Not as Soon as First Thought: BMW Hydrogen Power at Least 30 Years Off for General Production

Not as Soon as First Thought: BMW Hydrogen Power at Least 30 Years Off for General Production
The dream of hydrogen-powered cars emitting only water vapour is slipping further into the future as car companies grapple with some of the problems.

The latest estimate is that instead of the 10 years forecast by General Motors, buyers may have to wait 30 years.

GM has been leading the promotion of hydrogen as the natural solution to problems associated with petrol-powered cars - exhaust emissions and finite oil supplies.

Germany's BMW group is much more pessimistic, even though it recently started producing a hydrogen-powered 7 Series sedan with an internal combustion engine.


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quizzquizz - 1/15/2007 3:12:01 PM
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30 years?! We will still be driving cars for mass transportation in 30 years.

I don't think I'll be driving in 30 years.


bubbahotepbubbahotep - 1/15/2007 4:08:03 PM
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oh boy ! Now I have 1 more thing to look forward to besides retirement and social security ...


BMW740Z4BMW740Z4 - 1/15/2007 9:20:10 PM
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Don't think that you have Social Security to look forward to if you live in the US!!!


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 1/16/2007 12:14:33 PM
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I wouldnt count on the social security part.....


RupertRupert - 1/15/2007 5:34:15 PM
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1. toyota did not invent hybrids.
2. hybrids were not available 10 years ago.
3. audi/vw had a hybrid concept 15 years ago
4. hydrogen cars have nothing to do with fuel economy. bmw are not selling these cars, they are leasing them. they are test-beds.
5. i don't really think the original toyota prius was affordable, it cost a lot more than similar sized cars that had better fuel economy.
6. please name me one lexus that is more fuel efficient that a bmw.
the 320d is more fuel efficient than an IS220d (the car you claimed didn't exist because "lexus will never make a diesel" despite the fact they have for 2 years.
the 520d/525d are more fuel efficient thanthe GS450h.
730d more fuel efficient than LS600h. bmw X5 3.0d more fuel efficient than RX400h.
etc.
7. and hydrogen bmw does work, it's to do with the infrastructure needed.
8. lexus is losing the fuel economy race by far. IS 250/350 both worse than 325/335.
9. wait, this bmw has better emissions than ANY LEXUS.
and yes, you are completely retarded. i mean seriously, seriously stupid. not in an offensive way, but in a pitying way. i pity you and your lack of understanding, i pity you and your lack of comprehension of the real world, i pity you and your single minded thought processes.
if you came up with valid reasons why you liked lexus, and why you didn't like bmw, fine. but to say bmws are shitty cars is a very, very stupid statement.


flozel1flozel1 - 1/15/2007 9:11:59 PM
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Actually...te Prius hybrid was released to the public in Japan in 1997 so yes, THEY WERE AVAILABLE 10 YEARS AGO.


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 1/16/2007 2:52:26 PM
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the case is still in the courts. I dont know how the justice system works in your country, but in the US you are innocent until proven guilty. The claimant will need to prove that Toyota STOLE anything.


bubbahotepbubbahotep - 1/15/2007 4:59:00 PM
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Gogo- Thats the best come back you have ?? Wow, such intelligence...


chewychewy - 1/15/2007 5:10:18 PM
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Making a hydrogen powered car is problematic, making hydrogen to power that said car is something no one wants to talk about.


BMW740Z4BMW740Z4 - 1/15/2007 9:21:21 PM
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Screw it - internal cumbustion 4 life.


BMW740Z4BMW740Z4 - 1/15/2007 9:21:48 PM
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Just thought I'd be "that guy"


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 1/16/2007 2:57:44 PM
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Wrong, MDalle. A performance hybrid still gets better mpg than a comparable ICE, and emits fewer emissions. You dont have to compromise. As for better than Bluetec, I dont have the breakdowns of each emitting pollutant. You seem to but you did not post where you got your info from, so it cannot be verified. What can be verified is that Bluetecs are still not certified to meet the strict 5 state emissions requirements, which are met by all gasoline powered cars on our roads and vastly exceeded by hybrids.


RupertRupert - 1/16/2007 12:30:28 PM
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who invented math?
????
how can you invent adding 2 cows to 3 cows?
writing was invented by the mesopotamiams, in iraq/iran.
and engineering? what does this mean.
more rubbish being spouted from mr huu imamoron 76.


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 1/16/2007 3:00:30 PM
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So BMW is basically admitting that the hydrogen 7 was all about HYPE (One of German fans' favorite words). Meanwhile, Toyota and others continue to hone hybrid technology so that within 2-3 years we will have vehicles capable of 70-80 mpg, and the possibility of all electric ranges for some 40 miles.


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