Humiliation: Toyota Supra vs. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640

Modified vs. Stock.

Well heck, I'll just put 5000HP in a Lambo!

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:01:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -12   

Didnt know superchargers had blow off valves

— Lexapeal (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:16:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 10   

nitrous?

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:17:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

not a proper comparison as EL34 mentioned. BS article.

— Talli (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:25:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

EL34's wife was not riding shot gun, the Lambo could have easily shaved off 600lbs and a victory....LMAO!!!

— BigShow50 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:26:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

so the Supra drives faster, big deal. The Lamborghini drops panties faster, and I'd take one over any Supra all day every day and twice on Sunday.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:42:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6   

I'd like to see them go from a stop, and not from an in-car camera.

— adamsaf723 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:45:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

is that what it takes for u 2 get laid?? lol

looks like youre the lame one here

— stash84 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 2:55:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 12   

Wow, you have a lot of bottled-up negativity, don't you? I guess all the trips to the mechanic and service department can do that to people sometimes...? HAHA

— LexusLion (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 12:52:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Wow, looks like somebody drifted from the OT in Sherdog...

Phail.

— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 1:32:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

carlover 99 ... what is the point of the article? 1200 hp with most likely nitrous vs a 600hp lambo. Since we are on a ridiculous subject why dont we take a Hayabusa and race it against a Harley v-rod ... ridiculous

— BMW4me4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 1:57:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

I'm thinking that what is being demonstrated here is...

One can take a 15 year old Toyota Supra, invest about 10 to 15k in performance mods, bringing the grand total to around 30k, and Absolutely Spank a 350k Lamborghini Murcielago.

Sure, we can argue about Tuner vs Stock, etc. but...

The Fact Is - the Lamborghini Got Beat, and in a Race - Nothing Else Matters!

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 2:17:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 14   

Lighten up guys, this was only intended to get your knickers in a twist...looks like it worked. Good thing it wasn't Lambo vs Hummer in an off road contest...we'd see page-long rantings explaining why it wasn't a fair contest.

— sold2early (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 2:19:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

what a silly comparison.

a production car vs. a one-off specially-built car.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 3:06:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9   

There are modded Supra's at even 700 hps that leave modded Hayabusa in the dust. Truth of the matter, yes for people buying a Lambo for 300k would not consider a Supra...but how does that driver behind the wheel of a Lambo feel after losing to a "SUPRA?"...not all to F'in great, that's for sure, even after spending 300K. Bottom line, if EL34's wife was not riding shot gun, the Lambo would have been 600lbs less lighter and a possible victory...LMAO!!!!

— BigShow50 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 3:36:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

I read up on a guy who turned a $200 minivan into a 10 sec flat quarter turner, with around 10k$ invested. With money, you can buy as much speed as you want. At the end of the day, your still in a supra, and the guy you "smoked" in the Lambo will still have a Lambo. Theres always someone faster out there.

— Obliv (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 3:59:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Now this is humiliated:

BMW M3 e92 vs Toyota Supra TT 1996 drag race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPLcs_rfDrw

— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 4:11:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Well, fast is fast no matter what it is/was.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 4:51:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9   

Is this supposed to be surprising?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 5:21:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

To those who are asking what is the Lamborghini owner thinking? He isn't thinking anything. He OWNS both the Supra and the Murcielago. Do your research, check the Lamborghini forums and you will find out that he wanted to see how his 2 cars compared against each other.

Also who the hell thinks the Supra is supercharged?

— sushtsi (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 5:45:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

If they super supercharged a BMW 335 and put it up against the lambo and the same results were achieved, there wouldnt be so many haters. The entire mood of this thread would be positive instead of negative

— 0to60 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 5:55:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6   

Both are superb vehicles for whatever their owner wants them for. The Murcielago isn't exactly a slow poke either.

Who's to say a Supra owner doesn't have a McLaren sitting in his garage too? My brother has a tuned Celica and an A6. Not in the same price league as above Lambo, but same idea.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 6:18:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

Guys, stop the fighting. Looks to me that both drivers are friends trying to show what the supercharged Supra can do. A Porsche 911 turbo stock with beat a Lambo stock too, but sincerely, which one will any of you choose? I don't think anyone of those praising the Supra, will choose it. I own a Bentley Continental GT and get people attention when I hit the street. I don't get the same reaction in my SL65 AMG.

— Prophete (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 8:04:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8   

I would still take the Lambo over that Supra. I know Chevy Chevelle's that can do 7 sec 1/4 miles and smoke that Supra. Hell I know a 600 HP Porsche 944 that will eat that Supra since it weighs less than a Ton! Stock vs HEAVILY modified is no true contest.

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 8:55:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

BTW...I agree that Supra Def had Nitrous flowing to jump like it did. Lucky guy to have all of those nice toys. Wonder if he is a dealer owner or son of the local drug cartel? hehe

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 9:02:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

And That Supra cant be street legal. Look at it.

— M3owns (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 9:34:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

this Rosko Retard obviously hates asians as well as asian cars.

he prob'ly never got over that his asian schoolmates were taking calculus while he was still struggling with remedial math; he can ONLY resort to calling 'em nerds.

so he's into dissing toyotas, since HE can ONLY afford used hyundais, if that. (to say nothing of lambos.)

5-10 years down the road, they'll be earning 10-20x what he will, flipping burgers or whatever. (IF he finally gets his g.e.d.)

— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 12:44:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6   

Rosko, your an idiot!

— 0to60 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 3:19:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

rosko when you get down mopping the floors of the bank and get out into the REAL world, you'll find that many 'Asian dudes' FROM asia actually have a preference for full sized AMERICAN cars.

Asian-Americans, on the other hand, do like asian cars (NOT only supras) AND domestics, to a lesser extent, AND even euro brands (IF they don't mind the higher maintenance costs!).

your SIMPLE MINDED VIEWS and prejudices only REFLECT your low level of commentary. AND intelligence.

— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 7:47:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

You can get laid in both on different scenes.

Lambo=Beverly Hills Blonde. Supra=Tokyo Drift!

And the Tokyo Drift girls are hot and will love you even if you wreck your tuned Supra. Not the same for the Beverly Hills Blonde!

Either way you go, there is a place for you. But you can't compare a Lambo to a tuned Supra. Different audience. Different Driver. The guy in the Lambo probably borrowed it from his rich Dad to race some guy from school that is cooler than him!

— vman1013 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 10:23:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6   

ok I watched the video. Supra is nice. Still a different car. The guy with the Supra wants (and obvioulsy can) beat almost any car on the road. The guy in the Lambo could beat almost any car on the road and looks better doing it.

— vman1013 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 10:29:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

This is just dumb... its too extreme. Its like putting a A4 DTM and calling it an A4. Its going to kill just about any stock car in acceleration and on the track...

Its just not fair. Of course you could tune a car to beat a stock car...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/5/2008 10:58:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

You think that Supra is fast? Look at this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8DxXhwdSI

— yrralis1 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 12:02:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

NICE!

— LexusLion (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 12:23:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

not quite AS MUCH power.

the straight 6 in the supra has a rep of being able to be modded TO A FAR HIGHER DEGREE before it blows up.

the F&F folks can make a civic faster than a 'vette. they likely still need to start with a supra to beat a lambo.

— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 7:13:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I am not a toyota fan, but if anyone disrespects and rubbishes the supra, even i feel outraged, really, to talk rubbish of supra is like blasphemy, really the supra along with the godzilla GTR are two of the most highly regarded foreign cars in Europe, probably after the 1967 Mustang.

— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 3:53:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

Oh please.

No engine that is heavily modified will run reliably for 5 years. No engine. It won't even run reliably for a few months. The wear and tear will be incredible and accelerate the "destruction of the engine" in a much shorter time.

Heavily modified engines are placed under enormous stress by the new power and torque settings. A Formula One engine only lasts for about 300-600 miles before it is fried, and we're talking about 3-l V10 motors with 700-800-horsepower.

— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 9:52:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

oh dear

— pacotacolol (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 8:23:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

as I do like the tuner scene, I'm more into autocross and track, since drag racing bores me out.


do some of you realize you can also build a benz or a bmw, hell an audi to make it that fast? the tuner scene doesn't consist of japanese cars if thats what your thinking. tuning firms also make aftermarket parts for euros (dinan for bimmers?) you can build a m3, e63 w/e to make it as fast as a lambo with the right parts an knowledge. chipping a car is also considered tuning as well.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 8:57:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6   

jmr,
Good pick, the end does refer to him being owners of both vehicles. I thought it was strange why he'd post himself being beat by a Supra.

Anyway, who cares about HP? The Evo MR FQ400 only has 400hp and its factory tuned (well, special design division) and will keep up to the Lamborghini in a drag, and it doesn't need boost.

Rosko,
Funny, the Germans are the kings of cranking out useless V12s with 500hp. Brabus' and the rest tuning basically equates to putting some shiney rims on and bigger turbochargers. The Evo has a 4 banger and would smoke everything Germany has to offer.
I'll remind you that whatever Germany does, the US and Japan will do better. Pick a class and a German car and I'll tell you what US or Japanese car will beat it. I'll just save us all some time.
Shelby Ultimate Aero 2.78 sec and 256mph
Saleen S7 TT, 3.2sec and 248mph
Dodge Viper SRT10, 3.5sec and 190mph
C6 Corvette, 3.5sec and 180mph
Nissan GT-R, 3.5sec and 193mph
Mitsubishi Evo MR FQ400, 3.5sec 175mph
Subaru WRX STi, 4.5sec 155mph
Ford F150 SVT, 5sec 142mph
Acura NSX-Type S Zero, 4.5sec and 190mph (not bad for a car predominently designed in 1990 and with ONLY around 290hp).

Because I know you don't know, the only true advantage of having more cylinders is a higher topspeed.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 3:37:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

lol

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 6:23:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5   

Guys it's not like the Supra is the only car that can be supercharged to slingshot past a Lambo.

I just can't believe there's actually people out there who would drop 70K on a used Supra just because it's Lambo fast...Are you crazy!! I'd rather take that money & spend it on a GT-R which really isn't all that much slower, has it in the handling department, looks way better than the dated Supra, & not to mention way better equipped.

Give me an M3 as well any day over that Supra, you could drive the Bimmer in a practical manor everyday in total comfort, & then hit the tracks with the Bavarian athlete & have more fun than you would in a “straight line thrills only” supercharged Supra.

— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 7:16:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

This topic has more negative boost than that Supra has positive!

— Celestion (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 8:09:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

I wonder who's screwball idea it was to put 1200 horsepower into an old relic like the Toyota Supra?

They must be nuts!

o_O

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/6/2008 9:10:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9   

no big news here, most tuned vehicles outperform stock ones.

but 1200hp supras aren't uncommon nowadays. the technology and advancement over the yearss has some tuners gettting the 2JZ motor int he supra to 1700+ hp. on the stock motor, with the stock twin turbo's you can get about 500hp out of those. and this is on a stock bottom end.

to this day i don't think there is a motor that could take the power the 2JZ delivered in stock form. I mean what other vehicle/motor do you know of that can handle this type of power without improving the bottom end on a daily driven basis? maybe the 4g63 in the EVO's but even that gave way under higher power.

i am eager to see who ups the power of the turbo motor in the bmw to find out its potential...so far, all i've heard is 400-450hp with around the same torque.

— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 9:21:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

So true.

— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 10:42:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

Japan copies everyone.

Do you know how we talk about Made in China like it's a joke?...we used to do the same thing about Made in Japan.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 10:55:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9   

then who made compact SUV segment, or the crossover utility wgn? who also made the fastest speedbike? I think your comment is the joke here.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 4:35:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

That was entertaining....next!

— Need4Speed (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 11:11:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

People are really arguing about this?

— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 11:22:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

This is a stupid article. It's a stock car vs a moded on a straight dumb dumb dumb

— KillBot (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 2:09:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The Supra is awesome.

— jon21 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 2:27:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

"GoObama08" you think a stock Supra will outrun the new E92 M3? It won't even outrun a E46 M3. Clearly a modified Supra in the video you provided. So who's "PWNED" now moron?

— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 6:19:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

When will it end? Toyota vs Lambo, jeeze, put this car against the Veyron and it will give it a run. You can take ANY car, do some work to it and make it faster than 99% of the production cars on the road. If it were so easy for auto makers to make cheap easy power they would, unfortunately they have other conditions to worry about, ie. New Car Emission Regulations etc. If it were so great, why didn't Toyota just put this wonderful engine into the IS?

....maybe you think there is some big conspiracy out there to keep us car enthusiasts "down".

— kablaam (View Profile)

Posted on 1/7/2008 7:30:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

hahahahah this is so funny...

In first place i'd expected lambo to win (Toyota????? :-S ) until when I read the toyota had TWELVE HUNDRED hp... even a Bugatti Veyron doesn't have that.

— LEXEDES82 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 12:27:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

that supra has my utmost respect

— KZ258 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 6:13:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8   

Meaningless test.

— JVince (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 6:36:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5   

I doubt anyone is still reading this so I will rant.
This 'comparison' is a meaningless exercise. Two very different cars performing very different missions. I doubt the Supra had the level of refinement that the Lamborghini has with the LP640. Or that it can handle as well, or that it has similar durability (how long can that engine pump out that much power before blowing to pieces? And how long can that drivetrain last?) I mean, they're two totally different machines. I could as similarly 'compare' this 1200 bhp supra with an F1 car and tout about the 'humiliation' the F1 car delivered. Meaningless!

— JVince (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 6:50:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7   

There's one point we all can agree on and that is how stupid ugly the Toyota Supra is.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/8/2008 9:04:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

Jesus, you all sound like a bunch of losers. Are you really arguing over which car is better, when none of you actually own either one? And who wants a chick who is attracted to you for your car? That's pathetic.

— Endzone108 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/10/2008 9:00:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Midengine,
Doesn't matter, THIS Supra would still be faster than any Lamborghini.

EL34,
The Germans used to laugh at the Americans, now it's the US and Japan laughing at Europe :D
You can deny all you want, but the Germans are infact copying the Japanese and Americans now.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/10/2008 10:31:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

WTF? why do they have a BMW as the picture?

— ILikeLambo (View Profile)

Posted on 1/28/2008 10:50:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1