Oprah Loves the new Lexus LS

Man..I sure have been there. Maybe she was giving away LS. hahaha

Is she giving cars away again. !!!!

I agree Gogo, I agree with you on the Citroen C6 ;)

Yeah Gogo2 she sure is stupid. Imagine all that stupidity and worth only a mere billion. Hell for a billion dollars, I sure hope to be that "stupid" some day.

Exactly! I am not surprise she found it cool, she is a business woman. Who knows may be Lexus paid her to feature the car in the show.

It's a very cool car, but it's not a looker.

"FOR LEXUS TO MAKE A CAR FOR ONLY $80,000 TO IMPRESS THE RICHEST WOMAN IN AMERICA "

Uh....The richest woman in America? Hardly. She is number 242 on Forbes 400 and worth 1.5 billion. The wealthiest women in America are the Waltons [there are 3 of them I believe], each is worth around $15.6 billion. They don't drive Lexus': they have American made pickups.

because they're celebrities we should influenced by what they drive?

i should take car buying advice from actors, politicians, etc?

how ridiculous.

all got their car free and i don't see a car nut in the group

renlex: the ES350 is a better car than the 5 series?!? based on what criteria.

sure it's quieter, has softer leather and a better nav. but it's the 60-plus year old buyers of the ES that value those things.

these cars are not in the same class nor are they remotely comparable in terms of performance, handling and style.

Oprah also did a show about driving from Orange County to Las Vegas and when she was out in the middle of the Mojave Desert on the 15 freeway she stopped in to a gas station where they charge $4.25 a gallon and she had no idea how to pump gas into the car.

Oprah needs self-parking because I'm sure she doesn't know how and I'm sure she normally doesn't drive.

Shooter McGavin!

Well, Orange County can simply fall into the Pacific Ocean and take you and your daft pomposity with it. I'm sure several residents of that county also lack the skill to pump gas or even command a vehicle themselves and must rely on the labor of their servants.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS ARTICLE IS EVEN POSTED ON HERE.. WTF ?!?!?! WHAT CAR ENTHUSIAST GIVES TWO @)#*%'s ABOUT WHAT OPRAH DRIVES !!!
IS THIS WHAT THIS SITE HAS COME TOO............

I wonder how long it will be until a certain Audi afficiando begins berating Lexus owners for choosing their brand over Audi or another comparable German marquee, thereby disallowng Audi a larger foothold in the American marketplace.

Oprah looks so tiny in that Lexus.

Either she's small or the LS is gigantic.

Advanced Parking Guidance System only costs you $700! $700 not $7,000, why complains about it?

Yeah. It costs $700 because it is from a Japanese company, unlike others who like to overcharge for everything. HID anyone for $1000.00 anyone???

APGS is not $700. it's part of a $10,000 option package.

Wow the whole process only took 4 minutes! Give me a break, if she could drive for a damn she could have parked the car (in a space the size of a school bus mind you)in less than 20 seconds. Sure the self park feature is cool but in every day traffic situations taking 4 miuntes to park your vehicle is very unpractical.

Faster than Top Gear making M6 run from 0 to 60mph in 4.0s ^0^

Yeah I really don't care what Oprah thinks about anycar for that matter...How about an article on what Ralph Lauren thinks of his new Bugatti Veyron.

Wow, stop fighting. Oprah is my Goddess.

Just look at the haters.OHh my GOD.
Heattttt.

JUGNU

Heat + Hate = Will blast this blog.

Calm down haters.There will be no good or bad to Lexus if Oprah (or even alan mullay) likes it or not.

Peace Peace Peace

JUGNU

LOL thank you!

Well, who wouldn't love the LS? Of course, not those stubbord German Fan Boys who hate to think that Lexus is taking away attention from their favorites.

"who wouldn't love it?"

people under 60.
people who appreciate a balance between ride and handling.
people who want a car not confused with an ES/camry in appearance.
etc.

Great a middle aged fat woman loves that car

WOW!

Just think of all the free publicity the Lexus LS is having. This will definitely boost the sales of the Lexus LS460/600 hl.

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I think the LS460 is a really great car, but whenever I see an S-Class I just want one.

To want the Mercedes and not the Lexus all you have to do is let go, just let go and travel to your local Benz dealer and find out what everyone is talking about.

who says it's free publicity?
i really doubt it's free, lexus will have paid.
there is no such thing as free publicity, it's all arranged.

funny that the S-class doesn't even need the publicity. even at a base price $25,000 higher the S-class sold more than 3,500 in it's first month (feb 06) and the LS sold just over 3,000 in it's first month last fall. good thing for their PR department got the gimmicky self-parking thing on oprah! they need it.

True...but it all good publicity for Lexus brand.

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Um renlex Ford's CEO canceled his order most prob he got an Aston Martin. And another thing THE FIRST LS IS THE BEST it was very advanced for its time not even the current day Toyota Camry is that advanced but that is the ONLY good Lexus.

Her 'partner' Stedman drives a Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

Renlex I heard he said it was a fine and it is but not on this whole planet..And ill rather take the 1990 LS over the 2007 LS460 its more reliable and just classic..Those are the only good ones...

Oh n to houstoncutie about 90% of the World's Richest own the S-class..didn't you watch the Topgear vid?

Wow look at all you Lexus fans just kissing each others ass over senseless comments. I'm going to get my head bitten off for this one, but I guess it must be a good day to hear someone likes the LS...Hah too bad it's Oprah.

Renlex, give me a 7 series over all the LS' on the planet. Shut up.

It not about kissing each other a$$, it about stating the fact and opinion, and that is all. If you don't like it, leave than.

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Oprah? Isn't it embarrasing that a middle age lady with a massive beer gut likes the 460? The 460 is a sofa on wheels for the geriatric crowd.

If you are not a toyota fan/lexus your views can't be expressed on Autospies.

Why isn't the name change to vvti.com?
Atleast the folks at Vtec.net got it right, although they're mostly dedicated to Honda they still show the comments of those who aren't too pleased wiht Acura/Honda.

This site is a shame to true auto fans such as myself.

renlex: some of us don't buy cars based on the areas in which lexus excels: long-term reliability, durability, dealer service, soft leather, great nav.

some of us buy cars that are fun to drive, handle well, provide feedback from the road and just plain look good (i.e. different from every other car on the road). in these areas lexus has never impressed me. but i realize that millions of people value the things the brand is good at.

wait wait wait...Oprah drives one?

Sign me up!

that is what i think about when walking into the dealership...

W.W.O.D

What Would Oprah Drive?

Man I'm not lying when I say that there was a line at the Portland auto show to sit in the LS460,the Lexus section was packed with people,while the BMW,Audi,and Mercedes section was dead,pitiful!

2JZSoarer,

Funny, I was there too and the BMW and Mercedes sections were packed too. Your statement is pretty much worthless because you're a known Toyota troll who'll switch things around. You contradict yourself in a number of posts too.

I don't know what day you went to the Portland auto show, but Lexus among all of the other generic car makers downstairs in the lobby was no busier than Merc, BMW, Audi, and Rover upstairs in the luxury and exotics section.

Ever since its debutantelike entrance on The Oprah Winfrey Show in 2005, the Pontiac G6 never had a chance to be anything but a chick car.

When Winfrey jumped up and down on the stage shouting, "Everybody gets a car! Everybody gets a car!" the prospect of ever marketing the Pontiac G6 to the American male went out the window. The Oprah seal of approval might have made the G6 world famous overnight, but it instantly lost any hope of street cred.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=119439

Wow. This is the vantage point for Lexus. What an incredibly relevant article. I can't imagine what they would do if Oprah didn't like the new LS460. Wow. I can't hold back my excitement.

Oprah is an authority on cars about as much as Mike Tyson is on gardening.

I guess if you’re the type of person who thinks working the dishwasher is exciting, or Regis Philbin is a trendy dude, then this car is for you.

Otherwise, drive the new S-Class. It’s an epiphany.

Yes, it's just publicity.

Then why are you boasting about it and trying to pass it off as "huge" for the LS? Oprah would like any other car in this class if she sat in them, and you know it.

$700? the APGS is part of a $10,860 package on the base LS. check out lexus.com, build a car and try to get that gimmick for $700.

The time I remember when the Lexus LS460 was compare to the MB S-class and the BMW 7 series; the LS won. The comparison was done in German, don't belief me do a search on this website. This article was posted on autospies.com I think several weeks ago.

The Lexus LS460 won, period. If you want to talk about a big bloated lexury sedan, just look at the S-class and 7 Series. Yeah! you German fanboys wish the S-class, which already look outdated and the 7 Series look as good as the Lexus LS460.

If you German fanboys already tremble in terror and drool all over this Lexus LS460. Just wait until the Lexus LS600 hl come out; it will take over this segment for sure.

Yh u just forgot ( maybe ignoring ) the fact that a 745i kicked the lexus A$$ on a track. Not to mention the lexus has 47 more hp. DIE IN SHAME. The 7 series is an awesome car still.

oh no...i better make a long distance call and alert Lexus Corp. THE BIMMER WAS FASTER THAN THE LEXUS, surprise surprise. my question now is "so what?" that doesnt prove anything.

ALso, i would like to point out your wrong. According to edmunds.com, the LS460l that was just posted yesterday beats the S class and 7 series in acceleration. Bimmers are overated, just because they can handle well doesnt make it the best cars in the world.

lexus can excel in what they know best, luxury and technology. I really dont care if my lexus handles worse than a bimmer, at least i know i bought the right car.

You bring up that same article.

But I don't think the LS will win any other comparison.

One I can think of had the LS460L coming in last, in a test involving ALL the luxury sedans. Remember that?

There's no need to bash, and there's no need to bring up a German car magazine article for no reason in a completely irrelevant publicity article that's caused a useless flame war.

it won based on what criteria? quiet. sure. cushy ride. sure. softest leather. sure.

it bombs compared with the S on handling, acceleration, braking, rear seat room, styling (my opinion, but it's so easy to mistake the ES for an LS, not something one wants when spending major dollars for a sedan)

and i quote
"Driven harder at our test track, our Lexus LS 460 L maintained this high level of composure, despite the fact that it's softly tuned. Its 61.6-mph slalom speed falls squarely between the standard-wheelbase BMW 750i (60.2 mph) and the Mercedes S550 (63.9 mph). In comparison, the regular-wheelbase LS 460 carried 63.0 mph through the cones."

i believe that means it handles better than the bimmer IL model.

"The LS 460 L accelerates to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and reaches the quarter-mile in 14.3 seconds. This performance doesn't seem particularly noteworthy until you realize the L model is not only as quick as the standard-wheelbase model, but also quicker than both the BMW 750i and Mercedes-Benz S550."


http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=119408

thread closed.

Sorry but Edmunds and acceleration don't go hand in hand. The numbers are inconsistent and are almost pointless if they are not accomplished in one test.

Car and Driver tested all of the luxo barges and the LS handled the worse and was slower than MB or BMW.

agree with chewy. comparisons are useless unless conducted at the same time (and hence under the same road, weather and altitude conditions).

faulty methodology for edmunds to draw these kinds of comparisons. as with motor trend, i have often found error in their reporting. car & driver seems to be the most accurate and careful about their testing and reporting.

Ah....ha...ha...he...he..he... It really fun seeing all the German fanboys get really piss off at Lexus. Hey! don't hate Lexus for making better than the BMW and MB.

Lexus

Lexus

this isn't about lexus for me. in all fairness if oprah pulled out in an S550, I would still say "WHO CARES?"

not pissed off. it's just pointless when you continue to make blanket statements like "lexus LS is the best" without explaining why. and always talking about lexus whether or not a thread has anything to do with lexus. just explain yourself and the reasons why you think it's the best.

"LexusKindaGuy12" Edmunds is tottally off the mark...thread closed.

Toyota makes great appliances, wrapped in leather.

agreed. the reasons to buy lexus are the same as for high-end kitchen appliances: quiet, reliable and good service. lol.

And why are you getting all worked up over people you don't even know?

EVERYONE STOP SHUT UP WHO CARES IT'S OPRAH WOW THIS IS SO STUPID!!!!!!!

Look at NARunner's post. If it was an S550, 750Li, A8L or Super V8 she had driven on stage in, WE STILL WOULDN'T CARE. OPRAH DOESN'T MATTER, LEXUS FANS. THIS IS A CAR WEBSITE.

One of the reasons I thumb through posts on this site is because so many idiots post comments that give me a good laugh. Does Oprah liking the LS mean its a good car or let me guess she walks to work so this is the first and only car she’s ever liked??? What do you expect her to say if the car is being marketed on her show. This is simply a smart advertisement for a product using a medium such as a highly rated talk show that reaches a shitload of viewers. I bet she loves Pontiacs too after all she gave one to everyone who attended her show when the new G6 came out over 2 years ago.. Oprah also drives a Chevy impala so now what does that tell you??? Warren buffet the father of all investors and one of the richest men in the world drives a Lincoln and so what? Houstoncutie is ostensibly pumped up about listing celebrities that drive Lexus. What a joke!! Are you looking for validation for what's essentially a good car that's geared towards people who don't really enjoy driving?? Here's some news for you. Bloomberg also has an A8, and his daughter Georgina drives a black Q7, Seal drives a silver Q7, Mariah Carey has an A8, the whole real Madrid soccer team drive Q7s, Bobby Rahal, and his son Graham Rahal drive RS4s..and the list goes on..so.what does this all mean?...nothing!! For one thing, most celebrities can afford, and tend to own many cars some have 10 car garages that include most luxury makes Cadillac, Lexus, Audi, BMW, Mbenz, Ferrari...you name it!! Even celebrities like Jay Leno who are also real car guys have scores of cars made up of different marques. Does Bill Gates have only one car?? Here's a "reality check" Lexus is good car, but certainly in the US its basically a chick-car or for men that pee sitting down. Almost 50% of the Autos sold by Lexus in the US are SUV's of which 70% are driven by women (especially the RX). The ES & LS are driven by either women (just over 50%) or 70 year old men that think driving feedback is the voice in your navigation system. Do the math, and you’ll find that over 60% of Lexus drivers are women (that’s almost 2 of 3), and the rest are retirees leaving a small % of what I call “outlier buyers”.. The LS is basically a floaty bouncy more reliable Buick that takes a lot longer to stop, and Toyota is not stupid. They can build a better handling car if they really wanted to, but that will alienate their target market, whose needs they cater too very well. Want something that handles, get an Audi, BMW or Benz or Infinity. Why doesn’t Lexus have an enthusiast club???? Because most Lexus owners are not enthusiasts..period!!! Who will run the club..a bunch of housewives and geriatrics talking about nail polish, Viagra and Depends “undergarments” Give me a break…no more stupid comments!. Don’t look to celebrities to validate what you’re driving. Drive what you want, but just be sure to quickly get out of my way when you’re doing 40mph in the left lane, and you see the 4 rings in your rear

"for men that pee sitting down" - classic.

Prince Charles also has an A8L. Just to add to the list.

LOL.

continued..."rear view mirror!!!"

exactly. a lexus fan club on the web. not one that actualy DRIVES the cars. but a club that simply talks about their cars.

does lexus even have a performance driving school like BMW or mercedes?

Thegenius
You are trully a genius. I think lexus fanboys(stupid ones) will shut up for a while.

cdoke - 2/2/2007 9:28:02 PM

"FOR LEXUS TO MAKE A CAR FOR ONLY $80,000 TO IMPRESS THE RICHEST WOMAN IN AMERICA "

Uh....The richest woman in America? Hardly. She is number 242 on Forbes 400 and worth 1.5 billion. The wealthiest women in America are the Waltons [there are 3 of them I believe], each is worth around $15.6 billion. They don't drive Lexus': they have American made pickups.

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Isn't she the richest black lady or black person in America instead of being THE richest lady in America..

Yes, that is correct. Actually, from what I have seen she is the wealthiest black person in the world. houstoncutie was minus one important word in there.

Will,
You're clueless, and you said the key word. "On the web"!! That's my exact point. Lexus has websites in US, UK, and Australia for discussing Lexus cars not driving them. If you own a lexus, how many "real" events have you been to? I'm talking about a very organized club with lots of real events and a burgeoning membership not one-offs come check out the new GS..I'll setup some cones in shopping mall parking lot....you're talking about a club you experience online..dude buy an Xbox!! Sorry my mistake its probably more fun discussing Lexuses on the web than actually driving the cars. Listen, my good man, I know this because some of my friends have Lexuses, and I've taken them to "real" events all over. Mont-Tremblanc, Poconos speedway.. you name it.. all they complain about is how the lexus keeps "reorganizing" the club and can't get their act together, but I tell them you are the outliers..most of your members are getting their nails done..
If Lexus wants to sell more LS's they should throw in a free make-up kit ..I'm sure Houstoncutie would love it!!

About Oprah, I believe she's the richest self-made woman in the US, and one of the richest self-made in the world. The Waltons inherited their wealth from good old Sam.

WILL, you're a waste of time!!! you obviously WILL never get it. Go back and re-read my post or ask someone to explain it to you.
1) The reference to the make-up kit is the Lexus demographics: women or certain men!! doesn't say
anything about Lexus needing help to sell cars (in fact I think Lexus has one of the best if not the best marketing, and certainly knows how to market their cars.)
2) If you still do not understand the difference between an autoclub that actually drives cars and one that spends time discussing them online..I rest my case!! I doubt that you own a Lexus, but if you do..you'll make a perfect case study for what I've been saying..

Huu76, if you think spending time with fellow car enthusiasts at an event is posing, I'm forced to ask if you've ever been to the events of "any" car club?? Have you, and if so which one, and can you describe what happened at the event, and how many posers you saw there? Your statement is so incredibly ignorant it borderline scares me.. Can I ask what you drive?

didn't anyone notice that it took her 4 MIINUTES to park the car? seriously? it shouldn't take more than 30 seconds for the most novice driver to parallel park a car. imagine the slowdown in traffic as as rows of cars are held up while the 65 year old driver of the LS trys to park it using this system. isn't technology supposed to make things more efficient?

oh right, and the system only works if the spot is SIX FEET bigger than the car! good luck finding that in manhattan or any other major city in america.

Okay, I'm just an average teenager but you guys sound like kids fighting over which toy is better in a toy store.

Reason why I don't like German car: over rated, arrogant snob, over price, cheap plastic interior, and poor realibility. The last remember they did a comparison the German realiblity did really bad. Compare to Lexus which took most top spot for being the most realible vechicles.

reasons why i like german cars: innovative design, superior driving experience in terms of handling and braking, diversity of engine and transmission options, very high quality (of course, nearly every car made today is quite reliable).

and apparently the market agrees. there's a reason mercedes and bmw are able to command significant premiums over their competitors: millions of purchasers a year believe they're worth more (MB and BMW combined sell well over 2 million cars per year).

Reason why I don't like German car: over rated, arrogant snob, over price, cheap plastic interior, and poor realibility. The last remember they did a comparison the German realiblity did really bad. Compare to Lexus which took most top spot for being the most realible vechicles.



Funny, Lexus are incredibly overrated cars themselves. The IS for example is sold as a BMW 3er killer when in reality it's not. The IS also has an overrated interior, I know, I testdrove one and wasn't at all impressed. But what can we expect from a guy called "Lexus" badmouthing German cars? Exactly. Pure bias.

willis I'm not swithing anything up,I'm telling the honest truth of what I noticed at the Auto Show,and that was not too many people in the German section and lots of people in the Lexus Section.

The reason I think that Lexus was downstairs is because the needed more space than the German automakers!

2JZSoarer,

Spare us. You're a known Toyota/Lexus fanboy and I have a hard time believing most of what you tell us. I was there too, I saw that all sections were well-visited.

Also, your last comment gave you away:

"The reason I think that Lexus was downstairs is because the needed more space than the German automakers!"

Audi, BMW and Mercedes offer more product variety in the US meaning they have more models to showcase than Lexus. In fact, Lexus would need a smaller room.

"You also forget to point out that that review clearly said up-front they tested the sedans more from a sports-bias. Had they tested them from a LUXURY-bias, the results would have been drastically different, and we all know it."

Well, that recent French review in which the LS460 also came in last is evidence that these publications are not all biased towards sport, and know most of the others are better cars in general.

I would choose the LS460 over the XJ (not XJR), but I've never driven a 750 (just a 745), so I can't say there. What would probably happen, if I were looking:

1. S550 4Matic
2. A8L quattro
3. 750Li
4. LS460L
5. Vanden Plas

Different wants needs for different people, Will. I'm sure your list would come out differently. Does that mean I'm WRONG? Of course not!

Yes. The S-Class's comfort is the bar by which the LS is measured. You say JUST AS comfortable. Not more comfortable.

Which leads me to ask... why not have a car with supreme comfort AND supreme handling, instead of one with ONLY supreme comfort? Lexus fans overlook this with these cars. It's so stupid, I just laugh out loud. There's not a reason in the world to buy an LS over an S-Class... you have to pinch pennies.

Great...one more thing for Oprah to be an "expert" on...God better watch out, Oprah is gaining momentum. Source: Harpo Studios.

This is an Lexus article, it hasn't mentioned anything about comparison to a German car, stick to a topic related to this article and not bash each other, some Lexus fan boys are too die hard, don't be because you won't get a reward from Lexus....LS is a great luxury car for value and putting it on the show is a good idea for advertisement(it has generated a lot of user comments)

The Lexus interiors suck, TBH, against manufacturers like Mercedes, and BMW.

The Lexus interiors suck, TBH, against manufacturers like Mercedes, and BMW.