logical, no way is the M6 more desireable than this. I can think of at least one other heavily sport oriented luxury GT besides the M6. How about the Mercedes CLS55 AMG?? or even the CL55 AMG.

The only thing M6 drivers will be seeing is the tail lights of the R8 as it goes even with the M6 in straight-line acceleration and then slowly pulls away.

If the RS4 can match the M6 around the Nurburgring, the V8 R8 will surely defeat it and the V10 R8 will kick the M6's ass.

Buyers f the R8 are not looking for luxury anything. They are looking for a sports car and that is what they will get. The interior is still, typical Audi perfection, but the emphasis is clearly on sport-oriented rather than luxury.

I find it a great mix of both actually.

Finally a car from Audi that BMW or Mercedes have no price based competition.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 1:16:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Larry, please post my article that I asked for showing that the 7-series defeated the A8 in a comparison test. Thank you!

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 1:17:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Where in this post was the 7 series or A8 mentioned? You guys should start a new topic.

— bmtrblu (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 2:25:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Is it all about 0-60 time? What about 60-90 time? I think your R8 is going to be a reasonably good looking non performer, pretty much like the TT 3.2Dsg. If the build quality is anything like the RS4, I am definately not going to buy one. Buying a car is not just about living in the moment, what about backup service, or is that vehicle falling apart 2 years down the line? I think the current BMW and Merc Motorsport vehicles will far outlive any Audi that is due to be launched or available in the future, in memory and in build quality.

In my opinion, Audi still has to learn what BMW has forgotten, it`s not all about the 0-60 time only.

— SpikeM5 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 3:45:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

"Finally a car from Audi that BMW or Mercedes have no price based competition"

? People out there who actually buy these cars (rather than 14 year olds that just bithch about everything) buy a car to suit their needs first - then their budget second. When the E46 M3 GTR came out a couple of years ago (at a cost of 250k each), was that automatically the best car because it was the most expensive? And lets not forget it was highly exclusive too... and it was the road version of a car that won the 24h at Nürburgring twice.

You cannot compare this with cars like the M6 and the SL - they are not designed to compete - compare it with cars from lambo or ferrari - as in other 2 seat mid-engined sportscars (not 4 seat front engined/Rear wheel drive GT's)


If BMW ever get their arse in gear and launch the Z10 (or whatever they decide to call it) then that will probably be a better comparison - except when that happens (and the BMW is faster) you BMW haters will probably just say "yeah but BMW copied AUDI R8 - it came out first and the Z10 only won cos its newer" which is exactley the same argument we have with the M3 and RS4, that you audi people don't accept.. (100hp less, smaller engine, more fun and still nearly as fast)

— matt635 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 4:21:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Most beautiful car in the world? NO
But it's a very beautiful. Inside and out!

— AUDBMLEXMRC (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 6:11:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Larry, give me the article I've been asking for.

— GermanNut (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 2:43:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

2JZSoarer - 9/29/2006 12:10:59 AM0 Boost
I'll take a twin turbo Supra over this whale looking car anyday!!!Simply Ugly!!

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Welcome to the year 2006. Twin turbo Supra? I have nothing against tuned up Japanese cars but come on now. You would take a Supra over this car? IT's way out of the Supra's league. Supra was a great car IMO but that's the stone ages compared to this.


GermanNut - I agree with you. Surely this R8 will take out the M6. CLS55, CL55 are also desirable. Isn't there a CL65 and a CLS63 as well? I'm not too sure but great sports oriented GT's.

The R8 will be in the CL65 range I believe in price. Maybe less i'm not sure it's just a guess?. But yes, no doubt it will beat the M6.

Have they said officially which cars are it's competitors? Gallardo? F430? CL65? is that correct? or is it closer to the SL55/65, M6 area?

Also I wouldn't doubt an A8 beating the 7series since it looks less bulky. However it's got a longer sleek design. As for weight isn't the A8 much lighter as well?

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Honestly, i'm a fan of BMW but their interiors.. i never really liked. I guess it's their choice of materials. I like Mercedes, Lexus, and Audi. I'm more of a Merc fan than any but I must say Audi's fitting is superb and Lexus's ride is nice and quiet.

But compare an A4 to a C-class, A4 anyday. Audi's door's close nice and solid. The audi's doors shut with the sound of a thump not 'clunk'. lol

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 3:03:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Most beautiful car in the world, NOT!!! U kidding me that thing is straight uglyness defined. I'm not counting the performance part, cuz i dunno how good it can be, but the design just sucks

— Chronoseus (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 4:18:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

It is a great looking car, that's for sure.

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2006 7:29:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

beautiful? Hardly. An Aston is beautiful, the Alfa 8C is beautiful.

What this is, is a very interesting car. A great looking back and the awesome V10 from the Gallardo doesn't compensate for an unbalanced side profile, a fussy side detailing and a pinched nose.

I'm sure its a hoot to drive though. I've really enjoyed throwing my mates S8 round the bends.

— wataboutbob (View Profile)

Posted on 9/30/2006 3:27:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I still think this car looks like predator, but im sure it drives well though

— Chronoseus (View Profile)

Posted on 10/2/2006 12:47:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

This car is HOT! I would buy one. They actually do a nice job with the gaping air intakes on the front of the car (Porsche take note!)

— 993Turbo (View Profile)

Posted on 10/2/2006 6:54:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

This car is HOT! I would buy one. They actually do a nice job with the gaping air intakes on the front of the car (Porsche take note!)

— 993Turbo (View Profile)

Posted on 10/2/2006 6:54:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Have to see if this two seater has any leg room though.

— 993Turbo (View Profile)

Posted on 10/2/2006 6:55:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1