Audi A6: Number One in Class for German Sales First 10 Months

Audi A6 is a beautiful car.

What's wrong with have a line of cars that have a family relationship?

Like Papa Bear, Mama Bear and Baby Bear.

Atleast Audi's look expensive. The ES, IS, and LS all look like big, cheap, imitations--typical Jap fashion.

Oh brother. Another flame war in its developing stages. Maybe if we study this carefully, we can predict how all others will form and maybe we can prevent them in the future...

Will the Audi A6 looks like a VW Passat right?
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Dream on, moron.

EL34

yes my $1,500 dollar payment for my Audi is because I couldn't afford the BMW :)

IamEvilHomer, don't believe everything you read.

The comment of Audi drivers not been able to afford BMW is very tragic and wrong.
Ironically, Audis in general are more expensive than their BMW rivals.

EL34_ (Not EL34) - What a foolish comment.. How old are you? 13 or 14?

No, that's Lexus. Lexus owners = posers. Check out the demographics--lower education and salary than all of the German makes.

Could you provide supporting evidence for that?

will- everywere I go i get compliments on my S6. I was at the Toys for Tots show in the Valley yesterday and the comments were almost all positive.

That night I went to the Beverly Hills Hilton and when I went to park my car the Vallets were all drooling over my car. The comment " this is my favorite car"

Point is the car is a good looking car. What GS, E Class, or 5 series looks better? Can we stop the flame wars

No- is the answer. They look different

And, on the contrary, I think Lexus models look too different, especially the SUVs. The RX, GX, and LX might as well come from different brands. They need to set a design theme (not the shroud of L-Finesse crap) and go with it.

This article is great for those that reside in Europe, but what about in the USA. Audi has a long way to go

The point was to address the fact that A6 sales in the US may be low, but that is a direct contrast to how the car performs internationally (China, Germany).

How does Lexus do internationally again?

Audi will sell more A6's in Germany than Lexus will in all of Europe.

"Circles"!

And the ES and RX are luxury cars only because Lexus/Toyota has trained the auto press to call them such, even though they're the cheapest cars in their respective classes and not stylistically different from either their Toyota counterparts, or a Buick.

Squares.

Yeah, I still can't believe Lexus made that crappy 4 cylinder, sub-$30K hatchback and called that a luxury car.

Oh wait, that was Mercedes. Carry on idiot, I mean audiot.

The A4, 3 series, or C-class are the least expensive cars in the their lineups, but atleast they don't share platforms/borrow from any lower cars.

ES & RX share from the Camry.

A quick glance under the hood of an Audi and items from the VW parts bin can be spotted.

Platform sharing does not equate to an inferior product, despite the elitist attitudes expressed here. The car itself is what is important.

"A quick glance under the hood of an Audi and items from the VW parts bin can be spotted."

Well, #1, I've been confused as to why you're a car enthusiast. You seem to dislike all cars- but you hate Audi with a fervor.

On the VW engines... and that's not a bad thing. The only engines that they use that are currently shared with Audi are the 2.0T and the 3.2, which were both Audi-developed. The differences is, the 2.0T A4 is the lowest-end of the spectrum, while the 2.0T Jetta GLI/GTI is the HIGH-END Volkswagen.

Starting from a VW platform wouldn't be a bad thing--VW's are already more highend than Toyota's. But still despite this, Audi's A4, A6, and Q7 share much less in common with a VW than the Lexus ES and RX do.

So, the truth is that the Audi A6 easily outsells the BMW 5 series and MB E class in Germany. Which is great news. I think Germans know what a good car is, and they know that the A6 is a great car.

Chewy, the A6 is significantly cheaper than the BMW and MB in Germany. Most cars in this class sold in Europe are smaller engined models and Audi's have always been cheaper in that regard (with their entry level engines).

Have you not heard of the Mercedes-Benz E200 Kompressor? The 523i? There is no discount, I'm sorry to tell you.

If the Audi A6 is so great how come the re-sale value stinks? There is one 01 4.2L with 38K for 19K list and it's negotiable too.

Go look up a '01 GS430, and I can assure you its resale won't be much higher.

ALG ranked Audi third behind Lexus and BMW for the highest resale values.

Agree with Will and middleman.
All Audis looks very similar and their re-sale value stinks.

On the other note,yesterday on the way to home at night,seen a silver Q7 parked outside a house and believe me for a long time i thought it is an A6 Avant,it's when i reached close enough then i found out that it's a Q7.

There models are that close.

JUGNU

Then you must be pretty retarded to think they look similar,
the Q7 looks like a friggin tank.

Jugnu, you just wanna start a new flame war.
What makes u think Audi's resale is low any proof? I thought Audi's resale is higher than Merc but lower than BMW.

Well A6 won the best pick award from IIHS, and is a perfectly good car.

no it actually looks like a dodge caravan from behind.

Mind that more than 50% of A6 sold in Germany are Avants, and 70% of all German A6 are diesels.

The import taxes/tariffs are an enormous hurdle in europe to enable japanese or US cars to compete there, typically around a 25% jump or more depending on it's configuration. This gives effectively narrows the competition in the sedan class down to German, in Germany anyway.

you can do this at a discount.. ask Toyota how they accomplish this in the US.. Fact remains, that an A6 (yes in germany) sells for a discount over the comparably equipped 5 series. No question.

People dog Lexus because they are too popular and lack exclusivity, yet the same people will argue over which German brand sells the most?

Reminds of an old Alanis Morissette tune.

Thank you India?

And the Lexus sells the most here, and that's all any of you ever say...

Why would I need sales to sway my decision? It makes it look like Lexus is full of followers who bought their cars based on other peoples' decisions.

No, that's really not all we say.

But it is funny that such a big deal is made about Audi selling the most in Germany, but when Lexus' strong sales are mentioned some place else it is poo-pooed as being inconsequential.

That's because continued Lexus popularity in the US will hurt the brand in the long run. Audi, BMW, and MB are already established internationally, so when Audi breaks sales records, they merely strengthen their image.

Lexus, seen by many as a knockoff, and accomplishing their sales goals with Camry-derived cars, simply is not on the same level.

Talk when Lexus sells internationally.

The popularity of Lexus in America will impact Lexus global sales in the same way that the European useage of Mercedes affects U.S. sales of MB's cars. By that I mean not much at all.

I really wish all this stupid debate would stop. The way people can go on and on and provide evidence to show whatever their point of view might be only proves one thing: there is no "right" opinion.

audiman.. and mdalle. yes.. i speak fri*(kin german. Please go negotiat e a damn car before you keep your audi mouth yappin, you ignoramus.!!. Its at least 10-15% cheaper.. or are you too silly to do the math (read stupid)

similarly priced?? HAHAHAHAHA. that is a true liars mentality.. what a joke.. Mdalle.. i thought you drive a high end BMW? no? a4? a3? A2? A1? zero? maybe the crappy new killer a5?

Maybe that A5 will do us all a favor and run you over and kill you.

Wow, AmazingBimmer... stop your $hitty lying. It's all you do, all day long!

Oh, I'm so poor- I bought the $63K S4 instead of the $64K M3! OMG!!! I must be driving a re-badged Volkswagen! (Cries)

Well it's not surprising when it's main competition is one of the ugliest car's ever made!

You all already know exactly what I'm talking about, I shouldn't even have to say it but I will...The 5-series is one car I'm counting down the day's till it's departure.

By the way, I think it's time to ban "Amazing Bimmer"

Why does liking what Lexus does mean dissing what Audi does. Audi makes awesome cars, especially awd. Yup its electronics did have a rep for being "ummmm" a bit dodgy .. but its the European Scoobie.. Unfortunately they suffer peer envy in the US as BMW and MB are "percieved" as far more premier brands... In the end, the "one" who confers status on any particular brand is "YOU".

Ok.. please.. somebody go do this.. go to bmw.de and Audi.de.Price out an a6/ 5 series with any engine option combo.. but lets pick a 530i with a their version of premium., sport and cold weather. please come back to me with your answer. now go try and negotiate one.. please.. Ban me? why? because you cant add?

"Amazing Bimmer"

Anytime Audi outdoes BMW you're always making up excuses as to why Audi pulled out the win. You'll even go as far as flat out lying to dicredit Audi. I'm not a doctor but the denial game your playing in your own head must not be healthy!

Further more you want to talk about math...Aren't you the moron that came seem to realize that Audi's most expensive model is more expensive than BMW's, therefore rulling out the argument of Audi being a 'poor-mans Bimmer'!

BAN "AMAZING BIMMER" NOW!!! This isn't coming from a Benzo fanatic, Audi or Lexus....It's coming from a fellow hard-core Bimmer fan.

again... I did not "realize" that audi sold an expensiive car.. that is a fact. Point is, if you have ever shopped for a bimmer vs. audi, the audi guy negotiates a lot more and the "realized price" is a lot lower. go ahead.. use that data and facts to try to lobby and ban me. Again.. should I be banned, because you cannot add or actually afford any of these cars?

Mdalle.. did it.. audi 9% cheaper. huge difference.