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Forget the 2008 M3, IS-F, or C63. Here is 2008's hottest car.....

henbmw submitted on 7/18/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 10:12:07 PM

70 user comments | Category: New Cars | Source: | SOURCE: www.motortrend.com

Tag Links: Ferrari, F430, Scuderia

No comparisons needed (except maybe the Gallardo Superleggera); this beauty is in a league of its own.

Behold motor-sport perfection...

the F430 Scuderia

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Forget the 2008 M3, IS-F, or C63. Here is 2008's hottest car.....

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Ferrari wheels.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 12:38:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

Xerokool, you're making yourself look stupid mate.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 7:51:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

So you genuinely think Ferrari COPIED the wheels design from a Lexus IS?
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 12:11:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

All car designers look at all kind of cars, so it won't be surprising if a Ferrari takes an idea from Lexus or somewhere else. There's a difference between copying and competing, a lot say the first LS400 was a copy to the MB S class, but it really was not. It was a competitor a new taste of design in that category.
Take the Italian sport cars, they close in their looks but they're not copies of each other but that is the class they fall in.

And in short, neither Ferrari nor Lexus for the sake of the wheels discussion came up with such wheels, they only chose them from some wheels manufacturer, so neither one copied the other.
— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:36:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Xero,

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Okay, so they have similar WHEELS! Why do you have to come into the article and annoy the hell out of us by saying something incredibly stupid, ill-conceived and badly executed? It makes all Lexus fans look like idiots. Stop while you're ahead- I've just come back to this site today, and you've already put me in a bad mood.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 10:04:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

It is good, but the best in 2008 will be LF-A: 9,000+rpm, 5.0L v10, 570+hp, ~2,600lbs.
— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 1:11:01 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -13

and this comment is almost as dumb as the headline. lol. comparing a ferrari to a car that doesn't exist...from a company that's yet to make a performance car. hysterical.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:21:03 AM | | Votes: 3

2600 pounds? That's about 1181 kg! YOU ARE INSANE!
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 3:56:13 AM | | Votes: 1

I might be wrong, but i think he's being sarcastic
— leelemon (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 4:32:36 AM | | Votes: 4

3,000lbs-3,100lbs is pretty optimal for a car like the LF-A; but Lexus will be lucky if they can even come close to that weight. It won't be 2,600lbs, that's for sure.
— Bmw8ter (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 8:10:45 AM | | Votes: 1

SupraNeverBack, where did you get these crazy numbers from?
— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:37:48 PM | | Votes: 3

D8mn, you guys think I was crazy to make up those numbers?

AutoExpress from UK reported it will weight just north of 2,500lbs.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/05/06/toyota-lf-a-supercar-to-debut-as-pacecar-for-2007-japanese-grand/

570+hp is from RoadandTrack' insider inforomation.

Don't believe that? Then watch this spy video again.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShrOWznZbns
— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 7:36:49 PM | | Votes: -2

So, because AutoExpress says it, it has to be true, right? WRONG.

The Porsche 911 Turbo and Audi R8 both weigh in at about 3,500lbs. With a much heavier engine (and probably more luxury electronics), Lexus will be lucky if they can achieve that weight. Stop making yourself look foolish. The LF-A will be a hot car, but it doesn't need to be super light.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 10:06:52 PM | | Votes: 2

A Carrera GT weighs 3043 lbs, there's no way this will weigh 2500 lbs. More like 3500 lbs i'd say. Unless they strip it of all creatue comforts, but then it wouldn't really be a Lexus would it?
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 5:43:16 AM | | Votes: 2

^ Now look what happened, I actually forgot this article was about a Ferrari. Stop bringing Lexus into every article, this is a Ferrari, its in a totally different league in terms of performance and character.
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 5:50:43 AM | | Votes: 2

Didn't you guys ever hear some material that is twice stiff as Aluminum and has tensile strength that exceeds steel but weight of plastic,a material that can be tailored for different strength orientations?

Carrera GT is old with a bigger engine, a convertible, 5inches longer, 1 inch wider.
— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 12:11:50 PM | | Votes: 0

The frame may be light, or even the engine they throw in the LF-A, but the leather, carpeting and luxury amenities will definitely not be lightweight.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 4:04:10 PM | | Votes: 0

no way. ford hempmobile.
— minimalist (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 1:12:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

WHY YOU EVEN bother bringing Lexus to Ferrari articles. PLEASE!!!
— MrGunFun (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 1:28:01 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

Sweet.....but I still think Lexus will take this car anyday, ok..ok...I was only joking :) LOL.....

This Ferrari is absolutely gorgeous but I still think the Lambo Gallardo look much better.
— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 1:35:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

duh, no really...damn you're a sharp one!
— bagwell (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 8:49:06 AM | | Votes: 1

510 bhp is alot from 4.3 litres. Well done Ferrari!
— 7msynthetic (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:06:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

what a stupid headline. this car is in a completely different stratosphere from the ones you reference.

for the price of this car you could buy the M3, C63 and IS-F...and still have enough left to take the family to europe for a month.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:19:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Whoever said 'hottness' has any correlation with price? The real stupidity lies in your criticism; the hottest car of a year doesn't have to be the best deal as it almost never is.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 9:22:24 AM | | Votes: -4

Christ, what did I say
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 6:22:16 PM | | Votes: 0

then why is the headline comparing these cars?
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/21/2007 8:50:43 PM | | Votes: 1

It is stunningly brilliant! Ferrari track cars have always been much more hardcore compared to Porsche's GT and GT RS models. Only the 993 RS and 993 GT2 were equally stripped.

I mean Porsche 997 GT2 has 530 hp and a lot more torque but it weighs 1430 kg! For me that is simply too much! The current GT3 RS still weighs 1375 kg.. Bu t then again we all know how good Porsche is with weight distribution.

This could be one hell of a fight. I can't wait for a Top Gear comparo, last time the much more expensive F430 Challenge Stradale won over the 996 GT3 RS. On the top gear track they were exactly equally fast.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 4:02:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

It shifts in only 60ms! WOW! I believe in F1 they switch gears at about 50ms.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 4:04:11 AM | | Votes: 1

Actually it's 30ms in F1, my bad.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 6:00:18 AM | | Votes: 1

Very nice but the LF-A is gonna kick its ass.
— STJ88 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 5:17:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

Because Lexus has a rich history in building the world's best sportscars ... right?

ignorant fanboy.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 6:01:03 AM | | Votes: 4

Too expensive to get me excited.

Not to perpetuate the Lexus thing, but if they do build it, it would be interesting if they tried to offer an alternative to the Gallardo (basically 200k supercar class) instead of a more luxury coupe, aka CL600...The LF-A could end up being another NSX - stuck in limbo.

Sweet car - but 2008's hottest.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 8:39:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Ferrari better step it up. Because once the Lexus LF-A is out, its over!
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 9:13:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

i wonder what idiots like you did before the Internet?
— vman1013 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 9:39:49 AM | | Votes: 3

vman1013. Look at my screen name. I'm just poking fun at the Lexus Lunatics.
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 11:40:46 AM | | Votes: -2

its hard to tell the real lex fans from the smart guys. apologies sir!
— vman1013 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 11:42:59 AM | | Votes: 1

Yes it is sooo hot but sorry, the M3 does it for me :)
— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 9:32:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

You really love that M3 do ya'.. hehe can't blame you M53R..
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 12:14:34 PM | | Votes: -2

I think they may, at the end of its life cycle not now. Dont forget the M3 CSL is coming.

And yes, I love the new M3 ;)
— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 7/22/2007 9:31:52 AM | | Votes: 1

Where do people come up with such a headline?

Personally, I don't think it looks as good as it could have. The front air dams are lamborghini-esque, and it looks a little too tamed.

I still think my Porsche will kick its arse on the tracks. But we'll see.
— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 11:49:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

You fools are straight up stupid if you think there is anything hotter than the 2008 BMW M3, not the POS Lexus or the POS*2 Ferrari...
— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 11:53:31 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

You guys are right. Real brands from Germany are for us men that pee all over the toilet seat and don't even bother to clean it! That's how we roll!
— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 1:43:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

And I thought ignorant people were filtered out by the moderators of this site...
— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:24:52 PM | | Votes: 5

lol its so funny how the BMW fans have so much hate to Lexus and Lexus fans, look how they make fun of the Lexus fans when they say something about the IS-F and call them ignorants, but when a BMW fan mentions the M3, they back him up. lool

Now who's the ignorant here fan boys?

I always say, the truth must be said, as a Lexus fan myself, with no doubts none of the M3, IS-F, C63 should be compared to this monster, they're sedan and coupes, this is pure racing car.

Now the LF-A can't be compared against this either, cause the LF-A will be a lexury sport coupe and that you can compare against the MB SL550 the BMW 650 and the alike.

All Ferrari cars are build as a race cars in their soul, not fast lexury and that's a big difference.

So, both fans stop making stupid comments.
— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 2:46:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

If you think LF-A cannot compete with it, then you are not a true Lexus fan. :) And to say LF-A to compete with M6 is an insult to Lexus fans. :(

Watch this and listen to the most powerful v10 sound. Zero body roll and almost no tire screaming means ultra light weight.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShrOWznZbns
— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 7:45:47 PM | | Votes: 0

Supra- That video is very impressive. I will admit, it has given me a new found respect for the LF-A and Toyota.

However, I highly doubt Lexus will go for the lightweight sports coupe market that this f430 will conquer. I see it as being more of a mini McLaren SLR, which is not a bad thing at all.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 9:48:21 PM | | Votes: -1

I agree, the LF-A will still be a Lexus meaning that, like the SLR, there will be a degree of luxury involved. Performance wise it should be epic but I doubt it'll be anywhere near as hardcore as a Carrera GT, in which you have to be pretty skilful to get the best out of.
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 5:35:08 AM | | Votes: 0

the "LF-A" DOES NOT EXIST yet. and we don't know anything other than rumors about a production car.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 7/21/2007 8:51:53 PM | | Votes: 1

You just said it by yourself, this is a supercar. The M3 is better n daily driving and has the performance. It's not like Im saying its better, but it's fantastic.
— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 7/22/2007 9:27:53 AM | | Votes: 1

When I read the title, I thought it would be the Cadillac CTS-V.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 7/19/2007 10:07:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

frisk - just PLEASE go away!

— bagwell (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 8:47:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Best looking Ferrari interior in a while.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 7/20/2007 11:13:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

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