What's this? German mag says LS460 safer than S class

Oh yeah, how about if you translate Germen into English so I can be the judge, thank you.

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i believe i told you to right click and have google translate it.

Right click and then what do I do?

Okay.

Honestly, I don't really care.

It's not like any of the cars in this class are unsafe- you're splitting hairs.

You don't care because you knew all along Lexus was better and now you're playing it cool to save your pride.

I don't see any braking distances for the Lexus.

haha, i think ur middle name should be about the lexus braking. thats all i ever hear u say.

How did you translate the article?

The LS is a nice car.

Lexus a clear winner.

JUGNU

The first meeting of the safest cars of the world brought out still no clear winner. [The of winner OF the two safest cars into the world has emergency yet brought about A CLEAR more winner.] Because during our test travels on Mallorca we could not measure braking distances, drive no VDA track switching (moose test) and naturally make no Crashversuche. [During our test drives on Mallorca, incoming goods were emergency able ton measure braking distance, VDA lane CHANGEs and NO crash tests.] But: The comparison showed that the Japanese with the Lexus put the safety measuring pole with the active systems for accident prevention on a new level. [However, the comparison has shown that the Japanese have stepped UP the game on the safety level.] Lexus philosophy is thereby another than with Mercedes. More work is removed from less experienced drivers, it comes with dangerous situations better clearly. Thus it stands for 1:0 now for Lexus - continuation follows. [The LS is the more better choice for the less experienced more driver. So far, it's 1-0 for the Lexus. More test ton follow.]

Dumb germans. No sedan can beat the S-Class. Not even the LS460

Fact is most verdicts have been based on driving dynamics more often than safety.which actually doesnt do justice to lexus models.it doesnt suprise me at all that on the basis of safety lexus models are best in their respective segments.atleast i know that their cars come with more airbags than their rivals.this results surely doesnt put the S class to shame in anyway.cheer up merc fans and merry x'max.

The article also states that the most accurate and final determining test (of which car is 'safer') will be the usual series of crash tests.

Well they said that they still have to test braking distance, slaloms and some crash tests. Makes me wonder why they weren't able to test those in Spain when they had the cars.

well ofcourse the LS460 is better then the S class safety wise, that's the beaty of japaense cars. German cars do provide safety, but not as good as japanese cars. The engines of all Japanese cars is like a "rock" German cars are known for there performance.

Um, European cars have a better safety record than Japanese cars.

The Japanese never invested or put too much thought into safety until recently. That's not to say they totally ignored the subject, but the Europeans, especially Volvo, Mercedes and Citroen, spent more time devising safe cars.

renault too, the first car to get 5 stars ENCAP was a renault laguna, and now nearly all the renault range has 5 stars.

doesnt matter you might die from both of them anyways

Well, generally the Mercedes is more of a drivers or enthusiasts car where you have some seat of your pants feel, while Lexus has generally been a soft luxury ride with reliability, hence the "better choice for the less experienced driver".

I don't think its a slight, but just a comment on the different demographics of each brand.

Does the Lexus have an infrared camera to see obstacles in the road at night?

In styling inside and out I clearly give the advantage to the S550.

Is it me or does it seem like Lexus is wanting the car to do more of the driving than the driver?

Mercedes wants drivers to know what they're doing.

I don't see what the big deal is. They're both at the top in this class, they're both safe and they both appeal to different crowds. Both are bestsellers. Who cares which is safer?

At the time of Princess Diana's death, the Mercedes S Class was the safest car on the planet. Did it help?

No matter how safe cars are, something can still happen.

Carry on with the flame wars now...

As a matter of fact, if she had been wearing her seat belt she would have lived.

exactly. the driver went straght through the windshield. he did have much of a face when he landed on the ground at over 40 mph.

*didn't have much of

It is certainly more boring than the S-Class.

LOL!

Who are saying S550 is a driver car are just purely lying.

It drives like a heavy boat.

i think all cars have different suspension set-ups for europe and america. european cars handle more sportily.

Willis, u really have no diea whar u r talking about. Me and my cuzins bought new cars in the same year (2003). I bought my Lexus, second cuzin bout a BMW, and the third bought an Audi. The Audi caught on fire 2 months right after he bought it; later, he found out Audi did a recall on the A4 and even today he still has problems with it. The otehr cuzin who had the BMW had to get rid of it cause he just couldnt afford the maintenaince. Its kept on giving his problems! regardless of any waranties from any car manufacturuer cause we all know there's tricks to them! and guess whose car is still PERFECT, MINE! NEVER, EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!

Straight out of the "How to praise Lexus and bash German cars" bible.

My ____ has a ______ (insert Audi, BMW, MB, Porsche, Opel or VW here) which ______ (insert caught fire, broke down, exploded killing my whole family - except me because I drove a Lexus... here).

Beautifully said. Not.

You guys call the S-class a true driver's car,well you can't even do a couple donuts on the S-class without it breaking down,that right there shows me that the S-class is not made to be driven aggressive!!!(defently not sports car like).

First of all, anyone who calls the S Class a "drivers car" is an idiot. It's not.

Second, read what some of the intelligent posters on this board wrote. A safety system shut down the engine to prevent further damage from happening. Lexus would have done the same thing.

a lexus wouldn't let you do a donut in the first place.

Now that system would really suck if the car came to a stop on some railroad tracks!!!Tell me what's the point of having so much HP on the S65AMG if you can't even have fun with it!!

Rupert I drift in my Lexus SC300 (twin turbo),and I sure as hell "can" do some donuts without my engine cutting off or blowing up!!!

2JZSoarer,

That's because your SC300 probably doesn't have a safety system in that regard. Also, which S-Class AMG owners drive their car in this way? The answer is, VERY FEW.

Most of the S63/S65 AMG buyers just want an S-Class with more power and better handling.

2JZsoarer,
thats because your car is too old to have any kind of stability or traction control system.
and the merc probably thought it had crashed with the spinning, went into pre-safe mode. hence engine cut out.

Bill, I didn't take nething from the "How to praise Lexus and bash German cars" bible. Every1 please read this carefully, I don't like repeating myself. (read my earlier posts from this topic) I'm not bashing at german cars, I love them! All I'm saying is that the Japanese have the best cars in the world as far as safety and/or reliability is concerned. Again, the germans are known for there performance! The germans have the best cars in the world, thast a fact! Porsche, BMW, and ofcourse MB. I really, truly beleive if it wasn't for Lexus, the prestige of Japanese cars would not exist. I mean, I hate infinity, acura...these cars r really bs. If I was to ask a question , what is the best japanese car? 9/10, ure first words would be Lexus.

Acura's flagship is the 3.5 RL, worth about $55,000-60,000. (probaly the same for Q45) Both of them have weak engines, there not as strong and never will be compared to the LS460. The price of 3.5 and q45 are in the same league against the GS from Lexus.
It doesn't take a genious to figure out that the GS is not the flagship of Lexus! THe LS460L is close to $73,000 and wait until the LS600 comes out, that is expected to be atleast between $90,000-$100,000.

What Lexus lacks is the performance. I like the GS from Lexus, when u look at it u figure to horsepower should be atleast 400! but sadfully, its only 340 and thats the hybrid version! the LS600 will be approx. 444, impressive yest, but not as impressive as the Germans. ALready u have in the market so many german cars that have surpassed that speed of power! Then u have LF-A, Approx. 500 bhp, which isn't even out in the market. BMW and some other had cars (M5,M6)with 500bhp were aleady out in the market! And with respect to Italians, we cannot froget Lamborguini, Ferarri, Maserati, etc. Porsce has the best brakes, there ceramic. They do not get "heated" so quickly.

In essence, Lexus has to spend more time and money on resaerching and developing theri performance structure. Lets just c how fast the IF-F will be, once it enters the market. I'm sure its safe to say, we are all anxiosly awating.