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USA Today says you will pay a lot for the Lexus LS600h but it delivers

Agent001 submitted on 5/11/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 12:15:25 PM

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The power of a V-12, Lexus says, and the fuel economy you'd get from a big-displacement V-6 in an all-wheel-drive car.

Translated, about 20 miles per gallon on the windows sticker, about 18 on the byways around here, including a spirited frolic on the snaking Angeles Crest Highway. On which, it should be noted, the car handled more crisply than you'd expect, given the non-sporting reputation of Lexus' big cars.

At that level of price and performance, who cares about mileage, you might ask. Why, says Lexus, those super-affluent buyers it is trying to lure. They want to feel good, or less bad, about their luxury car indulgence. Hardly a 50-mpg Prius, but the 600h does get better mileage than its rivals, and poops 70% fewer objectionables out the tailpipes, Lexus explains. Less effluent from the affluent.

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USA Today says you will pay a lot for the Lexus LS600h but it delivers

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See, Lexus is the future of all humanity.

Sometime in the future, aliens will come to earth, only to bask in the glory that is Lexus.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 12:32:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

I own an LS460 but it is not the future of all humanity my little friend. I also own an S550 and it's great. Lexus knows what kind of competition they have to face. It's not easy in this segment. Their all such great cars.
— Agent63 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/12/2007 6:43:40 AM | | Votes: 3

"....my little friend..." LOL!
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/12/2007 8:49:09 AM | | Votes: 1

Hi all, long time reader, first time commenter. ive been coming on this website for over a year now, and all i see is toyolex ppl Bashing ppl who preffer german cars. and i also noticed the "toyolex" crowd cant spell for jack SH*T. typos on top of typos.

Ohh and thats all lexus have going on for themselves, technology. Bland interior and exterior designs, dry and boring ride/handling. and in the end, u still end up with a toyota.
seriously, when u tell someone u drive a BMW, Audi, MB, or Porsche, the other person will know & think u drive a BMW, Audi, MB, or Porsche.
But when you drive a Lexus, most ppl i know will go "ohh Thats a Toyota, great reliability!" in their heads.
Plus the presitge and heritage that comes with most german cars cant be matched by any of the Japanese Lux Sedans. So PLEASE, if all you toyolex ppl have inferiority complex, go to your shrink. dont take it out on the inventors of the Luxury Sedans. Its not all Technology.

PS Lexusnumberone4ever, no offense but u have no creativity, hence the nick, and buying a 70K+ car isnt the way to save the environment or humanity, if u really wanna do that, go buy a prius, corolla, or civic
— SoCalGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 3:22:25 PM | | Votes: 2

"...i also noticed the "toyolex" crowd cant spell for jack SH*T.."

I see sire, but could you start typing "You" instead of "u"?
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/15/2007 5:59:06 AM | | Votes: 2

do you REALLY want a list?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:09:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

all of the above. plus the other germans.

i have heard nothing of this v12 from lexus.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:14:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

"NOW BEFORE YOU ANSEWER LEXUS EVEN STATED THEMSELVES THAT THE ONLY CARS THAT CAN EVEN COMPARE IS THE MERCEDES-BENZ'S, MAYBACH, ROLLS ROYCE, AND BENTLEY..."

please show me this quote from lexus
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:33:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

scared of a car? what are you talking about? it's a car.

and i don't own a v12, anyhow. i never would. it's utterly glutonous.

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:37:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

and please show any reference to a v10 or v12 from lex
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:41:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

i don't know if youre joking or delerious
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 4:04:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

or maybe some sedatives...
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 4:34:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

There is no V12 in the works.
— mitchatlexusofmarin (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 8:19:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

houstoncutie, mitchatlexusofmarin WORKS AT LEXUS OF MARIN. I would think that he knows more than you about Lexus!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:07:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

it amazes me how much of an idiot you are. i don't know where to start. ..but here's a hint for you...a CVT is a TRANSMISSION, not an engine. you MORON!

now go to bed, Junior high starts early in the morning.

(you know, now that i think about it, maybe if we all typed in caps he'd understand more...naah.)
— DallasMR2 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 8:52:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

It sure is nice to see more pictures of my home, but who parked that Lexus in my driveway???
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:06:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8

I've been in homes in Newport Beach and Laguna Beach that look very similar.

But, the Lexus doesn't fit the home.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:57:59 PM | | Votes: -5

Why do seem to almost be driven to try to impress people with yourself?
— mitchatlexusofmarin (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 8:21:33 PM | | Votes: 4

More non auto related photos of chandliers, talbes, sofas available at homeandgarden.com. Why is USA Today showing all those misc photos? Seems rather irrelavant?
— markusck (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:20:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

001 took those photos at an LS600hL event, and randomly posted them on this article.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:08:04 PM | | Votes: 2

Sorry EL34, those are my Lexus' on your driveway ...a home you use to own. Now your wife and my kids now live there. I was passing by that day droping off my love offerings...LMAO!!!
— BigShow50 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:30:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9

That's OK, I have the S600 parked in my new driveway ;)
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 1:59:21 PM | | Votes: -7

Another great review of a wonderful automobile.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 2:02:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

The second paragraph sums up the idea behind the LS hybrid. It's amazing that MOST auto reviewers can recognize what Lexus is doing, but MOST readers on this site cannot...
— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 2:07:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

whatever youre smoking, keep it away from the youth of america
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:15:55 PM | | Votes: 2

your praising concept cars that haven't even been confirmed for production. are you trying to mock lexus fans?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:17:11 PM | | Votes: 4

yay!!! you found the "caps lock" key. oh, we have a party planned for you! with pizza, and cake, and balloons! maybe a clown too!
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:19:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Lexus sold about 800 cars last month in the UK. Audi sold about 7500.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 7:44:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Percentages don't matter you idiot. they're not going to grow 20%/month forever. I've been making fun of the Lexus fans who are like you, but youre taking this too far... i really do have a GX470 and its nice, but its not the best SUV in the world.
— GX470guy (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 1:41:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

I would like to see what would fit in the itty bitty Lexus trunk?

At least I know I could fit many signs in the trunk of an R-Class.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:02:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6

But, you would buy from me even if I was driving a '72 Ford station wagon with wood trim.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:19:28 PM | | Votes: -3

are you drunk already? it's 3:30pm et.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:40:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

oh, i agree about gm. but the flying triangle reference was ... interesting. what else do you know about the tr-3b?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:51:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

"....TOP SECRET U.S. AIRCRAFT TR-3B THAT GOES HYPERSONIC SPEED OF MACH 9 AT 6,849 MPH..."

Now I've heard everything. Tell your psychiatrist you need more sedatives.

Mach 9 does NOT equal 6849 mph.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/12/2007 8:53:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

You still have a decade to go before you actually mature with your English.

Mach 9 equals 6966 mph.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:03:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Up in the stratosphere where the temp's like 0 C or 32F, the speed of sound is 774 mph = Mach 1.

— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:35:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

btw, cutie: you're not from the US are you? Do you live in Japan.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:37:02 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I still like the car a lot, but I wish they would've done the blue logo trim differently. Looks like the spray can thing in Micosoft Paint made it.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 3:54:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

the other day i found myself behind an ls460, it still had no license plate. i did like the end and admired the exhaust. when the car went over a small dip on the street, it started to take several jumps up and down. and this was a fine paved street and i could hardly feel the dip when i went over it in my car. but the lexus kept wobling up and down a bit. so i was like, wtf? what would happend to this ls600h when it goes over that same small dip on a well paved street. will it slams in back end, scrape the underside (batteries???) cause a major rebound and lift the rear end into the air while the driver gawks and rams right into it.
— WeAreMad (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 5:43:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Sick of this...

Does ANBYODY really expect this car to get a bad review? Did ANYBODY on the site say they "hated" this car? It's a damn top-of-the-line luxury sedan! So what if some people (myself included) prefer a Mercedes S600? Nobody is going to convince anyone of anything- we're all too stubborn! Get that through your thick skulls!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/11/2007 11:35:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

my eyes! the caps lock hurts my eyes!
— gsh23 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/12/2007 12:30:23 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

"houstoncutie2000" I was watching that show "intervention" on A&E today, & I swear your delusional rants remind me of the feature documented addict...I believe Christy was her name. Or maybe it’s Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" you remind me of? No, no...it's for sure the meth addict.

So tell me, cause I'm dying to know...is GM going to incorporate this top secret TR-3B aircraft technology in their cars to compete with Toyota/Lexus?
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 5/12/2007 5:47:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

This houstoncutie is crazy. She claims that that secret aircraft can fly from any A to B point on earth in just an hour.

Anyone who has a double-digit age will know the absurdity of that comment.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 12:30:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

None of that. I actually agree with all of what you said.

But young lady, flying from anywhere in the world in less than an hour comment is plin stupid.

— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:06:51 AM | | Votes: 3

Besides, the shuttle goes Mach 25 ONLY during re-entry.

It's pretty much impossible to build a turbine-powered aircraft that goes at Mach 9.

The fastest flying machine (in atmosphere) is NASA's scramjet that goes at Mach 8.7
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:31:47 AM | | Votes: 3

Still, 3 hours is a lot different than 1 hour!

"WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE AT MACH 8.7 SO WHY NOT MACH 9?"

Because, that one's a scramjet NOT a turbine-powered aircraft.

"IT'S ONLY 24,902 MILES AROUND EARTH, SO TRAVELING AT MACH 8.7 HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO GO ALL THE AROUNG ON ONE TRIP AT MACH 8.7?"

Four hours approx. still NOT one hour.

btw,Do you live in US or Japan?
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 1:27:54 PM | | Votes: 2

^^Once again, do you live in Japan or the US ?
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 2:34:31 PM | | Votes: 3

Maybe the government will find out you've been leaking this obviously classified and sensitive information and take away your keyboard so you can't type in caps lock anymore.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 4:20:16 PM | | Votes: 4

I tend not to take reviews from major newspapers about cars seriously.

I'd rather listen to a variety of different car magazines about one product.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 7:25:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Clearly, a correct thing to do. I usually follow its stories on different forums and enthusiast communities.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 2:37:03 PM | | Votes: 2

houstoncutie2000- SHUT UP!!!!!! TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK!!!!!!!!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 12:32:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

houstoncutie, EVERYONE HATES YOU. go away and stop tormenting this stupid blog!!!
— GX470guy (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 1:45:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

That's really uncool of you to say bro. I can't believe you would be so cruel.
— mitchatlexusofmarin (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 8:27:55 PM | | Votes: 1

Simply because I am bored:

V_snd=V_snd,sl*SQRT(T/T_sl)
M=(V_true)/(V_snd)

?

M=(V_true)/( V_snd,sl*SQRT(T/T_sl))

?

T=(T_sl*V_true)/(M^2*V_snd,sl^2)
T=((59+460) *6849^2)/(9^2*761.2^2)-460

T=58.7273 °F

So Mach 9 is equivalent to 6849 mph at 58.7 °F. So there is a point at which such an assertion is possible: but it is basically at sea level. Calculations must use absolute temperature scales [i.e. Rankine], T_sl was assumed to 59°F with a corresponding V_snd,sl at 761.2 mph.

At 40,000 ft in altitude where the air temperature is around -70°F, the Mach number corresponding to 6849 mph is Mach 10.37

I won’t say anything about the validity of the assertion of the number 6849.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 1:58:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

"?" are supposed to be therefore symbols.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 1:59:15 PM | | Votes: 3

cdoke: Up in the stratosphere, where aircraft usually fly, the speed of sound is actually taken as 774mph.

"At 40,000 ft in altitude where the air temperature is around -70°F, the Mach number corresponding to 6849 mph is Mach 10.37"

Correct. I see that you finally have provided sufficient evidence to close this case.

Thanks.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 2:30:45 PM | | Votes: 2

774mph?

Are you sure you have not miss-typed that?

I am going to have to ask you to explain why that is. The reason I ask is that yes, the troposphere decreases in temperature as a function of altitude, and yes, the stratosphere increases in temperature as a function of altitude, but according to the U.S. Standard atmospheric model, the stratosphere, even at the stratopause, does not exceed in temperature, the mean sea level temperature. Since sound velocity and temperature are directly proportional, this implies that the speed of sound should not exceed 761.2 at any point where the temperature is less than the standard sea level temperature.

Just asking for clarification.
— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 3:16:26 PM | | Votes: 3

Even Concorde expanded and contracted so much due to heat. I remember a story about the Pilot putting his hat in between a bulkhead, his hat got flattened, and he had to wait till the next flight to get it back!

And this triangle aircraft thing...madness.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 4:24:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Exactly! The space shuttle has to have its entire underside replaced every trip! And quite a few just fall off when it is being moved on the ground!
And the SR-71 (the Blackbird right) had a slight problem with its engines...there was a chance that it would "cough" and go into reverse randomly (the endless spin everyone dies). No way of telling when. Would you really like to travel in one?
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 6:07:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Houston cutie: I'm sure that your'e NOT from the US.

Intelligence is a concept beyond your comprehension.
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 4:12:34 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

The same ways to Osama boys did? What. by going to Flying School?
Lexusnumberoneforever, there are plenty of stupid people in america.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 4:42:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Well I for one can't fully comprehend what "cdoke" was explaining, but w.e it was it sure did shut-up "houstoncutie". You'd think she'd be able to discount your argument with all her top-secret knowledge.
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 9:24:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Is this person serious? Is it all a big joke? Am I going crazy?
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:11:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

"houstoncutie" I see the government is doing a very poor job at finding proper education in your part of Houston.

Agent 001 I know she hasn't written anything offensive, but come on do we really need her mindless babbling on this site? She not even talking about cars, hell she’s not even talking reality here...Give her the boot.
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 5/13/2007 11:56:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I think its a guy.
— Matthew1 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 12:26:05 AM | | Votes: 2

Eunuch perhaps...?
— LexusNumberOne4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 4:09:11 AM | | Votes: 3

W.e just get em outta here!
— MunichRob (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 2:09:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

sorry when you say science and technology do you mean the ramblings of a man wearing a tinfoil hat?
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 3:34:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Firstly, understand this word.
RUMOUR.
Secondly, read this, taken from that article.
"Perhaps the GS-F will be powered by the V10"
One word there. Perhaps. It means it is a possibility. An idea. An opinion expressed by Autospies.
There will be a V10 (LF-A), but that is no guarantee of a V12 650h.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 5/14/2007 6:24:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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