2007 GENEVA AUTO SHOW-It's official-Next BMW M3 to debut in Geneva

2007 GENEVA AUTO SHOW-It's official-Next BMW M3 to debut in Geneva
At the upcoming Geneva Motor Show BMW will show a concept car of the new M3 Coupe. However, the production version – for release this summer - will look in various details different from the concept, as can be seen on these prototype shots.

While the concept car has the license plate in the lower bumper area, it will show up in the production model between the taillights in the boot lid, as before.

However, the new M3 coupe will not be all – BMW will extend the model range further by the steel roofed convertible in spring 2008 and a first time four door version of the M3, this one for launch by the end of 2008.

The cars will get power from a powerful 4,0 litre V8 420 HP engine, accelerating in 4,6 sec. to 100 km/h.

Source: E90Fanatics


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BMWRocksBMWRocks - 2/21/2007 12:15:32 PM
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I wish the M3 looks more aggressive. But, the engine numbers are perfect. Can't wait for this car to come out. 2007 is going to be a wanderful year.


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 2/22/2007 12:06:33 AM
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i knew 001 couldn't keep a Audi on the front page for that long

here is his true love BMW




BMWMPowerBMWMPower - 2/22/2007 4:31:30 AM
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The pictures here are photoshops and not the final M3. The bonnet bulge has been photoshopped poorly and plus the M3 will not have fog lights.


RealSanaiiRealSanaii - 2/21/2007 12:31:43 PM
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OOOOOOHHHH I CAN'T WAIT!

IS-F, C63AMG, and RS5.... and THIS!

It will be a happy 2008 for everyone!


answeranswer - 2/21/2007 12:46:22 PM
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I thought there was already a 4 door M3 a generation or two back.

The new M3 will be cool indeed. Can't wait for the first M3/ISF comparison test.


LavicLavic - 2/21/2007 12:50:34 PM
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The E36 M3 was available in 1997 and 1998 as a sedan.


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/21/2007 1:13:40 PM
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yea i was gonna comment on that to, its not the first M3 sedan


EL34EL34 - 2/21/2007 12:56:52 PM
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From what I see here the M3 is damn near perfect.

BMW does it again and again and again.

and again!


razzy23razzy23 - 2/21/2007 1:33:28 PM
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yup!


supermotosupermoto - 2/21/2007 1:40:55 PM
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The new M3 will seriously pwn just about any other car. I'm betting most manufacturs are bracing themselves and waiting for reviews to see just how high the bar is being raised.


LavicLavic - 2/21/2007 1:56:51 PM
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Doubtful that manufacturers would take the luxury to wait that long. Their engineers are probably hard at work to surpass numbers that are already floating around.


cckwcckw - 2/21/2007 1:52:13 PM
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Yeah but it will eat the dust from my EVO X on the track!


02WRX02WRX - 2/21/2007 8:20:40 PM
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That's extremely relevant for all of us who have race tracks in our backyards.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 2/23/2007 4:25:01 PM
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Uh ok.


WhatttWhattt - 2/21/2007 2:27:51 PM
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I've ALWAYS like the M3 but I feel that BMW still has some fine tuning that needs to be done on the body of this car, (especially the back). The wheels look to small for an M3 and 420 HP will not cut it for the next 6 or so years of this cars life.



AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 2/21/2007 2:43:18 PM
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Thanks agent 001.
The full engine spec as the article mentioned has not been finalised yet. Like I mentioned in another post, there is a 10% variability between the concept and the production car.
With regards to performance, the M3 has its eyes set in the 911 and the AM V8, so that should tell us a lot about the potential of this car.
Remember, if they can keep the weight below 3500 lbs( which is a challenge), the 420 HP is more than adequate.
Just wait and see.


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 2/21/2007 2:50:52 PM
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Ugly, only mother could love. Many of you bashing the hot looking IS-F before now have to face this Ugly child.


SilverAeroSilverAero - 2/21/2007 3:58:05 PM
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Funny i feel that way about the IS-F. It has a body only a current asain car driver could love. But seriously why does every topic have to be brought back to lexus.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 2/21/2007 10:20:58 PM
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The IS350 has a great body, but the IS-F ruins it with the repulsive hood and tacky side scoops.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 2/21/2007 10:31:30 PM
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agree that the IS350 is a nice looking car. IS-F is a monster. no contest between the M3 and the IS-F when it comes to styling. M3 is hands-down the better looking car. can't wait to drive it.


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 2/22/2007 10:32:30 AM
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i agree and so did my friends. We did see the IS-F in person in Chicago at the black tie event . The overall judgement is it looks like a civic on steroids. Nothing fits styling wise on that car. They should have left the side scoops and stacked exhausts at home.


WhatttWhattt - 2/21/2007 3:24:47 PM
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AdmiralT20
You're right !
Weight will be the factor in this senario.


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/21/2007 4:11:54 PM
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yea but at the end of the day, its still just a nissan!


Need4SpeedNeed4Speed - 2/21/2007 5:13:51 PM
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I'll tell you something even funnier...watching the $70,000 GT-R try to run away from a 4 door EVO VIII. That's gonna be hilarious!


Need4SpeedNeed4Speed - 2/21/2007 5:15:58 PM
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I almost forgot to mention....a $35,000 EVO VIII. Seems like the GT-R will be a complete waste of money!


weaponXweaponX - 2/21/2007 4:06:24 PM
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There won't be much of a weight gain with this new M3 since the new V8 will weigh about the same as the outgoing inline six.

With that power/weight ratio, the car could reach 60 mph in the low 4's.

I just wish the car would look slightly more aggressive.

Regardless, still the benchmark for sporty coupes.





LexusLexus - 2/21/2007 6:55:06 PM
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This new M3 will definitely have some serious performance number. But to bad, it really UGLY when compare to the Lexus IS-F, Audi RS4 and the new G35.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 2/21/2007 10:22:05 PM
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How is the G35 an M3 competitor?

How is the IS-F good-looking? I've said the IS350 is- and it is. But the IS-F...?


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 2/22/2007 10:36:08 AM
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agree with the S4 ..... News Flash, the G35 couldnt even beat out the 2006 330 sedan!! Have you even driven the G35? Once you do, go drive a 335. The 335 kills the G35 in every which way. Again the IS-F, looks like someone asked a 18yr old kid to build him a car.


Terminal10Terminal10 - 2/21/2007 7:36:15 PM
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Well I do not post very often on this site because the topics are always the same but as far as this new M3 goes this will the a very tight race this year with all the competition RS4, Mercedes, etc. May the best car company win!


AE86AE86 - 2/21/2007 10:23:56 PM
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Ok, I am a "German FanBoy", but I LOVE the EVO. I am thinking about getting an EVO IX MR right now. I like the looks of the X, but DSG doesn't sit well with me. The GTI DSG is great, but I want to shift myself. I hear there will be a 5 speed available, but with a turbocharged engine with as much lag as the EVO has, you pretty much need all 6 speeds.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 2/21/2007 10:23:06 PM
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I can't wait. Perhaps I'll be one of the lucky few who get to choose between these beasts.

Let the M3 vs. RS4/RS5 vs. C63 AMG vs. IS-F vs. CTS-V fight begin!

Everyone's forgotten about the new CTS-V, BTW...


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 2/21/2007 10:54:41 PM
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From the latest info, the segment is going to be interesting
The Cl63 AMG will have the same 6.3 litre V8 with 517 HP @ 6800 rpm and 467 ft.lbs of Torque.
The problem with the Cl63 AMG is that it will weigh 4376 lbs, making it do the 0-60 sprint in 4.6
Of all the German carmarkers, the RS4 might end up being the slowest of the 3.
How the IS-F and the CTS-V will fair is something we will have to wait and see. I wonder when Lexus will release the full specs of the IS-F?


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/22/2007 1:02:16 AM
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admiral- i believe you mean the C63 not Cl, also no way the C63 AMG will have 512 HP, more like 450HP-480HP.

Also the RS4 has done 0-60 in 4.3 sec, so the 4.6 you mentioned for the C63 would make it the slowest. But its not out yet so we have no clue


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/22/2007 1:03:29 AM
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sorry 517HP, not 512


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 2/23/2007 1:28:49 PM
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Thanks JmrA480.
The C63 AMG will not be 517. I believe that will detuned, and from the press release earlier, it will be in the 450+ HP realm. The question to be asked of the C63AMG will be the weight. sincerely hope they can keep it below 4000 lbs- but that seems to be wishful thinking.


CactoesGelCactoesGel - 2/21/2007 10:23:16 PM
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I dunno, but with how the ISF and RS5 concept look like, this M3 may very well be the least aggressive looking. I mean, the engine is way better, but the body is practically the same with very little changes. I dont' like it so far.


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 2/21/2007 10:39:05 PM
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Trust me, you will change your view about the E9X M3 when it is unveiled in about 2 weeks.
It is a mean looking machine.


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/22/2007 1:06:07 AM
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decider, i think he means better then the regular 3 series engines, and buy better i believe he means more powerful. I dont think he meant better then the RS4 engine or IS-F engine.


AE86AE86 - 2/21/2007 10:24:22 PM
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Forgot to mention, this M3 looks pretty boring.


supermotosupermoto - 2/22/2007 3:24:51 PM
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We haven't even seen any official photos yet! Let's wait and see.


LexusLexus - 2/22/2007 12:08:39 AM
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This is really exciting with all this sportcars coming and competing for customers,(us). I would definitely would like to test drive all of them.


LexusLexus - 2/22/2007 12:11:32 AM
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Probably after they find out how many hp the new BMW M3, C-class, and CTS-V has first.


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 2/22/2007 1:24:10 AM
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Boooo go back to the drawing board with this car,it's predecessor looks ten times better,this car is truely boring,I'll take a the old M3 or IS-F over this car anyday!!


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 2/22/2007 1:32:13 AM
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You guys forget to mention the next Supra,I think the GTR R35 should be shaking in it's boots!!!


XhosaMafiaXhosaMafia - 2/22/2007 5:14:59 AM
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it is so surprising at times that the so called "motoring journalists" lack information. There was an E36 M3 4 door made in South Africa.

E90335i surprised me yesterday when he said only the 328i(E46) was made in SA for the US market. I was working for BMWSA in 2001/2002 and all available engines were fitted in all the models destined for the US.318i.....330i and 330d

4 Sho


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 2/22/2007 10:05:14 AM
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for the last four years at least the only BMW's made in South Africa that came to the U.S. were E46 325i's and E90 328i's. They might make other cars there but for vehicles they brought over to the U.S. it was/is only the rear drive, base engine sedans.


supermotosupermoto - 2/22/2007 3:23:19 PM
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Exactly right, Bulldogz. And what about the 911. It would be highly embarrasing if the M3 matched or beat the 911 Carrera on the track....


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/22/2007 3:49:30 PM
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super- if your talking about the base 911, then yes the M3 should have better performance numbers, it will have over 90+ hp more, the RS4 has better numbers then the base 911. i think c&D or road and track did a comparo between the RS4 and carerra 4s, and the 4s barely beat the RS4, but does that mean the 4S is not worth its price, no, the 4S is an amazing car.


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/22/2007 3:53:26 PM
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bull- well a Carerra 4s is about the same as the R8, yet has 65hp less, whats your point? its not all about HP


WhatttWhattt - 2/22/2007 10:45:42 AM
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The Mercedes competitor to the M3 would be the 4dr C63 and the 2dr CLK63, (the latter is already on MBUSA.com with 475hp). The CLK63 comes with a hefty price tag, much higher then the competition.


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 2/23/2007 1:30:25 PM
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There will be no HUD in the M3.


BM3WBM3W - 2/23/2007 4:03:38 PM
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It's hard to imagine how BMW could top the 2007 Audi RS4. Then again, if there's one car that could put the Audi in its place it's the 2008 BMW M3. Buckle up it's going to be quite a ride.


jmrA480jmrA480 - 2/23/2007 5:31:10 PM
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as an audi fan , i agree with you that its gonna be tough for the M3 to top the RS4, but i also agree that if any car in this class will top it, its only gonna be the M3. Its gonna be a very interesting comparison.


weaponXweaponX - 3/5/2007 9:33:32 AM
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It's hard to imagine how anybody can even compare the current RS4 to the upcoming M3.

The M3 will make the same horsepower minus 500 lbs.

There's no comparison to be made, the M3 will set the standard once again.
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