Leaked Images Have Hit The Web But The Spies Are The First With Full Details Of The New 7-Series

Agent001 submitted on 07/03/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 12:31 PM
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Tags: 2010 BMW 7-Series

2010 BMW 7-Series

NOW UPDATED WITH OFFICIAL PHOTOS!

Late last night, someone broke BMW's embargo and posted the photos of the new BMW 7-Series for everyone to see and repost.

But AutoSpies.com is the first to have the FULL details of the car.

The new car is chocked with new technologies and improvements so we suggest you read the full 36 pages of the official release BEFORE you start making your final decisions on the car.

You may have not liked the design of the last car but NOTHING drives better in its competitive set.

And this one has been improved!

Can't wait to drive it!

And you know the Spies will be first to get behind the wheel early this fall to bring you our first drive impressions.

After reading the release, let us know what you think are the hottest attributes of the new car...

Official New BMW 7-Series Full Details

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blackbr - 7/3/2008 12:44:19 PM

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Not bad, but maybe a little bland? I like the view from the rear/side of the car rather than the front/side, the front looks a little too much like the 5 series. Side view looks like Lexus LS (which is ironic since Lexus LS is a plagiarized BMW).

I'm not exactly wowed by the interior either. Seems like a more conservative treatment of the current interior.

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motor1 - 7/3/2008 7:39:49 PM

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I thought the Lexus LS was a copy of the Mercedes S-Class, not the 7 Series

TheSailor - 7/3/2008 12:45:22 PMView My AgentSpace

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Hmm... Not exactly a jaw dropper, but then again, that isn't exactly what the segment is known for, and unlike the old one, this is VERY uncontroversial.

Looks like they've gone back to the buttons approach to satisfy demand for a less complicated iDrive... Don't know if I like it... Don't know if I like the car at all actually... It's not ugly, just a little... well... boring! Kinda like the A8 or the LS

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dayday - 7/4/2008 12:42:43 AM

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i dont think this kind of car is suppose to be that "exciting".
its not a very very good looking car. a bit disappointed when i saw the front. but over all, not bad.

Agent001 - 7/3/2008 12:51:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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Could it be that they went VERY conservative so the when the CS Concept becomes a reality shows its sexy face, it is the new halo car for BMW and they get the big shots to step up to a more expensive and exclusive proposition?

You guys aren't thinking like Auto Spies ;)

001

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TheSailor - 7/3/2008 12:57:59 PMView My AgentSpace

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Hmm... I think there might actually be some sense to that! The 7-series will take care of the more conservative buyers and then the 8-series (or whatever they choose to call it) will take care of the buyers looking for something aggressive and radical... Lets hope so, because this is a bit of a letdown!

Teknik - 7/3/2008 2:33:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agent001,

Why do you need to make excuses for BMW? Do they pay you to do so? This car is just plain boring, plain and simple. It is third in sales, and will never catch the LS or S-Class. Every time you make a post about BMW, it just shows that have no objectivity what-so-ever.

atomicbri - 7/3/2008 3:45:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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You may have a point. The CS production version (whatever it will be called) is the halo car and I am sure will look the part. It will be the styled vehicle while the 7 goes back to being an executive, understated luxo barge to carry people around in, with little conspicuousness.

bitschaser - 7/4/2008 9:08:58 AM

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That makes no sense. Why would BMW spend $1b to develop a car that they deliberately want to be undesirable so that their next (flagship) car looks even better. It does make sense that they are aiming at different markets with the two different cars, but they would still want both cars to be very desirable and best in class. I am a BMW fan, but think this does look like the LS and not as good looking as the S Class.

Agent001 - 7/3/2008 12:52:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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Ala Aston Rapide, Quattroporte, Panamera, etc...

001

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 12:58:45 PM

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Not even close...Looks like a stretch Lincoln MKS

Agent001 - 7/3/2008 1:02:41 PMView My AgentSpace

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I was referring to the cs concept, not the new 7.

001

TheSailor - 7/3/2008 1:03:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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He was reffering to the upcoming "8-series"...

Teknik - 7/3/2008 2:35:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Come on, seriously...

BMW doesn't have the prestige, class, or cachet of Aston Martin, Maserati, or Porsche.

It is an insult to compare BMW to those higher class brands.

FitzLA - 7/3/2008 5:14:03 PM

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Funny you should say that, cause if you look at the angled shots from the front corner looking back, it has a strong resemblance to the Quattroporte.

FitzLA - 7/3/2008 5:15:35 PM

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Ala quattroporte

http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent001/Official-BMW-7-Series-launch-photos/P0044064.jpg

silver1 - 7/3/2008 12:59:39 PM

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Still up set.....someone remove this Old Bland thing....

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 1:04:02 PM

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This is what happens when you mix Lexus LS and 7-Series together.....a 1900 cadillac Deville

The tail pipes looks great even though that was also stolen from the Lexus LS. Taillights/lightbulbs looks great, they light up similar to the LS also....

Did they take buy an LS and base the engineering off the LS into this car?

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 1:18:41 PM

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Even the trunk looks Lexus LSwith the poking out upper lip at top which also was stolen from the LS. The Last thing we need is 2 LS wanna be on streets, that makes you look bad. It's like when everybody is now copying the I-Phone with Sprint's Instinct and Verizon LG Voyager.

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 5:42:05 PM

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uh, pal, that "poking out upper lip" on the rear decklid you mention -- check out a 6-Series. Came out in 2003. Been on every one of them. That same decklid feature, just less pronounced, has been on every new BMW model since the previous 7-Series came out in 2001. Even the X3, X5, and X6 either have it or have hints of it.

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 5:46:30 PM

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the point being Toyota got the trunk of the LS from BMW, not vice versa. They also put it on the new Camry/ES350.

tkindred - 7/4/2008 9:03:34 AM

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Seems the other way around. Toyota has always been copying others when they design their Lexus cars. The ones that are original look awkward. Just my opinion though. BMW copying off of Lexus?

cdoke - 7/3/2008 1:08:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't find it bad. I think they have fixed some things that certainly needed it- notably the rear end and the leather dash. I like it better than the previous mid-life refresh, which I in turn liked better than the original.

The grille makes the car look smaller, which depending on your point of view could be a good or a bad thing.

It is a little bland, but I think that the proportions of the car are more to blame at this point. Sure the old one had similar proportions, and wasn't bland, but it had other problems.

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 1:12:14 PM

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BMW, why make us live with the same old 19th century interior??? Maybe you talk with Nissan, they are good on a "ALL NEW RESTYLED INTERIOR."

OK, even if u would've wanted to keep your design theme like Audi has in their interior, look at Audi's 2008 A4 and the 2009 A4.....

BMW why are punishing us, what did we do? Buy An LS?

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JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 5:55:10 PM

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19th century interior? What are you even talking about? Based on the press release this thing is about as advanced inside as a car has ever been. Are you talking about the appearance? It's a luxury cruiser, not a concept car -- were you hoping it would look like a spaceship inside?

spiritfilled - 7/3/2008 1:18:38 PM

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Unbelievable! As much of a BMW fanboy I have been, this is a let down. It's not that the car is hideous or all that bad, but its not even a BMW anymore in terms of appearance. It just looks weird and confused. I really can't see this car competing with others in its class for the next 7 years (in looks). The A8 is still beautiful and the new one is still on the way, i think, don't know too much about Audi's and their time cycles, the S Class my favorite in this segment (looks only), no comment on or for the extra large Camry, but this new 7 doesn't do it for me. I'll have to see it in person to believe it. This can't be real, it can't be. Lexus fan boys, please let us have it. I'm sure it drives beautifully though.

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 1:23:33 PM

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I'm not a Lexus fanboy. But Imma let you have it....

But I do agree with you on one thing like I stated before in the other article, it's not the BMW that you would expect, it's too Japanese. We have enough Lexus's LS and Acrua's RL out on the road, we want something different so thats why we choose the BMW 7-series. Now the 7-series are with the Japanos, what are we going to choose now??? S-Class?

I have to agree with you again, seems like the S-Class is all we got for right now until the new A8 comes along...

OBie - 7/3/2008 1:23:36 PM

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Ugh... disappointed again by BMW. The front end is nice (except for the pig nose oversized kidney grills); side is very nice, like a modern 5 series, but the back is to close to the Hyundai Genesis (and the interior looks like an Infiniti). Not that Infinitis and the new Genesis are bad cars, but the 7 series i suppose to be an innovator, avant-garde if you will... this sadly is not!

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damikco - 7/3/2008 1:26:52 PMView My AgentSpace

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why are all luxuary cars leading to boardom.

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AgentOrange - 7/3/2008 6:04:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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Because BMW designers finally caved in to the abuse from Bangle bashers....

NARunner - 7/3/2008 1:27:50 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't really care for Lexus much, but for once I agree with the Lexus crowd that this thing looks like the LS, straight up. Interior looks nice, but I'm not a fan of the exterior...S-Class beats the pants off this thing.

And 001, I don't really understand the logic about making this car purposely bland in order to make the CS (or 8 series, or whatever) look better when it comes out. Why would BMW purposely "dullify" this car to make another one stand out? Why not try to make both cars stand out? The two cars won't even be competing in the same segment...

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JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 6:04:59 PM

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I don't think the point was to make it bland, I think it was to make it less polarizing. It'll still have the driving dynamics, it just fits in with its peers more in terms of looks (aka they're not going to put off clients who wanted something more understated and elegant looking the way the previous one did). For people who WANT that over the top aggressive style, the 8-Series will fill that niche. It's not like BMW doesn't have soom room pricewise to slot the 8-Series in, the S-class already costs more than a 7-Series.

FerrarisR4me - 7/3/2008 1:29:14 PM

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Definitly not earth shattering... but I would rather drive this one than the current 7 series.

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auto001 - 7/3/2008 1:32:51 PM

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Here's the list...

1-series aka Lego aka Piglet
3-series aka Twinkie
5-series aka Walrus
6-series aka Turtle
7-series aka Lenny the shark
X3 aka Puppet
X5 aka Shrek
X6 aka Hippo

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 4:54:00 PM

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Every Lexus = little old ladymobile

cs4444 - 7/3/2008 1:34:13 PM

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I want to see some more pics. The exterior lines aprear to be clean and elegant. While the interior appears to be a nice evolution, and looks very high in quality. After reading the press release this car is loaded with new technologies, and old ones that have been fine tuned. It also embodies all things that make a BMW a BMW and will no doubt have class leading dynamics and performance.

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bigmotov - 7/3/2008 1:42:49 PM

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I've always been a fan of the 7-series, but this is really dissapointing. Since the new LS came out, I was anticipating something exciting, new, sexy, from BMW and this is what they end up with?!?! A vehicle that looks like a bunch of other vehicles lumped together? Infiniti hood and LS looks, and the same uninspiring interior? They might have gone conservative to save for the CS concept, but they didn't need to hand everything over to Lexus and Mercedes! If you put the LS and this side-by-side, this 7 series already looks old! Too bad.

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Milton - 7/3/2008 1:48:06 PM

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Agreed bigmotov.I was sooo excited about it but this ???

I'm not sure.It's nice but could have been much better, especially the rear look.

Dissappointed.

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 1:53:16 PM

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BMW NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THIS ONE!!!

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eric452 - 7/3/2008 1:59:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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the back looks like a e32 7 series mix wit an LS.
its a nice car but looks to Japanese for BMW.

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PlanB - 7/3/2008 2:01:13 PM

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The press release regarding the its new features is impressive. I just wish its design team had gone in a more bolder direction.

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Htay7500 - 7/3/2008 2:03:13 PM

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front end is a bit ok, rear end is too asian.

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Milton - 7/3/2008 2:15:50 PM

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Oh my God...

THE REAR LOOKS SO FUGLY AND BIG.

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Agent001 - 7/3/2008 2:24:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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Has anyone READ the full release and seen the new features of the car?

New iDrive, Nav, Suspension,Engines, etc...

Click on Official New BMW 7-Series Full Details in article to read.

001

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 4:07:31 PM

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Who cares. The car looks horrible like a total turn off. It's like a Toyota Prius with all those gadgets. Who cares about all that stuff when you put it in the same interior that you have been using for I don't know how many years....

I'M UPSET. AND I WON'T TO KNOW WHAT DESIGN THEME BMW WAS FOLLOWING THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY SURE DID GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE "THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE" INSTEAD IT'S "THE ULTIMATE BORDOM MACHINE," I'LL CHOOSE AN EXCITING 1-SERIES BEFORE I CHOOSE THIS GRANDMA

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 5:33:24 PM

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silver1, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. The new X6 with that engine has been clocked 0-60 in 4.8-5.0 seconds and it weighs 1000lbs more, so this is likely a 4.5-4.8 second car. It's also likely the best handling car in the segment, especially with the rear wheel steering. So just out of curiosity, if this is a "grandma" car, what does that make the rest of the cars in the class, especially the LS?

Teknik - 7/3/2008 5:44:59 PMView My AgentSpace

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Who cares if it is the best handling in its class. People in this class don't care about best handling, that is why the Lexus LS is the #1 seller. This car is a DUD and brings nothing new to the table. The S63 AMG and S65 AMG will murder this thing.

If people want the best handling large car, they will buy the Maserati Quattroporte, which looks 10X better and has 10X more class.

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 6:25:13 PM

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all of which cost anywhere from "a lot more" to "twice as much" more. Yeah, those are direct competitors. And I actually doubt the S63 will murder this at all. Again, if a 1000lb heavier X6 with this engine can hit 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, how quick is this thing going to be? Besides, there's going to be a more powerful version of it coming too.

And FYI, some people do care about the performance, or everyone would just buy LS's.

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 7:02:54 PM

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technik, the LS is the best seller because it's the least expensive and the newest. Period. Every time "the cool new thing" comes out in this class, it leads the segment in sales for awhile until the NEXT "cool new thing" comes out. The previous 7-Series did it, then the redesigned S-class, now the LS. It'll happen again when this new 7-Series comes out, and again when the next redesign comes along by MB, and again with the new LS. That's just how it works.

MunichRob - 7/3/2008 9:08:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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001 I don't care about the features...This car is ugly!

Teknik - 7/3/2008 2:38:39 PMView My AgentSpace

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What an ugly, ugly looking car. Wow, I thought BMW would do better than this!

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MichaelTaylor - 7/3/2008 2:52:23 PM

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Honestly it has nothing on the LS. I can sleep comfortably tonight.

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Star - 7/3/2008 2:54:30 PM

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The new 7 series doesn't look like much but is still way, way better looking and performing than the lowly Lexus LS.

MichaelTaylor - 7/3/2008 3:00:46 PM

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LOL

Give me a break, Star. The Lexus LS has won more awards for its perfection than the BMW company from its beginning until now. The LS is the king in this class. All Lexus can be considered the benchmark in their respective classes.

MichaelTaylor - 7/3/2008 3:00:49 PM

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 4:55:19 PM

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MichaelTaylor, more awards for parking.

528i - 7/3/2008 2:55:46 PMView My AgentSpace

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What hell is this??

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 4:13:18 PM

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I don't know....Hopefully it's a joke and BMW is pulling our leg till it releases the actually picture of the new 7-series....

This is a picture of the current 7 series before they came out with the production model....thats what this is...

Don't worry, BMW would not let us down.....Till we see some pictures from BMW Headquarters....lets keep our fingers cross.

Hopefully we won't be punish with another 5-6 years or so of this thing, if so May God be with us....

JUGNU - 7/3/2008 3:01:23 PMView My AgentSpace

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bad design even for a normal/regular sedan and seeing it comes from BMW makes it worse.

This new 7 looks very bland and ugly, infact i'll place the current 7 series design over this all new one. Not impressed. Why BMW didn't put more CS deign cues other than that big grille. That was such a beutiful design. They should have gone Jaguar route (Concept XF-----> Production XF. very similar).

and btw rear end could also compete for the ugliest rear ever award.
Sorry i find even the gensesis more decent than this totally ugly thing.

Design wise S class, LS and A8 are still far ahead.

JUGNU

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mramezani - 7/3/2008 3:01:51 PM

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Even though the web (inc Autospies) was full of reports indicating the new 7 will launch with 8-speed gearbox, the press release mentions only a 6-speed...
Also I remember when the last 7 was unveiled in 2001, it was one of the first cars to feature Logic7 audio. In other words it was pioneering but what about this? Audi has got B&O and its awesome.
It looks like as it has been the case with BMW for couple of years now, they are after market share and not really interested in giving us something to dream about...

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MichaelTaylor - 7/3/2008 3:14:10 PM

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The Lexus LS has an 8 speed.

So,

LS > 7 series

I am surprised BMW equips this car with 20th century technology...

Agent00J - 7/3/2008 3:55:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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Based on the interior pictures, looks like they moved the window switches back to the center console on either side of the shift lever. I am glad to see that, I miss that from my current generation 3-series.

-00J

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JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 4:27:43 PM

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no they didn't. The closeup of the passenger side door shows a window button on the door sill along with buttons for the sunshades.

Agent00J - 7/3/2008 6:05:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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Look at the drivers door shown in one of the photos, there are no window switches at all leading me to believe they have been moved to the console.

-00J

Agent00J - 7/3/2008 6:07:16 PMView My AgentSpace

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I stand corrected, there is a single window switch, so either the pics are of a right hand drive car, or there is only one window switch on the drivers door.

-00J

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 6:52:56 PM

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actually, just realized what it is -- it's the driver side rear door. So it's possible the window controls up front are in the console, but based on the console photo I don't think they are.

JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 6:59:23 PM

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and considering the photo of the front seat interior shows a window switch on the passenger door armrest, I'm pretty sure the window switches are still on the doors and not on the console.

I don't really care about the window switches, my biggest gripe with the car is I wish BMW would have put the seat controls on the doors as well, a la MB. Those 20-way comfort seats on the 7-Series were already confusing to most folks, and that was when you could physically SEE them. Now they're saying they mounted the controls on the seat (presumably on the side like all their other cars) -- I have no idea how someone is going to figure out those 20-way seat adjusters having to do so by "feel" with their hand between the door and the side of the seat.

texaspride488 - 7/3/2008 4:59:15 PM

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I"m gonna be quite honest here, I like 750i better. THe interior on that is just way too busy.

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chewy - 7/3/2008 5:05:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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exterior is ok, not awesome, it will probably look pretty decent in the real world.

the interior doesn't look like one from a flagship

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