First look at the new baby Rolls Royce

^When will Honda develop a sedan to compete with the LS and S-class?

— EL34i (View Profile)

Posted on 3/13/2007 1:06:48 PM | | Votes: 9   

Fellas this is how us ganstas roll.

— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 3/13/2007 1:49:09 PM | | Votes: -5   

how do you know where and whether any manufacturer will chose to compete - if there is sufficient $ to be made then I can even imagine the Koreans or Chinese getting into the bespoke super-luxury market, and probably Honda and Toyota too. It's all a matter of profits, and given the Maybach financial disaster - I suspect we won't see many other manufacturers get into the $200K + category for a while - unless its through the purchase of one of the existing players. I think Mercedes is vulnerable and may be purchased in the next couple of years by one of the Asian makes.

— MercBasher (View Profile)

Posted on 3/14/2007 9:47:04 AM | | Votes: -1   

Impossible!!

— woood (View Profile)

Posted on 3/16/2007 5:15:46 AM | | Votes: 3   

First off, YOUR TOTALLY OFF TOPIC HERE!,

Secondly, what's up with your sarcasm about "Honda, I mean Acura". What about your Toyota, I mean Lexus LS? Feel offended yet? lol. Jesus Christ son, you need to get it thru your head that no Lexus is going to compete with a Bentley, Rolls Royce, or Maybach. Did Lexus ever claim that theory? No, it's Jeremy Clarkson who did a comparison between cars. It doesn't mean they are in the same class. Top Gear compared an EVO with a Murcielago, does that mean an EVO is just as good? Hell no.

Quit stirring stuff up in these threads that have nothing related to your beloved Toyota brand.

On another note, Honda is successful in what they do. It's all about finance, not who can make what car. IF a company is succesful in doing what their doing why mess with a good thing. If/When they feel the need to go upmarket i'm sure Acura/Honda is capable of making high grade cars.

I feel Acura is under-rated as well. It has a lot of potential. The TL in my opinion i think is an understated entry-level luxury sedan. It's got a smooth engine with a surprisingly quiet cabin. It's got a lot more room than the IS as well for people who are in that market if they one of their pet peeves is leg room. I like the IS though, I just wished their interior was more roomy.

-Agent63

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/14/2007 5:59:21 AM | | Votes: 1   

THANK YOU AGENT63!!! i agree with everything you just said. :)

i too am a big fan of the TL. i like the drivetrain AND the interior more than the IS. ...just wish it came in an AWD or RWD package.

— DallasMR2 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/15/2007 3:31:00 PM | | Votes: 2   

Well, you're wrong.

People who buy $100K cars can't afford EVERYTHING.

I have a friend with a loaded, '04 SL500. He would only be able to afford a DB9 if he dipped into one of his kids' college funds, sold the SL for $70K (not likely) and got a cheap lease on the Aston.

If I really, really wanted to, I COULD sell my two Audis and get one of the twelve-cylinder Germans. But I would never be able to afford a Phantom. Not a day in my life have I had $350K simply to blow off.

As hard as it is to see for some of you, everyone has a limit. I can get a $90-95K Carrera Cabriolet but I would be stretching by quite a lot if I bought a 911 Turbo.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 3/14/2007 6:11:06 PM | | Votes: 0   

Haha am i the same person as him? NO.

A dweeb? wow what's with the harsh words you're really hurting my feelings over the internet. It's obvious that you're offended that I talk down upon your Lexus LS that you have to talk back like you're a 10 year old.

What if i want to say that you're a moron who knows nothing what you going to do about that? absolutely nothing. Quit trying to be a tough guy over the net it doesn't make you one in real life.

You should really read what people write in response to your comments. Haven't you noticed they receive numerous deboosts? You get them for a reason. So why don't you back off and slow your roll buddy. Don't get mad at me because you get so much heat from everybody. It's not my fault I say the LS is not a competitor to the RR, Bentley, or Maybach because ITS NOT. Go search on any site you see and you go see it's competitors, none are the ultra luxury saloon. You can compare all you want but we all know it isn't. Whatever makes you sleep well at night my friend.

Do you even own a Lexus? Hell do you even own a car? Or are you just a dreamer who reads reviews for a living hoping to one day drive one. Seriously, go out test drive them and then make a judgement.

You obviously do not have respect for the LS competition and don't forget that Mercedes was and still is a revolution in cars. It innovates and the mainstream copy after. ABS, SAT NAV all which is in your favorite car the LS but was fitted in the S-Class first before any.

I'm not even going to feud with you. It's pointless. You're narrow minded. I even respect the LS but my favorite would be the S-Class. You on the other hand think Lexus is the best and will beat this and that. You haven't seen or felt. You just heard. You have to see to believe. Not hear to believe.

DONE. Don't even bother responding. I'm not going to waste my time on you. So you don't waste your time on me.

-Agent63

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/15/2007 5:02:47 AM | | Votes: 2   

So tell me an S550 starts at $119,500.00 CAD and the LS460 starts at $86,400.00 CAD and the LS460L starts at 98,700.00 CAD. Both technically still under 100K even with the LS460L model.

TECHNICALLY the LS under 100K but it's closest competition would be the big III from Germany. Like i've said before it will not be comparable to the RR, Bentley or Maybach, especially since prices for a top range petrol LS isn't as high as the starting S550.

Lexus is good value for money. It just can't hold it's own against the classy european cars in terms of rich history and innovation (example:S-Class). Don't get me wrong the LS is great for the price. If i was more on a budget for a full size luxury saloon I would choose the LS. It's comfortable, very spacious, quiet, very worth my money.

It's a different feeling when you're in a European sedan than in a Japanese. Both are good but it's a different ambiance.

— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/15/2007 5:19:05 AM | | Votes: 0   

Agent63,

as much as i agree with your statements re; Lexus...the 1996 Acura RL was the first car to offer sat-nav.

but keep on going! makes for a great read.

— DallasMR2 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/16/2007 1:30:39 PM | | Votes: 1   

Well here in America where I live, our primary language is english. Try speaking it please and then get back with me...

— Caddyman (View Profile)

Posted on 3/15/2007 7:13:50 PM | | Votes: 0