Lexus's big win at Daytona

Well, i would just like to say that i think lexus's big victory at a motorsport race in Daytona today shows that they are now worthy of some respect. Even those who think its a re-badged toyota, you have to admit its pretty cool. I look forward to reading all the bashing. Great Job Lexus!!
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sewingmachinesewingmachine - 1/29/2007 1:42:36 AM
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juan montoya races everything now.


AE86AE86 - 1/29/2007 3:29:49 PM
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And wins!


BMWRocksBMWRocks - 1/29/2007 2:11:58 AM
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Well, a win is a win. No matter how you put it, good job lexus.


HeyhuubHeyhuub - 1/29/2007 6:18:06 AM
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More then Lexus will ever win.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2007 8:57:36 AM
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renlex, are you serious?

Nice job Lexus, BTW.


BillBill - 1/29/2007 8:24:02 AM
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One win won't get my respect. They need to win CHAMPIONSHIPS, and lot's of them. Anyone can win a race, but it takes a number of race victories to win a championship. I can applaud them for the win, but they'll get my respect once they win some championships and some "real races". I'm talking about Formula One style racetracks or the Panamericana race course in the Mexican mountains etc.

Oh, and Renlex, if you'd take your head out of your stupid ass, you'd know that BMW has won a lot of championships, races, events etc., just like Mercedes and a number of old school European brands. Moreover, these brands had racecars that were innovative and technologically advanced for their time. The Lexus Daytona racecars are none of that.


answeranswer - 1/29/2007 11:55:24 AM
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Could you please jot down all the races you think are meaningful and forward that along to Lexus HQ?

I don't want Lexus to waste their time winning stuff that won't earn your respect.


BillBill - 1/29/2007 1:52:09 PM
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You know, Mr. Answer,

If you had read my statement, I said that a single race victory doesn't get my respect. I never said I can respect Lexus for winning a race, in fact, I offered them my kudos.

But let's face it. NASCAR is an American race, and there's nothing exciting about watching a bunch of cars going around in circles overtaking each other here and there - or maybe it's just me.

Now, how many people actually watch NASCAR? Last I checked, the "educated" people of America were hardly interested in this sport. NASCAR always has been something of a "common man's" motorsport experience. NASCAR isn't necessarily watched by Lexus target market. Get what I am saying?

I'm a history professor and I like history, also automotive history. The great race tracks are tracks like Spa in Belgium, the Nurnberg Ring, Monza, Suzuka, Silverstone, Hockenheim and many more. The great races are the Carrera Panamericana Mexico, the Alpen Race. These are all races which really test the endurance of man and machine, especially the Carrera Panamericana Mexico. Lexus main rival, Mercedes-Benz set a world record there in a 300SL that until this day has remained unbeaten. THIS creates part of the prestige for a brand and makes it appealing. These are international and respected tracks. The world doesn't care about NASCAR. If Lexus wants to make it big, they need to move towards the international racing scene, not some domestic racing series which half of the United States doesn't even watch, nor care about.




BillBill - 1/29/2007 1:54:26 PM
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Damn. Just proofread my post again and I made a bunch of grammatical errors. Why can't we have a better forum software here that allows us to edit posts?


07mcs07mcs - 1/29/2007 2:48:10 PM
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You forgot to mention the Monaco race of Monte Carlo. One of the most famous races in F1 and than Ayrton Senna won a record 6 times.


07mcs07mcs - 1/29/2007 2:48:24 PM
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You forgot to mention the Monaco race of Monte Carlo. One of the most famous races in F1 and that Ayrton Senna won a record 6 times.


XYZZXYZZ - 1/30/2007 2:46:40 AM
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"the Panamericana race course in the Mexican mountains ..."


this has sorta been SUPERCEDED by the Baja 1000, a FAR MORE grueling race.

which has been OWNED by toyota trucks for over a dozen years.


NARunnerNARunner - 1/29/2007 8:45:34 AM
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this is a repost, yet it still gets posted because this site just looooooooooves lexus. how many more times do you think we'll see the same article or different articles on the same topic? my guess is 5 or 6.

hey guys, a toyota engineer just wiped his own ass! let's jump all over that story, i think that one needs to be posted 4 or 5 times too.


NARunnerNARunner - 1/29/2007 10:00:16 PM
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clever, kiddo.

that's not the only thing the toyota engineer has over me. he also has the ability to engineer an inferior product to others on the market...it takes TRUE failure to follow the pack, rather than lead it.


XYZZXYZZ - 1/30/2007 2:57:06 AM
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"...engineer an inferior product... "


this statement PROVES you've got your head up your ass.

what other company offers STATE-OF-THE-ART dohc multivalve engines with VVTi ACROSS THE LINE, from the cheapest yarises and corollas, all the way up to the Lexus LS? what other company offers anything within exhaust fume sniffing distance of the LS600h?

and finally, even with all that advanced engineering, toyota/lexus engines and electronics are NOT FUSSY, like on some other pretentious brands.

the average EIGHT YEAR OLD toyota or lexus will still remain not as, but MORE reliable and trouble free than most other brands' cars only HALF as old.

it's oh, so EASY for fans of inferior products to JUST HATE toyota and lexus, for all this unmatchable superiority. (but they gotta be totally prejudiced and/or BLIND to reality, to hate so blindly.)


dustydusty - 1/30/2007 10:46:54 PM
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LOL bulldogz!


NARunnerNARunner - 1/31/2007 12:14:48 AM
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ah yes, i was waiting to see how long it would take for the lexus posse to round up and invade this thread with their pro-lexus propaganda.

i respect toyota more than you would think. despite my ignorant post above, i look up to their engine technology *esp. performance hybrid tech) and (of course) their incredible manufacturing processes that have revolutionized manufacturing in general.

the only thing i hate about lexus/toyota are the @sswipes on this site who take every anti-lexus remark as if someone were insulting their first born child.


XYZZXYZZ - 1/31/2007 4:16:29 AM
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ok, you admitted you made a stupid post. KUDOs to you for that admission!

now as for the seemingly rabid lexus defenders, they wouldn't some out swarming for action, if there were NOT frequent stupid slams on lexus.


jon21jon21 - 1/29/2007 8:51:00 AM
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Congrats to Lexus for the victory.


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 1/29/2007 12:03:14 PM
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So are these just gussied up Toyota wins?


NeverfollowNeverfollow - 1/29/2007 1:35:05 PM
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Just a rebadged Toyota NASCAR. He He!


Agent009Agent009 - 1/29/2007 1:36:54 PM
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Another typical finish for the Lexus team in Rolex racing. Toyota/(Lexus) does a fine job prepping and winning in this series. They could school the f1 Team with the in's and outs of how to build a successful effort and win consistently. hats off to them in winning a grueling race.

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trd1trd1 - 1/29/2007 5:42:52 PM
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didn't they say if they win a lot of races, that they will probably release the lf-a, i hope this happens.


LexusLexus - 1/29/2007 6:34:41 PM
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Good job Lexus! :) yeah....


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 1/29/2007 11:03:12 PM
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This is the second year that Lexus has won the Rolex24!!
Why do you guys keep calling the Rolex series,NASCAR?
it is completely different lets get that straight!!

I think that Toyota needs to get Juan Pablo Montaya to race their F1 cars,that guy is awesome at driving race cars!!


dustydusty - 1/30/2007 12:13:39 PM
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Good job Lexus! (But I bet those 24 hours were boring since Lexus is not a drivers car.) LOL


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 1/30/2007 3:47:13 PM
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Dusty Can you say anything even more stupid than that??
That is a Lexus race car not a luxury car!


dustydusty - 1/30/2007 4:24:48 PM
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It is called "sarcasm". Get it?


dustydusty - 1/30/2007 4:26:12 PM
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But don't tell the others...ok?


AllosaurAllosaur - 2/2/2007 5:22:56 AM
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"only got their feet wet..."?

Perhaps you should take another look at Toyota motorsports as a whole. They have championships in many forms of racing, especially endurance racing. Their CART and IndyCar programs did well and they'll get it right in F1 soon.

At Le Mans, their GT racer was the fastest car over sustained stretches than we've seen in years. Even off-road truck racing (including endurance) they are the most dominant powerplant ever.

Lexus is simply a marketing arm for their luxury division. Make no mistake; that V8 is the same engine Toyota has perfected for years.


AllosaurAllosaur - 2/2/2007 5:25:13 AM
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And it wasn't "one race."

While you weren't looking or minding what you;re saying, Lexus won this same 24 hour hard-charger last year, too.


sebastianmejia17sebastianmejia17 - 2/1/2007 12:55:52 AM
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Juan Pablo Montoya SUCKS THE BIG ONE, PERIOD!!!!


AllosaurAllosaur - 2/2/2007 5:28:37 AM
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This comment sizes up your maturity.

Irrespective of your personal impression of him, he's one super racecar driver and it shows. He did more dicing, passing and race-crafting than any of the leaders and he is essentially who gave them the win.


BlueboyBlueboy - 2/5/2007 1:24:39 PM
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let us not forget the role Chip Gnassi´s team played in this win.

it is the second year for them.

last time I was with Juan in 2002 with Gnassi CART team in Japan he was a nice guy.





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