Bmw preparing diesel offensive in the United States! Will keep V8s!

Representing Deutsche Land VEEEE DUB here wit Das Diesel

— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 4:31:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

10% to 20%? Who are they kidding? If BMW is serious about achieving that figure, they need to bring over the 120d, 123d, 320d, 520d etc. and make them affordable to the masses.

— investor27 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 4:59:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

good point! But they must have a good plan too...

— tryme (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 5:17:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

It'd be nice if they actually had these diesels on the lots here in the US. I went looking for either a 335d or X5d and no one had them near me...The dealers said these will probably be 'special order' vehicles - one more reasons diesels have a hard time winning here :(

— ChiAutoGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 5:43:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Generally, Americans hate diesels. As long as diesel costs more than petrol AND petrol is less than $4/gal, any sigificant conversion to diesel just ain't gonna happen.

— thstone (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 6:15:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

10-20% diesel penetration? That's enough of a reason for oil companies to doulbe diesel prices again.

I can just see people lining up to buy $60,000 diesels right now.

BMW must be making huge profits off of diesels if they refuse to give them up. Cheaper to manufacture than gasoline thanks to volume in Europe (newer ones probably the same price) yet higher premiums. Its practically free money.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/11/2009 7:01:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

BMW just went from most sustainable to most likely to tank due to not being able to compete on hybrid and electric. Diesel is NOT THE WAY and forcing us to change our ways with DIESEL backed with German arrogant is NOT THE WAY!

— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2009 5:32:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

veyron,
Japan doesn't buy diesels either. China only buys diesel delivery trucks.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2009 1:23:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Contrary to popular belief, GM did not kill the diesel for Americans. How many Americans actually know that there was a diesel powered Oldsmobile in the early 80s? What prevented diesels from rising in popularity is cheap gasoline. Plain and simple. The closest the average American came to a diesel is trucks that were noisy, slow, and smokey. So they naturally lean towards familiarity and then project that outwards far and wide. Times have changed but it's just a pitty that the ignorant among the population seem to have the most say in the matter. Empty barrels...

— tango (View Profile)

Posted on 9/12/2009 10:37:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Mercedes killed the diesels in the US with all those smelly smoky tailpipes we all keep remembering.

— Badgewhore (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2009 3:15:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

tango,
If diesels are the answer, why do the Germans still make gasoline engines...in Europe? Diesels are for PURE profit, nothing more. If you believe otherwise, then their marketing guys have successfully reprogrammed you.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/13/2009 10:42:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

You are right 1UAW. Technology has not changed since the mid 80's. In fact, the internet doesnt exist either because if it didnt exist in the 80's, it must not exist now. You are a stupid F.

— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2009 10:28:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

and what a stupid article. They said that BMW had a dismal showing in the CARS program. Of course they did! If you cannot afford to get out of your $100 car unless the government gives you $4500, the average price vehicle you can afford does not start in the $30k range.
The companies that have the lower priced MSRP's are the ones who moved the most metal. Who doesnt know that? Apparantly 4 wheels blog

— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2009 10:33:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Audi has new diesel commercials out. Won't do them any good becuase nobody wants to spend $50,000+ on a diesel (Germans just don't get that).
And for their "affordable" diesels, who wants to buy one when a far superior hybrid is available? Especially when the diesel nolonger qualifies for gov't rebates.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/14/2009 11:01:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Deisels have proven to cost more to repair, have been smelly , and not as quick as compareable gas engines.

— 1UAW

I think the key words in your quote are "have" and "proven". I think the correct wording should be "history"; not "proven". There is no prove that a modern, clean-burning diesel cost more to repair than a modern direct-injection, turbo-charged gas engine. The word "have" is also interesting. Yes, diesels "have" be smelly, but are not now, so what's the point of that statement.

Mercedes-Benz claims that one can't get CO poisoning by getting in a closed garage with a running E320 BlueTec and staying their all night. Try that with a spark-ignition powered car, and you'll wake up dead the next morning. Yes, diesels "have" been dirty and "smelly" but are not now, and that's the point.

— gregsfc (View Profile)

Posted on 9/16/2009 12:33:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2