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SURVEY! What are the 5 WORST cars and 5 WORST trucks for sale today?

Agent001 submitted on 10/18/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 9:06:02 PM

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Dear 001,

The 2007 SEMA Auto Show is just around the corner and after the show, I'm going to buy a car or a truck with my modeling money.

So I thought I would write you and your readers for a little advice.

But I don't want to know the best cars and trucks, I want to know what the WORST cars and trucks are on the market today, so a girl like me doesn't end up with a real loser.

Trust me, I'll meet enough of those on the show floor in Vegas in a couple of weeks. ;)

Can't wait to see you and the other 00's.

Love your site!

Don't forget, you owe me a dinner!

Kiss, Kiss...Carolina

Ok gents, let's help a girl out!

Let's pick the 5 worst car and 5 trucks on the market today.

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SURVEY! What are the 5 WORST cars and 5 WORST trucks for sale today?

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— Agent001 (View Profile)

User Comments

Cars:

SubCompact: Chevy Aveo

Compact: Suzuki Aerio

Mid-Size: Mitsubishi Gallant

Full-Size: BMW 7-series

Trucks/SUVs:

Compact: Kia Sportage/Land Rover LR2/Ford Ranger

Mid-Sized: Chevy TrailBlazer/GMC Envoy/Dodge Dakota

Full-Sized: Lincoln Navigator/Cadillac Escalade EXT/Range Rover
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:25:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -11

Uh, u forgot the H2 and H3
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:59:09 PM | | Votes: -2

I considered them, but I thought that I'd be stating the obvious... LOL!
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 12:11:31 AM | | Votes: 1

You put a BMW, particularly the 7-series on the WORST CARS LIST? You're nuts.
— BrandonS (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:51:59 AM | | Votes: -1

Your error here is not allowing others the right to their opinions, without having to answer to the lord automotive-almighty - YOU!

Who are you to question what experiences I, or anyone else has had with any vehicle listed?

My suggestion: Make your own list, and leave it at that.

Sound Good?
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:21:10 AM | | Votes: 8

Ok Carolina,

Here are my choices:

Cars

Acura RL
Chrysler Sebring
Mitsubishi Galant
Ford Focus
Kia Rio

Trucks

Lincoln Navigator
Ford Expedition
Jeep Commander
Jeep Compass
Isuzu Ascender

And regarding dinner...How about one of my favorites on Saturday night? Koi for sushi in the Planet Hollywood Hotel.

001
— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:26:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 10

Acura bad? This is a first.The rest of the list is very believable.
— truckmen (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:57:36 AM | | Votes: 1

Thats what I said...How can you say an Acura is bad. The RL is not a bad car.
— courtstone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 8:09:07 AM | | Votes: 3

Isuzu's arent sold in the US anymore. That's a Chevy Trailblazer rebadge, FYI. And I agree the compass sucks, but its a car!
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 8:21:29 AM | | Votes: 2

I'm with 001 on that. It's not a bad car, just extremely overpriced for what it is.
— budfrogS4 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 9:04:29 AM | | Votes: 3

Agent 001

I like your list on a whole with a big exception to the Acura RL. I was going to leave my comments to the side on this one, but you have got to be kidding me. The RL is one of the most under appreciated cars on the market. I will put the RL against ANYTHING on the road for 55k or under.
As for my list:
10-15k sedan Chevy Aveo
15-25k sedan Chevy Malibu
25-35k sedan Lincoln LS/zephyr (whatever theyre calling that turd)
35-45k sedan Cadillac CTS
45k and up sedan Cadillac STS
as for trucks, women drive lexus RX's and not trucks

v-10 NSX
— jsell (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:31:51 AM | | Votes: -4

lol, you are calling the Acura RL overpriced? If you want overpriced look at BMW and Mecedes Benz. The RL is worlds better than 80% of the car population. Just because it's not as good as the rest of the cars Acura has in its lineup, doesn't make it a bad car.

The RL is one of the best engineered cars on the market. It just needs to get a little more agressive styling and a V8 which DOES NOT make it a bad car because it's lacking in those areas. You're BS 001.
— aznstuart (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:47:13 PM | | Votes: -1

lol, you are calling the Acura RL overpriced? If you want overpriced look at BMW and Mecedes Benz. The RL is worlds better than 80% of the car population. Just because it's not as good as the rest of the cars Acura has in its lineup, doesn't make it a bad car.

The RL is one of the best engineered cars on the market. It just needs to get a little more agressive styling and a V8 which DOES NOT make it a bad car because it's lacking in those areas. You're BS 001.
— aznstuart (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:47:19 PM | | Votes: -1

The 7 Series is not good.

It is great.

Put down the crack pipe.
— 530N52 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:54:31 PM | | Votes: -1

Okay, but the LS, A8, XJ and S-Class are all better.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:01:38 PM | | Votes: 0

I wouldnt really say the A8 or the jag are better...
— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2007 3:56:55 PM | | Votes: 0

The 7 Series has not beaten the A8 in a single comparison test. Not ONE. It's practically common sense that it's simply a better car. It looks better, is a few leaps ahead in interior execution, drives just as well and... well, it's better.

The XJ is an unappreciated gem. You don't know much about it, obviously, but it drives better than the 7 Series.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 12:06:23 AM | | Votes: 2

WORST CARS:

Volkswagen New Beetle - it's old already. Volkswagen has milked this car for all it's worth and it's just getting annoying now.

Hyundai Tiburon - it's not a sports car. Hyundai claims it is, but no self respecting sports car has a 172 horsepower V6 as the most powerful engine.

Saturn Ion - are you kidding me? This car may have looked good in the late 80's or early 90's, but this car looked outdated since it first came out. It was old news before you could buy it.

Chevrolet Malibu Maxx - a station wagon in disguise.

Toyota Prius - it's a fine car, but it's started a hippie movement. I can't go anywhere without tree huggers telling me I need to repent and drive a hybrid.

WORST TRUCKS:

Mazda Truck - this isn't really good for anything. It's not powerful, so there's not much you can tow with it and it's got a small interior, so having people with you is a pain.

Lincoln Mark LT - owners of this are too scared to treat this like a truck because it's a "luxury" truck. Trucks are meant to be rugged and owners of these are too old to be rugged or too scared of hurting their slightly upscale F-150.

Ford Explorer Sport Trac - small bed. Not very useful to have.

Cadillac Escalade EXT - same as Lincoln Mark LT

Mitsubishi Raider - I just picked this one because I can't think of any more trucks that have problems. This one has a minor one that I'll point out: it's got a V8 engine and the truck is too small to put it to use. Usually with this size of truck, a large V6 is as far as you want to go because the frame of the truck is too small to tow anything major. It's a minor problem, but not a big deal really.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:40:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

i agree with the mark lt, its nothing more than a ford f150 with lincoln badges,and some extra chrome literally. there is no reason it shouldnt be used as a truck the escalade ext is more for someone who doesnt really need a truck but would like the extra usability of one, as well as the extra space to me it makes alot more sense.
— bmwdrvr (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:45:47 PM | | Votes: 1

Yeah, but owners of the Escalade EXT don't use the extra usability of a truck. In fact, most of them just get it to show off to their friends and "pimp it out".
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:50:25 PM | | Votes: 0

The Prius is faulted because of the behaviors of their owners?

In that case, the absolute WORST vehicles EVER are the Hummer H2 and H3.
— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 10:19:48 PM | | Votes: 7

Fine, forget the Prius, instead I say the Chrysler PT Cruiser.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:13:57 PM | | Votes: 1

New Beetle? Tiburon? Both of those are very good performers and you seem to dislike them on image alone. That's not the criterion for a bad car.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:32:24 PM | | Votes: -2

Uhm, sports cars are not only about horse power, they are first and foremost about handling. The Tiburon handles better than most Lexi and Toyotas hands down.

Just ask Jeremy Clarkson and his comparo of the lexus SC and the Tiburon :)
— vdiv (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:36:31 AM | | Votes: -2

If you have a sports car, you need power to use it. I don't want to buy an underpowered sports car because it handles well, I want power with it. The Tiburon is lacking power.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:04:52 PM | | Votes: 0

Answer this with a straight face, then: would you have put the Toyota Celica, Acura RSX or Scion tC on your "worst cars" list? I don't think so. They're all the same concept.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:48:11 PM | | Votes: -1

lexusis350- Mazda MX-5/Miata has never had a lot of power but has gained much respect in terms of a driver's car.
— r_driver04 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:24:28 PM | | Votes: 2

S4, I never liked the Toyota Celica, Acura RSX, or the tC.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:38:14 PM | | Votes: -1

How could you not like the RSX? Wow.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/20/2007 11:08:21 AM | | Votes: -1

Because honestly, RSX drivers think they're bad because they have an Acura, hoping that the general public don't know that they're, in some cases, cheaper than a Civic. Plus, they buy them to turn them into a rice rocket. I like the Civic Si a lot more than the RSX.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/20/2007 4:58:33 PM | | Votes: 1

WORST CARS:
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE-out dated and not classic
PT Cruiser-Still a Neon under the skin
All Caddilac cars- GM does not get the details consistently right to compete with Euro and Asian makers
Dodge Avenger- not sure why they made this

Trucks:
Caddilac Trucks- I hope the badges and chrome stick really good, someone might notice it's not a caddy.
H2,H3 More bad ideas in production.
Lincoln Trucks - too much 60s DNA
Ford Sport Track over engineered, bad result
Ford/Mazda small pickups from the 80's- they still make these?

— dodgedart (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 10:49:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

ALL Cadillacs?

The STS, SRX, XLR and (especially) the 2008 CTS are all very good cars.

I'm guessing that you just don't like Cadillac, and it obviously has little do do with the design/quality/performance their vehicles.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:10:38 AM | | Votes: 3

Your error here is not allowing others the right to their opinions, without having to answer to the lord automotive-almighty - YOU!

Who are you to question what experiences I, or anyone else has had with any vehicle listed?

My suggestion: Make your own list, and leave it at that.

Sound Good?
— 528i (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:51:58 AM | | Votes: 1

^^^^ Been There... Done That - All Present And/Or Accounted For!

What I suggest To You, Sir;

Formulate You Own Responses/Thoughts Rather Than Plagiarizing Others?

In addition: If you're going to quote someone's words/posts, at least have the dignity/respect to use quotation marks.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:40:37 PM | | Votes: 2

I agree with DaHarder. The new Cadillacs are fantastic and you are the only person in this forum to put one on your list.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:36:44 PM | | Votes: 1

528 may have forgotten to give credit where it was due, but you've gotta admit, that was funny ;)
— Jonathan (View Profile)

Posted on 10/20/2007 11:36:46 PM | | Votes: 1

Cars:

Susuki Reno
Suzuki Forenza
Mitsubishi Gallant
Nissan Maxima
Lexus LS460

Trucks/SUVs:

Kia Sportage
Suzuki XL7
Nissan Frontier
Honda Ridgeline
Toyota Tundra
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:09:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

In other words, anything Japanese is bad? EL34, I remember about 6 months ago you were considering getting the LS 460.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:14:55 PM | | Votes: 7

After driving the LS460, I couldn't help but conclude that it is easily one of the finest examples of luxury/cruising engineering ever... Simply Equisite!

It's the automotive equivalent of a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Grand Reveil Timepiece... Not for everyone, but those that 'get it' will be justly rewarded.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:19:28 AM | | Votes: 7

DaHarder, how can you compare the Lexus LS460 to a watch that cost $20,000 when the clock in the car cost no more than a $125 dollars?

Lord have mercy!
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:15:30 PM | | Votes: -6

My Point (since you obviously didn't get it) :They're both obviously made to very exacting standards, and that attention to detail is evident in every aspect of their design/manufacturing/execution.

It's not about what timepiece is in the dash, it's about the QUALITY.

I have to ask - Does one really have to explain everything thing one posts in here - Are people really this inept?
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:47:37 PM | | Votes: 4

Note:

Am I the only one detecting some serious Dissociative Identity Disorder issues going on here?

43LE/EL34... (Hmmm?)
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:59:17 PM | | Votes: -1

DaHarder,

Spy vs. Spy

http://www.bloglubbock.com/custimages/spy%20vs%20spy.bmp
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:06:45 PM | | Votes: 1

Worst Cars:

Kia Rio
Ford Focus
Chevy Impala
Jaguar X-Type (don't be tempted by the cheap leases on this one-- they're there for a reason)
BMW 7 Series

Worst Trucks/SUVs:

Isuzu i-Series
Jeep Compass
Hummer H2/H3
Dodge Ram
Porsche Cayenne V6 (I know I'm going to be blasted for this one)
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:36:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

No you won't.

The V6 Cayenne IS rubbish!

001
— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:43:25 PM | | Votes: 3

What's up with this BMW 7-Series not a good car?

I can't believe what I'm reading.

:(
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:58 PM | | Votes: -1

Yeah, I would replace that 7-series with a Audi S4.

JUST KIDDING
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 12:01:55 AM | | Votes: 0

The 7 Series isn't a bad car by any means... but I had to pick the "worst" full-size luxury sedan, and honestly, I would take any other full-sizer over the 7 Series. A8, LS, S-Class, XJ, you name it.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 12:36:35 AM | | Votes: 3

With the exception of looking as hideous as any vehicle has ever looked, the 2008 Cayenne V6 is quite the performer.

Amazing what a new engine can do.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:22:48 AM | | Votes: 1

Again, another person putting the 7-series on this list. Mind boggling. And the Cayenne? If you're going to have the audacity to bash a car like the 7 (and Cayenne) and even acknowledge that, explain yourself.
— BrandonS (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:54:12 AM | | Votes: -2

Alright, Brandon, I will. Just for you.

Ironically, the reason the Cayenne V6(!, not the whole model line) is on there is because of a BMW. I drove the '07 X5 4.8i and the '08 Cayenne S on the same day... I was super-impressed with the BMW's handling, exhaust note, acceleration, luxury and perfect comfort/sportiness balance. On the other hand, the Porsche was underwhelming with its relatively cheap interior, overpriced features, unexciting demeanor and an overall disappointing execution. I've read so many raving reviews on the thing, and I have driven the Cayenne V6 and Cayenne S before (both '06s)--none of them have impressed me, not in the least. But I didn't have the heart to put the eight-cylinder models on the "worst SUVs" list.

As for the 7 Series? This was another BMW dealership experience. I drove the 535xi on another day, and again, very impressive. Smooth, powerful engine, very comfortable interior (much improved for '08!), better styling and a level of competence that I haven't seen come from the E-Class or A6. Then, when we got back to the dealer I sat in the 7 Series... and it felt cheap. Just underwhelming. The 5 Series handily beats it in interior execution. One more thing... notice my second post in this thread? The 7 Series isn't a bad car, not at all. But I would take any of the competition over it in a heartbeat.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:53:24 PM | | Votes: 2

I agree. Buy a Touareg instead of the Porsche and save some cheese. Either go turbo or go home.
— r_driver04 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:29:02 PM | | Votes: 2

Woah I've obviously been away for awhile. I'm reading through some of the posts suprised to see the same people with some very different opinions.

The one that caught me most of gaurd was the opinion shared by S4. Since when do you hate the 7-series so much? I can recall you saying you'd have the most difficult time choosing between the 3 major German luxo-barges, in which I'm sure you know I'm talking about.

Now you're talking down on the 7-series like you did the LS when it was released. Which is it S4?
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2007 2:59:18 AM | | Votes: -1

I don't "hate" the 7. It's just the worst car in its class. I know that doesn't mean much--if there's any class you have to be "worst" in, it's that one--but I just wouldn't waste my money on it. Sitting in it at the dealer was an eye-opener.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 12:07:55 AM | | Votes: 1

Too many to mention, but the 7 series, you are kidding right?
Cayenne V6,I give up. ( it's Porsche DNA, how bad can it be?)
— xj13 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:12:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Too many to mention, but the 7 series, you are kidding right?
Cayenne V6,I give up. ( it's Porsche DNA, how bad can it be?)

Cayenne: Heavy, not fuel efficient. Ugly.

Porsche 911: Light, fuel efficient. beautiful.

Don't seem to come from the same DNA.
— 07mcs (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:55:19 AM | | Votes: 4

Read my reply to BrandonS for an explanation.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:55:42 PM | | Votes: 1

Cars:
Ssangyong Chairman (vulgar styling)
Ssangyong Musso (vulgar styling, again)
Ssangyong Rexton (awful look)
Antyhing else Ssangyong (they over-do what people consider a taste in cars)
Ford Ka (How could this car, even from Ford, reach the production line?)

Trucks:
Porsche Cayenne (Rip-off, buy a Volkswagen Touareg - if they dropped the price I would not put it in this list)
Land Rover LR3 (I can't believe it is Europe's most popular SUV, I would pay $1 million for the Range Rover supercharged over this any day)
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— nine (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:30:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Worst cars
Anything Susuki
dodge, anything not full size
mitibutsi
ford focus
chevy cobalt

worst trucks
Range Rover {unless you are a Billionare}unreliable $$
Toyota FJ, frames crack when taken off road and many more problems
Dodge Dacota, too many to list!
Dodge 1/2 ton good for nothing although the safest truck.

— truckmen (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 7:08:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

There's no such thing as a bad car, really, unless we're talking made in China.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 7:38:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

i concur.
— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 6:34:53 PM | | Votes: 1

I don't have the time to post a list but I have to agree with a few of the other posters. The 7 Series does belong on the list. IMO its just not a good car.
T
— TauronB2G (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 7:53:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Some of mine dont exist anymore, but I have to mention them:

Pontiac Aztec
PT Cruiser
Chevy HHR
Chevy (whatever that retro half truck thing is)
Chevy Impala
Pontiac G6, GXP, GZX, Grand Prix, Am, Nascar, Mullet, Jeff Gordon, that thing from 90's that looked like the batmobile
Saturn Ion

Old GM SUV's
Envoy, Trailblazer, Ascender, etc.
Dodge Durango
Dodge Dakota
Lincoln Mark LT
Navigator

Any large gas guzzling SUVs that are NOT off road capable.

— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 8:37:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

No, I'm anit-garbage.

Good American cars/trucks:

CTS
Silverado/F-150
Wrangler
New Saturns (for design, not sure about performance, quality, etc.)
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:49:16 AM | | Votes: 2

I concur, although you forgot Volkswagon and Susuki, the two most unreliable companies around. I think Susuki was the worst on Consumers list?
— truckmen (View Profile)

Posted on 10/25/2007 6:15:21 AM | | Votes: 1

Let's see...

PT Cruiser - drives like a bathtub on stroller wheels
Magnum - simply b/c dodge tried to pass this off as a manly station wagon
any Chery car - need i say more?
bringing back the DeLorean - icon but wow it's slow
LS460h - I'm gonna get rocked for this one...but what's up with the load weight, tiny trunk and virtually no improvement on mpg

any Hummer
4 door Wrangler (a ton of ppl are gonna disagree here)
Cayenne
any flexfuel truck/suv
HHR
— budfrogS4 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 9:19:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Fact Check:

Actually, Chrysler/Dodge never referred to or marketed the Magnum as a station wagon, and In Fact, said that it was a Sports-Tourer/5-Door vehicle, NOT a Station Wagon.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:54:57 PM | | Votes: 1

You mean LS600HL.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:01:37 PM | | Votes: 0

Worst Cars Ever?

1.Anything made by - Kia
2.Anything made by - Saturn
3.Everything with that "new Chevy look" (PT 4.Cruiser,HHR)
5.Oldsmobile as a whole

Way to go to USA !!!

— WayneDash (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 9:28:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

The Saturn Sky is VERY nice and Saturn's suv's have come a long way in the styling segment. I have actually considered purchasing both a saturn SUV and a Sky.
— 0to60 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 8:38:16 PM | | Votes: 1

one car that should be on the list is the:

Mazda RX8 -- fun to drive & great styling, but to many complaints/recalls/problems

— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:12:22 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

That doesn't make it the worst. If reliability was the only criterion, we'd have Range Rovers on all of our lists. But the RX-8 is still a sweet car that has no place here.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:58:14 PM | | Votes: 1

True, everyone has a different idea of what a good car and also a bad one. I guess to be truly bad it would have to be unsafe, uncomfortable, unreliable, have poor build quality and look terrible. Mine would have to be the Ssangyong Rodius: http://tinyurl.com/35gs8l
Don't think it's sold in America though?
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:09:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Worst Cars:

American stuff bar Corvette

Worst Trucks:

American stuff bar Tahoe (it's an honest, practical SUV. You get what it says on the tin)
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:03:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6

That bloody rubbish english food has given you quite the temper, quite.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:51:57 AM | | Votes: 1

Dude, The American Revolutionary War was fought way back 1775–1783...

America Won, Please - Let It Go Already!
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:03:11 PM | | Votes: 2

I have forgotten more about English cars than this poster knows about American cars. This negative opinion of American cars is worthless. To blanket bash vehicles, one should have SOME experience driving them.
— Shredmo (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:07:00 PM | | Votes: 2

Well if we were including cars that aren't sold new anymore....

Anything from BMC
All Rovers
The old Freelander
Old Discovery

Other terrible cars as well:
Jag X type
Jag S type
Ssangyongs in general
Korean Chevrolets (which we get in Europe)
The VW Fox.
Protons.

And fine, as for good cars, add the new CTS.

The rest of Americana is all rubbish. Name a good one!? Ford Focus? DTS? The Dodge Nitro? Yeah, sure. All others are far from best in class. It's no wonder Toyota's doing so well. Decades of under engineering take their toll. Think of Lincoln or Chrysler or Mercury or Jeep! What happened to their glorious history? Their reputations? Cadillac's recovering, but still...

I'm not being anti-American or whatever, and saying I'm bitter about the revolutionary war? I of course care that much about the 200 year old past that I'm campaigning against American cars now? They used to be great! 50's Cadillacs, 60's Lincolns! Pierce Arrows, Duesenburgs, Studebakers! They have just completely lost the plot...like I said, name 1 American car that you can say is best in its class. You can't.

Bloody rubbish English food? You stuck in the 70s, along with GM and Ford? And of course, American food is so exciting and not bland or vanilla at all. I mean McDonalds is just the height of good eating...
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:42:23 PM | | Votes: 1

And I think if you look at everyone else's posts, you'll see a large quantity are American. They only sell them to Americans for a reason: nobody else wants them.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:46:16 PM | | Votes: 1

Tacoma, Pathfinder? You smokin' crack??
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:52:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I believe the Tacoma part, it's simply scary.
— vdiv (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 12:18:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I agree with the 4 door Wrangler. I do, however, love the 2 door version :)
— Shredmo (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:08:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

What's wrong with the four-door Wrangler? I've seen it on two lists now. I like the idea a lot.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:59:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

DAEWOO!
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:53:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Those are called Chevrolets in Europe.
Has not helped American cars' reputations..
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:44:36 PM | | Votes: 1

Who puts the Acura RL on the worst list, that's just stupidity. One of the most underrated cars for it's price range. Has features that you pay well over 60k for in a luxury car. Moving on,

Worst Cars:
-Kia Rio

-Ford Focus

-Suzuki Forenza

-Chysler Sebring

-Lincoln Town Car (starts at 42k and no update for the last 10 years, come on!)

Worst Trucks:
-Lincoln Mark LT (yes it's a F-150, but when have you seen one, ever)

-Suzuki Grand Vitara

-Suzuki XL-7

-Ford Ranger (time for an update if you want to compete with the Colorado/Tacoma/Frontier)

-Mitsubishi Raider (again, I know its based off the Colorado, but I have never ever seen one on the road)

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 12:06:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Fact Check:

The Mitsubishi Raider is based on the Dodge Dakota.

Note; The (new) dodge Dakota also made my list.
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:59:05 PM | | Votes: 1

The Towncar HAS been updated within the past 10 years. Granted, it looks a fair amount like the one that preceded it.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:23:00 PM | | Votes: 2

What's wrong with the XL-7? Underrated. I would say the Ascender is far worse, if you even know what it is.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:01:01 PM | | Votes: 1

Took me some time to think it out and narrow my vast list of options. But here it goes.

Cars:
Suzuki Forenza
Chrysler Sebring
Mercury Grand Marquis
Pontiac Grand Prix
Toyota Solara

Trucks/SUV's:
Jeep Commander
Hummer H2/3
Buick Rendezvous - if they're still on the lot as '07 models they count, right?
Enclave/Outlook/Arcadia
Pontiac Torrant

— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:10:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

There's no way the Hummers can be on this list because people that own them love them.

Now I should have put the Acura RDX on my list because that has turned out to be a big boondoggle for Honda.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:19:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

The Pontiac Aztek had one of the highest scores in its class according to the American Customer Satisfaction Index. Everyone loved them too but somehow, that doesn't convince me it was a good car.
— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:37:44 PM | | Votes: 4

What...Willy Loman is in the business of judging cars now?
— flozel1 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:38:05 PM | | Votes: 1

Regarding Hummers: Most people that I know who own them, including Scott Thompson aka Carrot Top, aren't that impressed overall, especially with the quality of the interiors.

Note: And many have serious self-esteem issues... LOL!
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:08:25 PM | | Votes: 3

Then how come I never see the RDX on the streets?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:08:50 PM | | Votes: 1

Hey agent 001, if you don't 'seal the deal' then let me have a crack! ;-)

Anyways it is very hard to get any opinions on here due to fanboys over polluting the site. So I would not get much here. Anyways stick to CR, JD Powers, and other experts to get their opinions. At least they are much less biased then some idiots on here.
— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:20:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

'Idiot' is a rather rude/inappropriate term to use, but the Fan-Boyism in here is rather annoying at times, especially given that many on/in here have never seen/driven/owned the vehicles that they are so adamantly passionate about.

Pretty silly isn't it?
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:33:34 PM | | Votes: 3

Some of the cars people have listed as worst have received good reviews by top auto mags.

Such as the Acadia/Outlook (Motor weeks best in class). Cadillac CTS (Several Best in class awards and interior awards).

Notice Fans boys get upset when anyone mentions Japanese or German cars...lol. Tools...

This will be a shock to fanboys:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071011/BUSINESS01/710110410/1014
— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:29:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

And a version of this same tranny is available on ALL version of the 2008 Chevy Malibu as well!
— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 2:36:51 PM | | Votes: 1

Threepoint1415926 - 10/19/2007 1:10:00 PM+1 Boost
Took me some time to think it out and narrow my vast list of options. But here it goes.

Cars: ---------->>Toyota Solara??

(Walks over to car and kicks the Hell out of it!)
— WayneDash (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:13:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I can loan you a sledge if your foot begins to hurt :)
— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:50:20 PM | | Votes: 2

worst:
CARS-----
1.bmw 7series
2.all kias
3. audi S8
4. mercedes c class (90's model) ( cuz i have one)
5. nissan gloria

dont know anything about trucks.
— c36amg (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:42:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I dont understand.... you own a 202, obviously pride yourself on it if your handle is any indication and yet it's on your worst list? I would put a 203 way ahead of 202 for candidates on that list...
— Threepoint1415926 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:56:37 PM | | Votes: 0

Okay, I would definitely not put the 7 Series as the absolute worst car, and the S8, LOL! Not even close. I have no idea where you're getting this list from. C-Class???
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:01:57 PM | | Votes: 1

some of u are smoking crack, lol i did this quick, these are just cars i pick are just pointless, btw as a 6yr old 745i driver, the only promblem i had was i-drive
1. C class
2. Altima coupe
3. Audi A6
4. All Chevy beside the new malibi - gotta rent one
5. All Jaguar beside the XJ/coupe

1. ML/GL Class
2. LR3
3. X3/X5
4. Lexus GX
5. Any Hummer
— Denali (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:23:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

"btw as a 6yr old 745i driver, the only promblem i had was i-drive"

The people who are putting the 7 on their lists (like me) don't dislike the car. I would love an Alpina B7. But I had to pick the worst car in the class; that's it. You wouldn't even have to say you had any problems if you had gotten an S500 or waited for the A8L.

What are the C-Class and A6 doing there? GL-Class?! Motor Trend Truck of the Year! X5!!! I can kind of understand the X3, but the X5 is fabulous... and the GX, although it's ugly, doesn't deserve to be there either.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:03:58 PM | | Votes: 1

Worst Cars as follows:
Subcompact: Kia Rio
Compact: Saturn Ion
Hybrid: Wouldn't be interesting to see in the future which one will be the worst?
Mid-Size: Suzuki Frontera (It is nothing but an old Daewoo Leganza!!)
Near Luxury: Hmmm perhaps that Hyundai Azera..What is the point? Put out a lil more cash and opt for something like the base C-Class or something pre-owned.
Luxury: Cadillac DTS, just too darn long in the tooth, very 70's and 80's in its design concept. Big 'ole luxo barge...
Sports Car: Wow a hard one to choose....
— atomicbri (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:04:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

One of the best cars in the history of the automobile industry is the current BMW 7-Series.

And don't you forget it ;)
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:10:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

the best?

SubCompact: Honda Fit

Compact: IDK yet...

Mid-Size (family car): Honda Accord, Mazda 6, Subaru Legacy

Full-size: MB S-class

SUVs/trucks:

1.MB GL
2.Toyota Land Cruiser
3.LR3
4.silverado/sierra
5. Honda CRV

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:03:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I shoulda added the Subaru forester on this list
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/20/2007 8:13:11 AM | | Votes: 2

Whoa I've obviously been away for a while. I'm reading through some of the posts surprised to see the same people with some very different opinions.

The one that caught me most of guard was the opinion shared by S4. Since when do you hate the 7-series so much? I can recall you saying you'd have the most difficult time choosing between the 3 major German luxo-barges, in which I'm sure you know I'm talking about.

Just for the record, any head-head comparison I've seen or read between the S, 7, A8, LS & XJ, has placed the LS or XJ in the last place positions, the A8 or S in the top two positions, & the 7 somewhere in the middle.

Now you're talking down on the 7-series like you did the LS when it was released. Which is it S4?
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2007 3:36:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Read my reply to your OTHER comment...

I don't care where they placed them. The LS and XJ have definitely not been the bottom two in every test, BTW. But still, that's just what I think. Here are my class rankings:

1. S-Class
1.5. A8 (too close to call it #2)
3. XJ
4. LS
5. 7 Series

Note that I don't dislike any of these cars; that's just what I want, in order. I would BUY the A8/S8 over the rest, but the S-Class has an edge. It's just the image that turns me away.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 12:11:47 AM | | Votes: 1

Sorry for the double post, I posted the other comment pre-maturely.
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 6:22:18 PM | | Votes: 1

anything from GM Ford and Chrylser
— Tripleonefive (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2007 12:33:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Based on looks only.

Jeep Commander, H3, Cayenne, Navigator, BMW X3

BMW 5, BMW 3, BMW Z4, Chevy Aveo, Kia Amanti
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/21/2007 1:48:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Odd, not a Japanese car in sight...
— Kinger (View Profile)

Posted on 10/24/2007 8:24:01 AM | | Votes: 1

Here is my list for cars:

-Mercedes CLS (no matter what people say, the proportions are way off, looks like a squashed bug!)

-Toyota Corolla (I just hate it because its so common)

-Lexus LS600h (most pointless vehicle ever? Capacity load something to laugh at)

-Jaguar X-type (dont get me started on this one!)

-Lexus SC430 (bathtub)

Trucks:

-Porsche Cayenne (toad)

-BMW X3

-Hummer H2

-4 door Jeep Wrangler (worst testdrive ever, slower than a prius)

-Toyota FJ Cruiser (retarded version of hummer, the taillights are so close to fall of, and the interior defines CHEAP)

Note: as for the ugliest lineup as a whole, no one deserves the award better than Ssangyoung with the most hideous looking van, and SUV.

— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 10/22/2007 6:01:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

worst car=where do i start? LoL too many to list.

worst truck=Titan, Tundra, Sierra, Silverado, The new fords due to the ugly ass front ends (otherwise a great truck), and the new mitsubishi piece of crap truck.

okay everyone, forget about the worst cars, how about the best?

IN MY OWN OPINION!!!!!
Car=the new Mugen Civic Si, and the new Shelby GT-500. =D

Truck=there isnt one NEW truck that i like. Maybe the new ford F-series if they had a different front end.

But pretty much all of the new cars are ugly. For example, the old evo's and sti's look way better than the new evo's and the upcoming sti. Also, the entire F-series lineup looked the best from '93-'96 and from '99-'06 until they came out with the hideous front end just like the chevys/gmc's. I think all new vehicles are going downhill in styling....especially hybrids! haha

— 2008MugenSi (View Profile)

Posted on 11/16/2007 1:20:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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