The "Independent" Automaker Teams up With the French to Share Engines.

Two unlikely partners in engine development, BMW and the PSA group, which comprises Peugeot and Citroen, have been so pleased with their current agreement they’re planning to expand it. The companies will complete a study to examine the technological, production, and financial benefits of developing more engines together and if both parties are happy, move ahead with the development of a new range of four-cylinder engines that are expected to be around 2.0L in size.

We thought all of this "independent" talk, from BMW meant they won't share anything with anyone. Maybe their idea of independent and ours are different.







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AlexTx - 12/18/2006 11:58:46 AM

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French engines are so unreliable???
Prove it.....
Just look at Formula 1...Renault...World Champion 2 years in a row.
The new Lexus V8 is O.k....not a marvel of Technology.
Not like the Porsche GT3 6 cylinder or the RS4 V8.

SilverAero - 12/18/2006 2:47:49 PM

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Is it even possible for you to not mention toyata just once

AlexTx - 12/18/2006 12:28:48 PM

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It this is supposed to mean something????
So you know, Renault is coming back in the U.S in 2009 followed by Peugeot in 2010-2011.

chewy - 12/18/2006 2:36:35 PM

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Quick, cover up this article immediately.

izfuney - 12/18/2006 3:20:43 PM

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While Toyota/Honda et all make good engines. Please dont knock the French without knowing WTF u r talking about. From WRC (PSA) to Formula 1 (Renault) the french build fantastic engines. Are they big in the US ? No. Are they big in the rest of the world . Yes .

chewy - 12/18/2006 3:50:44 PM

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The fact is that BMW had a major advertising campaign here in the states of them being "an independent company" This cooperation proves them as a bunch of lying hypocrites. No one likes those, those types of people smell like dirty politicians.

Rupert - 12/18/2006 4:26:44 PM

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wait i knew this too! why didn't i tell anyone?
the bmw 116i uses this engine too, and the old mini engine was a chrysler engine.
dodge/chrysler also buy diesel from vw, in the caliber for example. and mitsubishi used too as well.

Rupert - 12/19/2006 8:29:46 AM

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oh yes that was it. in the mitsu colt as well, i think.

Larry - 12/18/2006 10:36:42 PM

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good move for BMW , they only need front drive engines for the mini coopers, one of the main reason I like BMW is that they are independent carmakers, not a cut and paste cars made of several different parts, like Buick, Saab and Audi. BMW= BMW Group, SAAB = GM, Audi= VW/skoda Group

SixxFive - 12/19/2006 12:10:40 AM

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Larry - your post makes sense, being that BMW only uses front drive engines for such a small percentage of its overall volume. BTW, the latest news from Autobild is that Chrysler is using a Audi/VW engine for one of their models for sale in Europe.

Rupert - 12/19/2006 8:31:03 AM

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chrysler uses the 2.0 tdi in the dodge caliber, and the upcoming voyager will use a vw platform and diesel engines. the next vw sharan will be based off this platform.

chewy - 12/19/2006 12:13:42 AM

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Wait, BMW fan completely ignoring the article that states that BMW is making itself dependent on another company for its future engines as an awesome thing. Funny.

DarkOneForce - 12/19/2006 11:40:35 AM

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What is this non-sense ?!

We're talking about a cooperation here, using co-developed PSA BMW engines for MINIs instead of the Chrysler and Toyota ones.


They're also cooperating with DC AG and GM on hybrid technology.

XYZZ - 12/20/2006 4:33:24 AM

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hey, if ROLLS ROYCE used to use GM engines, what's the big problem with anyone else swapping around?