Toyota Forced to Extend Engine Warranty on 7.5 Million Cars

This is serious and will reflect a bad image.

In other words, it will leave a mark!

Toyota "is refusing to back down from its contention that negligent owners are the cause of the problem, not a design defect or quality problem."

So what they are saying is that Toyota has more "negligent" owners than other manufacturers?

Well they do know their demographics pretty well.

So maybe a characteristic of their target audience tends to skate by and use the cheapest oil possible (It is a Toyota, you can't tear them up). Or even a better idea! Save more cash by not changing the oil at all. No one ever accused the typical Camry owner of being a gearhead, so it is quite plausible that this scenario could happen on a regular basis.

Since we all know that Toyota makes the most solidly engineered vehices on the planet, it couldn't be a bad design.

Good point. The flip side of this would be that since Toyotas do have a perception being extremely reliable, this could cause people to get a mentality of "oh, I could go a few thousand miles more, then I'll change out the oil."
I'm sure you could find stats out there, but who really wants to go through those maintenance records looking at odometer mileage and when oil changes were done? Maybe Toyota already has and that's where their claim is coming from...
I've felt that the most reliable Toyotas came in the early to mid 90s. I see those cars that my friends have who don't always take the best care of them and they're still running well.

Plano, you're being too soft on them. This is our chance to pounce.

IN YOUR FACE!!!

Plano, I disagree, you are being subjective and assuming that everything that Toyota builds is perfect.
Let us face facts, the numbers speak for themselves.

You are right the numbers and facts speak for themselves and have been for years and the end result is:

Toyota products are the most reliable on the planet anywhere and any condition.

Also don't accuse PlanoA4 of being a Toyota fan.

No you idiot that is not out of the propaganda book that is the truth, of course if you would know more you wouldn't say things like that. Your bias dictates your comments as I have seen on other threads.

Anyway I refuse to comment on your comments since I can see that the only thing you are good at is starting flame wars.

Refuse to comment after the last one of course.

What kind of A3 do you have?

I've had Toyotas, no problems, 4Runner, Corolla

Lexus, no problems at all ES300 & RX 330

BMW, many electrical problems from the starter, trip computer (320i) to the sunroof not closing (325is)

MB, problem with the headlight falling off on an SLK, Brake light (ABS) failure warning on 2001 E320

OK, who's the bozo that gave me negative. I still own a toyota, a lexus and 3 MB's. I spoke the truth. Don't own any BMW now, but that doesn't mean I don't like the brand.

The HEADLIGHT fell out of your SLK? How did that happen??

I don't think a "Check ABS" light counts as a problem. That's like saying the noise that my wife's RX makes when she accelerates from a stop (for a few seconds, it sounds like a diesel engine- it started doing it a few months ago) is a major inconvenience. It's not, and I'd never put it on a JD Power survey or whatever sheet.

The worst thing to happen to any German car I've owned was the headlight washer cap falling off of my '00 A6 bi-turbo.

Please note that even tho 7.5 million vehicles now have this extended warranty, nowhere near that number were actually affected by this problem. Toyota agreed to cover every vehicle sold in the specified configuration, even those where no problem has ever been reported. So the actual cost to Toyota will be smaler than some of you are hoping. Also, this was a settlement, not a judgment, so Toyota gets out of it with no admission of guilt. You can read this anyway you want.

This black mark on Toyota's stellar reputation has been hanging like a cloud over them for years. The settlement hopefully resolves it once and for all, and we can stop hearing "sludge" every time someone brings up Toyota. It's a fair settlement to the manufacturer and the buyers. And tho it took far longer than it should have to get a resolution, it once again demonstrates Toyota's commitment to quality.

No cars caught fire, burning down garages. No cars rolled over, killing occupants. People who didnt change their oil regularly screwed up their engines. And Toyota (begrudgignly to be sure) is compensating them because a Toyota engine should have been built well enough to withstand that abuse.

You sir...are full of it. How does this show Toyota's "commitment to quality" when we know it took them years and plenty of court trials to settle this issue. and then you insult the owners as if "they" screwed up the motors?? GIVE ME A BREAK! If they were so committed, then they would have took the responsibility and moved forward. Bottom line, it cost money and it was an engineering error on Toyota's part. God know's if this was GM, then it would have another "GM builds crap" flame war..

Toyota had already honored warranty claims exceeding the original warranty in many cases. Some lousy dealership experiences notwithstanding, Toyota has been trying to rationally resolve this issue for years. Unfortunately some Toyota dealerships get very low marks for customer service (check out JD Power), I've experiened a couple of them myself. So it turned what should have been basic warranty claims in to nightmares for a few customers. However, this final settlement just puts the issue to rest for the whole lot of the vehicles. And do you honestly expect that a settlement involving 7.5M cars would be resolved in a couple weeks?
Will anyone keep us posted if GM ever settles cases of their trucks catching on fire?

Touche! Aight..I'll accept that one :)

Not true, this article is obviously fabricated.



Sarcasm off.

Sludge, ouch thats not a good problem to be having...

Well,it's about time toyota solve their engine sludge
problems,my son's 97 corolla has the same problem,he changes the engine oil every 2500 miles.They are just like GM,bigger is better.At least they extend the warrantee,they don't let their customers stand dry.Whith the big 3,your 36000/3 years is over you be on your own.Toyota should equipe their 4 and 6 cyl cars with HONDA engine till they solve their sludge problem

It is a fact Toyota's budget shifted from quality control to more money spent onto production.Lexus is still the best quality wise. I have a 1993 4-runner with 414,000km and it pretty reliable aside from the power windows and a few other things.As we can see Toyota currently isn't much better than the rest! I would like to see them extent there warrantee like Chevy! After all they believe in there product don't they? And all dealers have awful service! I have had bad experiences with Ford and Toyota.For a matter of a fact I have never had a good experience with dealers! Every time I delt with a dealer they attempted to rip me off.They are all the same!

I have read some blogs on the 2006 2007 totota corola.About half the people were complaining about what a piece of crap the corola is and poor fuel mielage it attained.There were many quality issue! They dont make them like they used to.When I looked up the new honda nobody complained about bad gas mielage like they did for the Toyota.(I own a toyota 4 runner 1993) And after all my research I would never buy a current toyota again! For a small car I would buy the Honda civic hands down!