Mercedes S-Class vs.Lexus LS 460

Mercedes S-Class vs.Lexus LS 460
Cambridge University’s Trinity Coll­ege is one of the oldest seats of learning in the world. Yet even though it can trace its origins all the way back to 1546, when it was originally founded by King Henry VIII, the institution has managed to keep pace with new ideas.

In fact, with its own world-class business park (which we used as the backdrop for our main pic­ture), Trinity is right at the cutting edge of modern science and technology. And in that respect, the all-new Lexus LS460 has a great deal in common with it. The Japanese company’s top-of-the-range model is now in its fourth generation, and can boast eight automotive world firsts. It’s a technological tour de force, and if ever a car could claim to be intelligent, this is it.

Lexus arrived on these shores in 1989, and UK sales have grown from a meagre 671 in 1991 to more than 12,000 a year today. Yet although the launch of the LS is big news, no car in the sector is better, or has more experience, than our current favourite: the eighth-generation Mercedes S-Class. It’s the model Lexus has to beat.

VERDICT

If you’re in the market for the ultimate luxury car, both the Mercedes S-Class and Lexus LS are likely to be on your shortlist. No other models come close to their quality, technology, equipment, comfort and refinement – not even the Bentley Flying Spur or Rolls-Royce Phantom.

But in concentrating so hard on these areas, Lexus has missed a critical trick – to make the occupants feel good. The LS460 is highly impressive and has incredible engineering, but it lacks personality, coming across as clinical and bland. The Merc is every bit as talented and rides better, yet while it doesn’t have the charisma of the best British luxury cars, it’s more engaging to own and live with than the Lexus. As a result, it wins comfortably here.

For Mercedes S-Class Review:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/204439/mercedes_s500l.html

For Lexus LS460 Review:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/204431/lexus_ls460_sel.html

1st Mercedes S500L

2nd Lexus LS460

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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 1/3/2007 3:35:46 PM
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Yeah, you said it out, lound and clear :)

"That is just (another) subjective BS"


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 1/3/2007 3:18:52 PM
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so a MBZ has personality, British makes (Jag and Aston?) have charisma, and of course we all know that BMW has magic feel and soul.

You can keep all of your hyperbole and imagery, Lexus will just keep putting out the most perfectly executed pieces of machinery (because that's what they are machines) on the road.


ryaajusryaajus - 1/3/2007 3:47:55 PM
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You would think we are comparing our wives or children with others. You have so much love for your car that you can't see the beauty in others..U can't seriously call yourself an enthusiast...or maybe you can only a German car enthusiast...we seem to like German cars more than Germans


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:17:12 PM
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Will, the problem with a lot of Japanese cars is they completely have a new look from design to design.




EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:28:40 PM
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And what is not intergrated about the S550?


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:35:43 PM
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Everything from the feel to the controls.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:22:12 PM
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I like the Mercedes dash layout better and I like the head & tail lights of the Mercedes better.

The Lexus dash looks like the guys that designed


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:25:11 PM
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Hondas and Nissan designed the Lexus dash.

The tail lights are just strange lookin' and the head lights make me tired looking at them and they don't look relaxed like those on the Mercedes.

7 or 8 speed transmission, who can tell the difference in smoothness?

Self-parking is a gimmick for automobiles, but is needed for docking the space shuttle to the space station.


answeranswer - 1/3/2007 4:28:51 PM
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I thought the Mercedes dash layout was better the first time I saw it in the 7 series.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:40:11 PM
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Doesn't look like the dash came form a BMW to me.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:26:40 PM
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I find the overall look of the Lexus to be outdated and needs to go on a diet, but I still like the car and may consider buying it.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:30:16 PM
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"Nightview Assist is a gimmick for automobiles"

It's only as important as the airbag and we know which car had those first.


egogegog - 1/3/2007 6:43:08 PM
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actually will you are completely wrong the chaser and the 5 seires have absolutley no design similarities. I know that and i'm fourteen, and anyway if the LS looks like anything its the Toyota Crown. Catch yourself when you lie Will.


egogegog - 1/3/2007 8:54:00 PM
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I will agree with the 5-series tailights coming from an Impreza. I apologize if you took my comment about the chaser wrong i was trying to use something you said against MDalle but it didnt come through right. I was saing that you compared the 5 to the chaser and he said the 5 and the LS looked similar i was pointing out that the chaser has no resemblence to either in my opinion and i was stating the toyota crown would be more comparable in roofline and a small resemblence in the rear.


egogegog - 1/4/2007 3:36:21 PM
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who deboosted me? please make yourself known.


GS450hGS450h - 1/3/2007 4:29:50 PM
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LOL "it’s more engaging to own and live with than the Lexus"... That because the owner is always "engaging" the car to work reliably.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:35:01 PM
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And if the Mercedes is as or more reliable as the Lexus would you hesitate in diving the Mercedes?


GS450hGS450h - 1/3/2007 4:38:35 PM
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Not at all. I like the looks and the heritage of the Mercedes.


AUDBMLEXMRCAUDBMLEXMRC - 1/3/2007 4:32:10 PM
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I've seen lot of test which tell that LS460 is the best actualy. Other tests say MB S class is the best actualy. Which one you will believe before yourself try both of them! Just try both of them and you see.


answeranswer - 1/3/2007 4:32:27 PM
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I think the Lexus does have a personality, but like the Mercedes, it's not for everybody.

Comparing cars in this way is like comparing girlfriends. You might think yours is a beautiful, easy mannered woman. But I might think she is an ugly bitch.

To each his own.


EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 4:39:13 PM
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Why did Lexus hang that TV from the ceiling in the middle in the way of the rearview mirror?

Either use 2 hanging from the ceiling or put them in the headrest.


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 1/3/2007 5:43:48 PM
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Guess you never seat it one. It is not an issue.


1uberaudi1uberaudi - 1/3/2007 4:44:44 PM
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I love articles that point out "technological advances" and don't bring up the A8L. This car, just in the frame alone, has more technological advances than the S-Class or the LS460?!?. When they start using aircraft aluminium as the frame for their cars, maybe the will get my attention. Until then, if there using cheap steel for the frame, then the rest of the car is cheap. Rolex wrappers on Timex bodies do not impress educated buyers.


AE86AE86 - 1/4/2007 1:13:41 AM
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Will, you are going to love it when Lexus comes out with its own version of i-Drive!


AE86AE86 - 1/4/2007 11:02:22 PM
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I can't wait to hear your excuses about how great it is when it gets here. (I hate iDrive BTW!)


rom64rom64 - 1/3/2007 5:03:49 PM
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HERE ARE THE TWO MAIN DIFFERENCES BTW THESE CARS:

LS460 - Sum of its part are better than the whole
S550 - Whole is better than the sum of its parts

Understand why -

4 years of developing the LS460 - Every piece from Headlight details to interior leather buffing to paint polishing are all first class and indeed well done. Indeed they all stand alone amazingly but however, the odd thing is, is that the integration and excecution into one complete package that is the LS460 is sublime and not harmonic. It seems like the engineers paid to much attention to detail for every specific part they assumed it would therefore make the overall car better. design balance suffers to craftsmanship overkill. Some might see this as a superb stand point, some might not enjoy it.

The S550 on the other hand, may not be technologically superior in its specific parts that make up the car compared to the lexus. But overall, the interior and exterior create a sense of ergonomic harmony throughout all. It just blends so well. Everything has been thought out and the fit and finish of the whole package merges and shows its design statement and heritage link. It is here where quality (high in both cars) does show itself more because each aspect complements each other well in this car than compared to the LS460.

So I suggest we stop all the foolish rants. Each of you should be happy and appreciative if you owned either car. They're both amazing machines and they're the epitome of auto design in the present. They both deliver to their owners and dont dissapoint what so ever. I'm sure after buying a LS460 you wouldn't want to buy a s550 and vice versa. They satisfy all needs, just differently.

Happy New Year


mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/3/2007 7:09:53 PM
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I agree with you


mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/3/2007 8:23:02 PM
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"you" meaning rom64


TalliTalli - 1/3/2007 5:52:47 PM
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I TOTALLY agree with Will
I have no hard feelings about the merc but what in the world does feel mean??. I mean the lexus is an outstanding achievement. Every thing in it has its own class. The merc no doubt is also great but I would take the lexus over it anytime. I think its only becoz of the "badge" the 'feel' came into the eqution.
Anyway, hats off to both the merc and LEXUS.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 1/3/2007 5:57:52 PM
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"If you’re in the market for the ultimate luxury car, both the Mercedes S-Class and Lexus LS are likely to be on your shortlist. No other models come close to their quality, technology, equipment, comfort and refinement – not even the Bentley Flying Spur or Rolls-Royce Phantom."


Wow. See this is how a real reviewer would explain these cars. He's not putting one down over the other, but focusing on their positive points.




CarboyCarboy - 1/3/2007 6:30:23 PM
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The only good thing about the LS460 is the back seats, other than that, it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CarboyCarboy - 1/3/2007 6:31:50 PM
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Will, that was the DVD player.



mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/3/2007 7:08:47 PM
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I'm not even going to read this article, or comment on it.

Whoops, looks like I just did.


themantheman - 1/3/2007 7:12:56 PM
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Mercedes wins, I dont even have to read the article to know that...Lets be honest to ourselves here..if you honestly had the choice, you would go for the Lexus?? I sincerly doubt..


BillBill - 1/3/2007 7:43:48 PM
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Message to WILL.

STOP SOUNDING LIKE A FANBOY

You flame people for being biased, well, you're being incredibly biased and annoying with your comments.


BillBill - 1/3/2007 7:52:43 PM
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Well, I admit, I am partial to Mercedes. Just like you are partial to Lexus.

And for your information, you need to shut up too.


jt716jt716 - 1/3/2007 8:09:43 PM
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God Will can't you get it the tail lights are off the maybach and there is no way the interior looks like the BMW 7 series you just think up that "hey the tail lights are off an altima" and u then believe it. FACE IT the Lexus is good but the S-class is better and i believe over 90% of the world's have had and still does use an S-class. Would you please shut up about ur imaginary fantasies to bash the S-class


AnthonyAnthony - 1/3/2007 8:13:03 PM
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"...there is no way the interior looks like the BMW 7 series..."

lol.

"Would you please shut up about ur imaginary fantasies to bash the S-class."

UMMmm...I do believe the review clearly stated that it is the S-Class that is full of "imagination."


AnthonyAnthony - 1/3/2007 8:14:07 PM
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Will, I agree with nearly everything you are saying.

I've seen the S-Class and LS. The LS was more impressive.


jt716jt716 - 1/3/2007 8:37:15 PM
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It really looks like they want lexus to win EVERY award shows how greedy and biased. Can't even accept defeat once


Agent63Agent63 - 1/3/2007 8:57:16 PM
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As good as the LS is good the S class is the benchmark and has been the benchmark in the full size luxury saloon segment for how many generations now? The LS is good in refinement and technology but the S-class has the same but it includes the prestige that the Merc brand offers.

Now i'm not biased towards Mercedes because i'm a fan of Merc more but it is true.

Here is a scenario, you go to a fancy hotel dinner and you arrive. If you arrive in an LS, people will judge you as a person with money (definately not poor) and owns a nice luxury car. If you arrive in an S-class, people will judget you as a person with wealth and good sense of taste for automobiles. They will recognize a Mercedes over Lexus anyday no matter great Lexus is.

My two cents.


themantheman - 1/3/2007 11:16:08 PM
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Might be a snob, be at least your car gets parked right at the front along with all luxury cars (Bentley's, Rolls, Maybach)..The Lexus as usuall is no where to be seen..


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 1/3/2007 10:02:52 PM
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The Mercedes looks very pretigious with that sticker on the windshield that says "A product of DaimlerChrysler",face it people Mercedes is not what it use to be!!!!


beverlyhillsvaletbeverlyhillsvalet - 1/3/2007 10:25:21 PM
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Lexus drivers are soooo cheap. The worst tippers around. Lexus' always go to the back lot (sorry for the door dings). Now that's out of the way-- Lexus simply are not considered prestigous.

I have driven the new Lexus many times and it is not impressive, however, the Merc is. Me and my mates ask each other all the time what is our most desired car and not once has anyone said a Lexus. Frankly, Cadillac is a more impressive car and would be a much wiser choice for someone in this price range.



EL34EL34 - 1/3/2007 10:44:01 PM
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Mercedes-Benz and all the rest are you paying attention?

Lexus make reliable cars and if you want to sell more cars then you better design them more reliable.

Time to get with the program.


answeranswer - 1/3/2007 10:58:47 PM
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Mercedes S class vs. Lexus LS story

+ us autospies.com posters

= internet cockfighting




Matthew1Matthew1 - 1/4/2007 12:40:25 AM
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Will makes Autospies unbearable.

He is so annoying! He doesn't even know much about cars, yet he ruins a decent constructive thread just because he somehow needs to justify his LS purchase and his 'Lexus is best' mentality.

For someone who spends half his life bashing German car fans for the same reason, I find his comments hypocritical and just a tad childish.

I don't think I have ever heard anyone like Will, who believes in his ignorant little head that Mercedes designers flew to America and got their inspiration for the new S-Class from a Nissan Altima.

Has anyone heard something so ridiculous?

What's more, all his posts are same -dating back years ago from when I first visited Autospies. It's only ever about himself trying to understand 'soul', blasting about reliability or putting his automotive knowledge to the test by trying to tell us that this car copied that car.

Please, make it stop.


answeranswer - 1/4/2007 12:49:25 AM
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I like Will.


AE86AE86 - 1/4/2007 1:44:41 AM
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I can't believe that Will is a real person. I like to rationalize the existence of Will by believing his screen name is used by several people who all have a lot of spare time. "They" are only here to wind up Lexus haters. If "They" were really interested in automobile news or technology:

1. They would be a bit more educated about cars
2. They would refine from replying to Stories with one word and exclamation points. My favorite of these was when BMW released a press kit about the 335i having the power of an V8 and fuel efficiency of a V6. "Will" replied "LEXUS!!!!!!!!", I am sure I used a few less exclamation points, but you get the idea.

I have to admit, I do check Autospies from time to time just to see what this clown posted.

I don't think Lexus' are things to be hated by enthusiasts, merely ignored.

I do have to say Lexus has been great for fans of German cars. BMW's, Audis and Mercedes have definitely improved since Toyota created Lexus in the late 80's.

Lexus are great cars for the people who buy them. They aren't trying to prove anything to anyone.


BillBill - 1/4/2007 11:45:52 AM
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Well said, Matthew.

I agree with you that this Will clown is a complete asshole who is obsessed with Lexus and cannot live with the reality of life: that some magazine picks a competitor over the LS460. Who cares? It's the opinion of their editors / journalist. We all know the LS is a fine car, so shut up with all your crying and screams of "bias".

So, Will, hope you're reading this, because my opinion of trolls like you is very low. Keep up the BS post, clown. And show some appreciation for the competition. Lexus can learn a great deal from them too, idiot.


RupertRupert - 1/4/2007 2:07:04 PM
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will, just to say, no one in europe has ever heard of a nissan altima. i've never seen one in my life.


BillBill - 1/5/2007 7:34:14 AM
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Will = asshole


Matthew1Matthew1 - 1/4/2007 1:13:59 AM
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Oh sure, he can be a jolly friendly fellow.

But I would never discuss cars with him, I wouldn't be able to stand it.


AE86AE86 - 1/4/2007 1:21:58 AM
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Do you think Will's parents are starting to worry about all Lexus posters he has on the wall of his bedroom in the basement? Wait, someone makes Lexus posters!!!


chewychewy - 1/4/2007 2:19:38 AM
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Lexus fans, here is something that Lexus will have that can really challange the Europeans on the performance section. Maybe this will give Lexus respect in the performance category. This is all because history plays role in biases, just like Lexus fans judge some history against the reliability of some cars.

http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-IS-F-Revealed-Before-January-8th-11305


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/4/2007 2:22:53 AM
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Ahh, the envy shows through... Lexoyota fans just wish Lexus could produce something as fabulous as the S-Class. There's simply nothing it can't do.


mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/4/2007 9:43:16 AM
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*attempt to park itself, but it is more of a hassle than it creates.


RupertRupert - 1/4/2007 2:10:47 PM
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will, you called bill a low life, so i don't understand how you being attacked personally isn't deserved.
and will, put it another way. why is lexus superior to all german cars?
1. reliable.
2. cheap
3. they just are
4. i don't care about handling
5. bmw and mercedes suck because they aren't reliable
6. all german car fans are insecure
etc etc.


mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/4/2007 9:48:25 AM
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You know what guys, let's have a vote, I'm sure 001 can get some flash-based voter where it says:
{ } Mercedes-Benz S500
{ } Lexus LS460

and it could be as simple as that.


answeranswer - 1/4/2007 11:02:22 AM
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I'm still a strong supporter of the autospies.com Flagship Car Demolition Derby.

We would finally see which car could kick the others ass.


mstangpny07mstangpny07 - 1/4/2007 11:05:36 AM
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yes, that would work


answeranswer - 1/4/2007 2:47:17 PM
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If someone does not like a design, feeding them regurgitated quotes and philosophies about why they should like it is silly.

You could give me a thousand page essay on the visual appeal of a Ponitac Aztek, but I would still find it amazingly ugly.

What design school are you at?


RupertRupert - 1/4/2007 6:13:52 PM
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will, the gs is ugly. it is an unharmonious blend of loads of different design that doesn't match. they give it a luxury saloon type middle and then a really short, sporty bootlid, which gives it a very chunky c pillar and makes it look really fat.


DieterDieter - 1/4/2007 2:58:29 PM
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I bought the lexus ls 460L and I regret it SOW MUCH, I wish I bought the mersedes s500L.The Lexus misses sow many things like nightvision, TWO screens in the back, massage function on ALL the seats, nice wheels and last but not least good looks reason why people can't buy them in Europa because off those FUCKING carjackers


weaponXweaponX - 1/4/2007 3:27:50 PM
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I test drove the S550 recently and it’s hard to argue that it wears the crown of the best luxury car in the world.

Among a host of standouts, the ride/handling balance was impeccable. Incredible agility for such a large car. The ride was addicting for me, and I could have driven it all day….all night.

The exterior design of the S is attractive, elegant with an incredible road presence. It is a good looking car regardless of what badge it wears.

I wasn’t keen on the quality of leather interior that they used…and the price+options will give you heartburn. Then there’s also the issue of Benz reliability.

I’ve never driven the LS460, and just looking at the pictures I probably never will.



Agent63Agent63 - 1/4/2007 3:34:33 PM
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Will - The underlying problem here is that many of you are just out of touch with the real (tangible) world.

Agent63,
That may be what all of you think, but trust me, there are many more people who do not feel that way. A person arriving at a fancy hotel in a Lexus is seen as sensible and humble, and a wise car buyer. Arrive in a Mercedes, and you're a snob, and vanity queen.

------------------------

That's what I think and that's what many people think as well. However lots think the way you do too so it's 50/50. I own Mercs but I'm not a snob and sure as hell no "vanity QUEEN". Lexus are respectable cars but not as recognized as Mercedes that's what i'm trying to say. Lexus fans can hate on me as much as they want but I have yet seen a LS at the most lavish hotels in my city. All i've seen are S, 7, A8s, and even Jaguars XJ. HOWEVER, I hope the LS will show up one day because the new one has lots to offer. The exterior is subjective though, but the features are up to par.


RupertRupert - 1/4/2007 8:47:20 PM
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i'm sorry but well duh it varies from region to region! i see like ten new s classes a day, and about 10 porsches! and of course about 30 bmw 3 series....
i mean really it's barely an occasion now if i see a bentley or even a maybach...i honestly think i see more mercs than fords in a day...
and the LS will NEVER be used for hotel duty. know why? no diesel or small engine, and poor resale. it's killing sales over here. chauffeur companies all use a diesel.


BillBill - 1/5/2007 7:35:56 AM
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Will = ignorant bitch


CarboyCarboy - 1/4/2007 3:53:37 PM
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Do I need to remind MDalle and SupraNeverBack that this was the car that brought you most of the car technology today, and that the Lexus autopark system is crap since its unusable.


CarboyCarboy - 1/4/2007 3:58:31 PM
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The LS460 is a BMW Wannabe! Hello just look at the side looks like a 5-Series.


LordvaderLordvader - 1/4/2007 4:28:10 PM
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Here's my thoughts on it...

MB looks good, it really does. In many ways though, it is just a refined Maybach. Look closely at the Maybach, and then look at the S class, and you'll see the interior is the same layout. On the exterior, they just added fender flares.

On the other hand, the LS looks like a restyled 7 series on the exterior.

Here are the facts though, and I know this as I have worked for both MB and Lexus...

MB is plagued with problems, so after the honeymoon phase wears off, you're not happy with the car, and that's the bottom line. Again I know this, because I dealt with it on a daily basis, after consumers are over the whole 'new car' thing, the unsatisfaction sets in.

Lexus lives beyond the honeymoon phase, and that's where they excel. The car is reliable, and does not get rickety after owning it for years. Furthermore, the interior design, easy or controls, and sensory immersion are far superior to any manufacturer.

The S class does look more edgy, but that will wear off, and then...

then you'll go buy a Lexus.

In addition to opinions, the numbers don't lie...
Lexus is the #1 luxury manufacturer in the US, and there is a reason for that. Check the numbers.


EL34EL34 - 1/4/2007 10:26:43 PM
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Lordvader, I've taken the LS460 out for a test drive and it's a great car, but the dash is just like every other Japanese car with the look. It may have nicer materials, but it's just like the Camry or Accord dash, only bigger.


KeyserSozeKeyserSoze - 1/4/2007 6:40:44 PM
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These are two of the greatest luxury sedans on the planet. & Please give will a break he is one of the few posters that make this website interesting.


BillBill - 1/5/2007 7:32:47 AM
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Will = idiot, if you ask me.


answeranswer - 1/5/2007 12:00:08 PM
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Bill is an ass if you ask me.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/5/2007 1:02:38 AM
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I have come up with the self-park feature's fatal flaw.

It's completely, 100% redundant.

There's the fancy little computer screen, and you press the little arrows for an annoyingly complex forty-five seconds until the car is safely parked in between the other two.

If you're using push-button arrows, WHY DON'T YOU JUST USE THE STEERING WHEEL???

There's no convenience gained at all! None! Zero!

I'm sure Lexus spent hundreds of millions developing (or buying the rights of) this system, and I pity them! They achieved nothing!


LordvaderLordvader - 1/5/2007 11:35:46 AM
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-Gogo-

How could you possible contest that I have worked for both companies. I'm not one to normally insult, but in your case, I'll make an exception. You're an buffoon!

I have worked for both companies! They are both in San Diego, and they are both off the 163hwy. The companies are owned by UAG, as well as the BMW, Jaguar, Acura, and Toyota dealerships, all on the same road. The CEO of UAG is Roger Penske, the Western Div Officer is George Brochek. In the MB store is one of Penske's indy cars... What other inside information do you need?

I have worked for both, and I can tell you more if you like Gogo?

I am correct in my statements, and again, the numbers don't lie. We can sit here and blog all day long, and argue who is right and whatnot, but people vote with their wallets, so let the numbers do the talking, and the numbers favor Lexus. So either Lexus is part of the biggest automotive act of conspiracy and deceit, or they are in fact that good! And since I have more faith in the American public, in that they could not be lied to for 16 years in a row without discovering the truth, I'm going to have to say Lexus is that good! Any remarks Gogo!?


answeranswer - 1/5/2007 12:02:38 PM
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Lordvader, please don't let Gogo upset you.

Gogo is just a person who has decided he no longer wants to keep his stupidity to himself, and has come to autospies.com to share it with all of us.


u8initu8init - 1/5/2007 3:51:10 PM
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Like the ad says...."Nine Generations One Crown"...its not a game....all beware of the S Class


weaponXweaponX - 1/5/2007 3:53:31 PM
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Putting aside the bland, uninspiring looks of the LS460….which to me is like the kiss of death in the fashion conscious world of high-end luxury cars, you do have to respect the fact that it will probably be an extremely reliable car.

If you want to sacrifice style and sportiness for dependability then by all means the LS460 is the car.



MusiiicMusiiic - 1/17/2007 10:14:13 AM
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This website is full of Japanese fanboys.

If you like mercedes (I do) better than Lexus, DONT GO HERE.

Will is just an idiot!


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