Flower Power in the 21th century. Koenigsegg´s response to Al Gore.

Even the greenies at the Sierra Club can see through the

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200701/decoder.asp

Also, Car and Driver reported that the regular CCX didn't feel like it had all that 800+hp (they say it was hot day) The regular version makes a lot of power out of a relatively small engine (reliability?)

Cool cars but I have yet to be 100% sold on one.

can see through the hype

Strange post merits a strange response lol

I too have yet to be 100% sold on one, as I have yet to find 100% of the purchase price in disposable cash.

CCX (plus top gear wing) is still at the top of the Top Gear power laps board... Too bad it doesn't feel like it it has 800+ hp....

I would like to hear Greeny Gore tell us why the Dust Bowl in the Mid West to Canada happened between 1931 and 1939?

There were very few cars at that time and atom bombs hadn't been invented.

Come on Mister Bore, enlighten us?

Didn't it occur because of "dry farming"?

Yes, but in that entire area of land there was a drought for 9 years.

What caused such unusual weather conditions, was it global warming?

The people throughout the midwest are litterally dying for some "global warming" right now.

Autophile, and let it be on the 2007 record that groundhog Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow; thus bringing an end to winter early, but the groundhog was lying thru his teeth!

Bad groundhog.

I would like Al Gore to tell me why my butt itched this morning. Explain to me that Mr Gore!

I swear the posts get stranger and stranger as I scroll down.

I see Gore hasnt answered me yet either... Oh bother!

Threepoint1415926, and let us never to forget it was Gore who said, "I want to eliminate the combustion engine today".

Over use/farming of the land, and off course drought cycle came back during that time frame.

yes, peak oil theory says that we are at the pinnacle of consumption/production right now...production can only go down from here and i don't see consumption going down anytime soon. we need to be prepared for $10/gal gas.

junior, here's an article for you to read.

"From Ice Age to Global Warming in 30 years"

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=5543

[clears throat]...ifwyou would please pardon me for adding my two cents on this matter, but I am prety sure that I am the only person on here with a degree in Petroleum Engineering.

We are not running out of oil; we are running out of cheap oil, with compliments to Peter Terzakian. There is a massive difference. For example, there is more oil in western Colorado in the oil shales than there is in all of Saudi Arabia. There is even more in the Canadian Tar sands. The problem with this oil is that it is either bound to the shales, or bituminous [asphaltine] in nature.

As far as Hubbert's Theory [peak oil] that includes only convential rescources. I.E. light sweet crude, and it was successfully used to determine peak oil in the United States. Be that as it may the world situation is more complex. A lot of those who say that we are passing peak oil have actually said that befre and have revised their estimates. This theory does carry a primary assuption as well: that the annual production as a fraction of the total oil is linearly dependent with remaining oil. That is particularly probelmatic because it requires you to know the reserves.

As far as demand; it will go up. Even if every car were suddenly made independent of oil, there would still be a demand: there are an array of products which are made with petrochemicals.

CDCoke Is spot on, although I would love to hear his opinion on developing techniques and methods for harvesting this NA based oil. :)

Josh

p.s.
Koenigsegg CCXR = Hotness.

Lets power that car with nuclear power :)

Flower Power is Garbage. Build a real car!!! Who cares about gas mileage!!! Think Power!!! The only thing the swiss are good for is watches!!

Some good articles for all of the Global Warming E-chondriacs. Yes it is a hoax!!

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary
http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=192

P.S. Ethanol may produce less polution but it generates more pollution to make it. It also is not as efficient as good ole' gasoline!! Besides that fact some have said that producing more ethanol would dedicate some of our food supply and rob many poor of the food they could have thus creating a world hunger crisis in the future. But that is what liberal programs do is rob people of their diginity and kill millions. If you need the facts to back that up.... TRY ME!!!

"Liberal programs rob people and kill millions"

This is a tad sensational don't you think? The future of ethanol could be great if and when more efficient methods for producing it come about. They will come about as we invest, and promote its use. It is not an end all be all, but you can't just demonize it because of a few faults.

Yes.... Liberal ideas and programs kill people. Subsidizing an ethanol program will do the same. If private industry can make money off of it then it will work. Right now that is not the way it is going!!! It is completely subsidized thus a liberal program!!

What about the book Silent Spring by Racheal Carlson. They estimate her book resulting in the banning of DDT. Which has now been proven to be completely false killed over 50 million in Africa because they had no alternative pesticide to use once DDT was banned.

You don't think all of this Global Warming crap will result in the same!!

"The only thing the swiss are good for is watches!!"

Eh?? Whats that got to do with a car from Sweden?
- Swiss people are from SWITZERLAND.
- Swedes, or swedish people, are from SWEDEN
When are you americans ever going to learn that? ;)

So how did we go from ethanol to DDT and Africa?

"What about the book Silent Spring by Racheal Carlson. They estimate her book resulting in the banning of DDT. Which has now been proven to be completely false killed over 50 million in Africa because they had no alternative pesticide to use once DDT was banned.

You don't think all of this Global Warming crap will result in the same!!"

No I rarely connect dots so far apart as these. I see lots of faults with ethanol, and lots of benefits. It is all about looking at this stuff logically, and critically. Removing political belief systems which tend to pollute arguments like these.

This was a discussion in my mind, and an argument in yours. You have made up your mind and feel it your responsibility to ensure others agree. The fact that the first thing you source happens to be Silent Spring is almost comical.

Come back when you want to discuss ethanol and not politics.

Josh
p.s. I am pro using DDT against malaria, but don't feel it is the end all be all.

d1s,

Of course, it is very difficult to extract these heavy [low API] oils. In Canada at the moment they are lucky enough to be able to acutally mine it.

I attended the 26th annual Oil Shale Symposium hosted by CERI, and do know some of what is being done. Shell at the moment is using a procedure whereby they drill many multiple offset wells and then freeze them and the surrounding reservoir. The idea is to create an effective pressure boundary. As I recall they then inject water at high temperature and pressure. This decreases the viscosity thus promotes flow. It isn't quite that simple as I recall but that is the jist of it.

Exxon uses something they call "electrofrac". They fracture the formation by exceeding the mimimum horizontal stress through fluid pressure, and then pump metal beads as proppant. They then drill a well that intersects the end of the propped fracture. What they do is then run current though the metal laden fracture, which causes electrical resistance resulting in heat.

There is a possibility of using the research of one of my professors in this matter. Dr. Graves acquired from Boeing patents being used for laser drilling. She literally has a Star-Wars class laser [the same type they were going to use to shoot down nuclear weapons from space] which she can, through modifying the beam, either chip rock, melt rock or even vaporize rock. It she can melt it, she can heat it...we wouldn't want to melt the matrix itself, but instead to heat the matrix.

I love this knowledge. What are your fears going forward with extracting na oil? Do you feel alternatives(hybrids, alternative fuels) should get investment or na oil? Or some combination? I like the idea of a future of efficiency. Taking the best from all worlds. I have no idea of what that looks like.

Any ideas?

Fears? Well, to produce these barrels of oil the price of oil must be rather high and habitually so. The potential payoffs are IMMENSE. It is estimated that there are 1.5 TRILLION barrels of oil the American oil shales. If brought to market at oh $50 per barrel [and the price will likely go up] that is $75,000,000,000,000.00 [75 trillion] in assets in the ground. Now usually we only get a percentage of what is in the ground. Be that as it may, you start to produce it and this accumulation is sufficient to drop the price to almost nothing. Things however do take time.

Because it is such a massive accumulation my primary concern with it regards rock compressibility and subsidence of the land. Which is something that really needs looked at since at times the rock matrix alone cannot support the overburden stresses without some incorporated fluid pressure.

I agree with the fact that oil needs brought to a more efficient market. In fact if we could get so oil is a smaller part of our energy mix. Where we to start producing from Western Colorado and Utah in sufficient amounts, we could sell the oil to China and India, who have GDP growth that is FAR more dependent upon oil. Any trade deficit we had with China would disappear almost overnight as if it had never existed.

I recommend to you the book “A Thousand Barrels a Second” it is by Peter Tertzakian [who I have seen speak here at my school] and it is excellent. He does not go into the oil shales and the like so much but it does discuss trends in energy usage through time.

Again say it with me,

$75,000,000,000,000.00 [hold pinky next to edge of mouth]

Fears. I meant to say concerns. It seems everyone has a concern related to the use of na oil. I see now what your concerns are. I will check out the book.


1.5 trillion barrels is a lot, now if we could burn it in a way that may or may not warm this earth :)

Josh

One quick thing: 1.5 trillion BBLS is about 5 times the reserves of Saudi Arabia. It is in fact more oil than there is in all of the Middle East.

Oh great here we go again with the global warming debate and the flame wars. *sets up chair, eats popcorn*

As for this new CCX, nice! I like the CCx. It seems only fair that they improve on it.

Al Gore invented the internet. Don't forget that!