AutoExpress: R8 "doesn’t quite beat the 911"!!

AutoExpress: R8
Moments of truth don’t get much bigger than this... As tall orders go, Audi’s sensational new R8 faces the very tallest of them all. And it all comes down to one big question. Is the mid-engined two-seater better than a Porsche 911? Specifically, is it more exciting to drive and easier to live with than its German rival – regarded as one of the greatest sports cars of all-time?

It might sound a bit melodramatic, but there’s plenty at stake. If Audi has got the R8 wrong, it could reverse the excellent progress it has made with cars such as the TT and A4 Cabriolet.

This is the daring position the firm has put itself in, and as we climbed behind the wheel for our exclusive first drive, we could swear that at least two members of Audi’s top brass were exchanging worried glances.

First impressions, however, are very good. Not only does the car have great road presence, but the V8 engine is a work of art and sounds spectacular. The 4.2-litre FSI unit sits behind the driver’s head in a carbon fibre nest, and as the revs climb, you can almost hear its 420bhp, 187mph potential.

Select first gear, and the open-gate, six-speed box clicks noisily as the lever hits the end of its travel. Shifts are millimetre precise, and the cogs prove easy to engage. Accel­eration is relent­less, and the 0-60mph dash is completed in less than 4.5 seconds. Wheelspin is minimised by the four-wheel-drive transmission.

In fact, our only criticism is aimed at the clutch, which can prove tricky to use smoothly at very low speeds, even though our car was fitted with an electronic anti-stall device, which as an £80 option is probably not worth it.

Predictably, the suspension is firm, particularly on the first version of the R8 that we tried, which did not feature Audi’s magnetic ride suspension system. You can feel every crease in the tarmac in a car which appears nothing less than 100 per cent ready for the racetrack. As a result, the loss of comfort is traded for high-speed stability and huge amounts of grip.

The steering is incredibly responsive, and even the slightest turn causes the R8 to change direction. On the downside, the system does lack the delicacy and feel of the 911’s.

However, when equipped with the £1,350 optional magnetic ride, the R8 deals with small bumps more effectively. The system boasts two modes, comfort and sport, but even in the latter it is more forgiving than the standard set-up. Impressively, magnetic ride has little effect on the steering quality, or the amount of grip on offer.

The brakes are another story. Both steel and ceramic set-ups will be offered, although the latter won’t be available in the UK until next year. But while the ceramic units are massively powerful, pedal progression has an on/off feel, and they clearly need fine tuning. The steel brakes are much more user-friendly. While lacking the ceramic system’s ultimate power, they are more than capable of slowing the car while driving on the road.

So if you want the very best that Audi’s R8 has to offer right now, plump for the magnetic ride suspension and steel brakes, and avoid the automatic R tronic gearbox; the manual is simply delightful.
At this early stage, we would have to say this car doesn’t quite beat the 911. However, that shouldn’t leave Audi’s engineers crying into their Ger­man beer. The motor has the character and ability to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with its rival, an achievement that shouldn’t be underestimated.

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jon21jon21 - 2/14/2007 3:17:08 PM
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The article does not sound impressed by audi. Porsche is still the King.


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 2/14/2007 10:04:16 PM
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you can save thousands off MSRP on a 911 and the R8 looks like it will sell for $10-20k over msrp

who is the king?


webguywebguy - 2/14/2007 3:41:22 PM
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The article is very vague and uninformative on how, exactly, the 911 "beats" the R8. I expect a little more from a fairly reputable magazine making such a lofty claim. In any case, I wouldn’t expect Audi’s first consumer "supercar" to "beat" the flagship car of a company that has been doing nothing but this segment for decades.

If it’s my money though, the 911’s more "delicate" steering feel would have little weight in my buying decision. It’s close enough to the 911, Nurburgring is far, far away for me and the R8 is just more my kind of style. That’s enough for me, and probably enough for many other buyers.



rg12345rg12345 - 2/14/2007 11:11:03 PM
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Same here !


Sauceboy01Sauceboy01 - 2/14/2007 3:43:04 PM
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PASS


answeranswer - 2/14/2007 3:50:49 PM
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I'll take the R8.


hkaudihkaudi - 2/14/2007 6:01:46 PM
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Same here!


themantheman - 2/14/2007 4:50:22 PM
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Never liked Porsche, and never will, as long as they keep making what "looks" like the same car..R8 is without a doubt a better all round car no matter what anyone say's, and this is coming from someone who has no interest in the Audi brand...That black one looks WOW!


AE86AE86 - 2/14/2007 7:57:52 PM
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Porsche hasn't bought VW yet and hopefully they won't.


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 2/14/2007 10:05:00 PM
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not both VAG



trd1trd1 - 2/14/2007 6:03:56 PM
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the R8 is way more atractive and eyecatching, so if its performence is a little less then a 911, it doesn't matter and it matters how you drive it. so i would take the R8, fo sho.


EvoAudiEvoAudi - 2/14/2007 7:22:38 PM
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R8 is just way more attractive and presence demanding.


LexusLexus - 2/14/2007 7:41:36 PM
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I notice that as well, that most, if not all Porsche look the same to me. Secondly, to bad they says the Porsche is better, probably because due the "Heritage" thingy. I'm really a big fan of Audi but hand down the R8 look better than the standard 911.


rg12345rg12345 - 2/14/2007 11:10:37 PM
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I know, I can never tell which one is which.


Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 2/15/2007 2:53:07 AM
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You guys are nuts! ;) The 911 is one of the most beautiful cars ever created. Why mess with a beautiful thing? If you were the pope, you'd say "You know, the Sistine Chapel looks the same every year and I cant tell it apart from other Michelangelos. It really needs to be freshened." LOL


LexusLexus - 2/14/2007 7:42:48 PM
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correction, I'm really "NOT" really a big fan of Audi but hand down the R8 look better than the standard 911.

Lexus


LexusLexus - 2/14/2007 7:43:54 PM
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Correction again, LOL:) I'm Not really a big fan etc...


aussiecarnutaussiecarnut - 2/14/2007 8:39:49 PM
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Correction, you're boring everyone - stop trying to prove a point.


chewychewy - 2/14/2007 10:13:29 PM
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The fancy magazine writers can never admit that something is better than the 911. However, when the R8 is stacked up against the 911 head to head the result is obvious.

Without a direct comparison any magazine writer is instructed to say that the 911 is superior because it is a Porsche. Waiting for a real head to head comparison like the one from Motor Trend that had the R8 as the winner.


Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 2/15/2007 3:00:06 AM
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As it should have against a Carrera 4. The Audi only carries $33K over the Porsche! A GT3 or Turbo would be a better comparison in price.


rg12345rg12345 - 2/14/2007 11:20:24 PM
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Interior sucks ? Man, you lost it right there. When u say something that stupid everything else you might say loses it's credibility.

I just saw the R8 today at the Auto show, splendid car, excellent car, superb car ... etc :)

MotorTrend got 0-60 in 4.1 seconds, that is just FINE for me (I always think that a $250.000 Ferrari or Lambo is getting around 3.5), so 4 is not that bad. For myself. With all the standard luxury you get from any Audi, with the sporty look and drive, the R8 is my favorite for now. Not saying you can't get something better, but not for those money.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 2/14/2007 11:25:41 PM
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I'll take an R8, please. Black, carbon fiber sideblade, and the best interior color you've got. Loaded? Of course!


HeyhuubHeyhuub - 2/16/2007 5:46:33 AM
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Because it's faster, way better looking, higher quality, more exclusive etc, etc, etc.


rackrack - 2/16/2007 9:57:15 AM
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There is a huge difference between a 5.1 car and a 4.1 car in term of price. W/ mercedes you pay about 60k for .5 second 0-60.

Besides when you drive an STI its impossible to be over 25 and viewed as an adult while in one.




BigQBigQ - 2/18/2007 3:20:55 PM
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The R8 is beautiful. Hopefully, they will at least keep the price below the Porsche GT3 price. If you compare the price of a the R8 in the UK it is about the same amount as a 911 Targa 4S. In the US that's a little than a $100k. I'd pay that. At a $110k though, I'd feel like I should have bought the 911 GT3 because at that price you just bought a 911 and a Passat. If Porsche updates with similar tail lights, the R8 might not even make sense.


SHOWTIMESHOWTIME - 3/15/2007 7:22:42 PM
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I take better shits than the 911 carrera...lol


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