Toyota Considers Dropping Standard Features to Lower Tundra's MSRP

Toyota Considers Dropping Standard Features to Lower Tundra's MSRP
Over the last few days, a couple of articles have caught my eye. The first describes a new kind of wire coating that has debuted on the new Toyota Tundra. The second article reports that Toyota is considering reducing features in the new Tundra in order to be more cost-competitive with the domestics. Seems like the problem is obvious to me…

First, the new wire coating. Developed by Delphi, the new wire coating has a thickness equivalent to two (2) pieces of paper. The material being used isn’t the standard PVC, but a new material derived mostly from recycled plastic. The big benefit to this new material is that it requires much less of it to sufficiently coat a wire, reducing the size and weight of the wiring in the vehicle. Also, because it’s created from recycled plastics, it’s better for the environment. Pretty slick stuff.

Knowing Toyota, this is probably a change they’ll make to all of their vehicles over the next few years. Toyota is committed to making the best vehicle on the road, and this new material will help both reduce weight and help the environment. You can read the Delphi press release for more info.

As for the second article, the words “jaw-dropping” come to mind. A little background: for years, we’ve read about domestic auto manufacturers removing standard features from their vehicles in order to cut costs. Manufacturers call it a “product realignment”, but what that really means is that the same vehicle is going to have less equipment than it did before but still cost the same. This practice was so wide-spread in the late 90’s that it received the moniker “decontenting”.


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chewychewy - 4/3/2007 3:27:55 PM
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The truth is that the Tundra hasn't done very well so far.


Agent009Agent009 - 4/3/2007 4:12:48 PM
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The truth is the upper models have done very well.

The bottom line model is not priced correctly, and that is causing the concern. It is a difficult decision on what to do to make it more appealing. However that last estimate I heard was that the bottom model only accounts for only 10% of the total Tundra sales.


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 4/3/2007 6:39:43 PM
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The truth is F150 and Ram sales were down last month. And tho I havent seen the actual numbers from GM yet, their press release seems to indicate that the GM trucks had no increase either. Tundra sales were up last month.


Westside7thWestside7th - 4/3/2007 4:11:51 PM
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Nobody wants an ugly truck.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 4/4/2007 12:23:07 PM
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And the Tundra is waaaayyy to ugly to be on the road. The designers need to join the other guys who designed the Pontiac Asstek.


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 4/3/2007 4:18:05 PM
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I've seen as many Tundras on SoCal roads as I have seen of the new GM trucks (which have been out longer). But I have yet to see one base model, or regular cab model. Hopefully they have caught the error of their ways early enough.


chewychewy - 4/3/2007 4:25:47 PM
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I have seen only 1 Tundra, and about a dozen new GM Trucks. But if you look at the sales numbers, there was almost no increase for the Tundra for March against last year. For sure a brand new and much improved (and hella heavily advertised) product should have better increases.


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 4/3/2007 5:09:19 PM
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The Tundra was up 7.5% (adjusted for sales days, the actual number is about 11% higher). I havent seen the GM numbers but the GM press release did not indicate a sales gain for their trucks, as it did for other vehicles. Obviously this has to increase if Toyota is looking to sell 200,000 this year (a 60-70% increase). But never fear, they're on their way.


Terminal10Terminal10 - 4/3/2007 4:38:49 PM
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Anyone know how the Nissan Titan is doing in this segment? Because I tend to see the Titan and the Ridgeline a lot lately.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 4/4/2007 12:24:59 PM
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Titan and Ridgeline are two different segments. The Titan's a truck. The Ridgline's is by no means a truck. More of an El Camino type car.


montyz81montyz81 - 4/3/2007 4:39:21 PM
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I have yet to see one Toyota Tundra and I drive back and forth from Manchester NH to Boston MA every day. That should be plenty of stick time to see even a Yugo at its Sales peak. Actually, come to thin of it, I did see a Yugo yesterday!


jt716jt716 - 4/3/2007 6:50:43 PM
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Actually the F-150 had a rise but it was still down. Even though we shlc wait for the new one that will come out since its the oldest.


jt716jt716 - 4/3/2007 8:56:13 PM
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we haven't even got one single tundra.


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 4/3/2007 9:51:19 PM
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I have not seen any, but then again I rarely see any pickups in the ny metro area.


EL34EL34 - 4/3/2007 10:04:10 PM
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I've seen 3 of the new Tundras.

It's time Toyota to lower the price to $10,000 fully loaded.


Will_Will_ - 4/3/2007 11:51:30 PM
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Let's stay rational and realize that the number of vehicles YOU may personally see does NOT directly coincide with the vehicle's sales...


XYZZXYZZ - 4/4/2007 5:15:03 AM
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yup.


XYZZXYZZ - 4/4/2007 5:26:38 AM
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look, the tundra never sold more than 125,000 a year, and has only been around since 2000.

ford sells almost a million a year, and had been doing that just about forever. combine chevy and gm, it's MORE than a mil a year, every year.......

so hey, OF COURSE you're going to see almost 8 f-150s and MORE than 8 chev/gmc for every SINGLE tundra.

some peeple are SO math challenged ;).


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 4/4/2007 9:21:08 PM
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What are you trying to prove? That the Tundra sells less? For a moment I thought you were a GM fan. That was an odd post for trying to be pro-Toyota.


XYZZXYZZ - 4/4/2007 5:38:49 AM
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when you start seeing ONLY 6 or 7 new domestic trucks for every new tundra, you can bet detroit will start getting nervous.

and that's on the NATIONAL AVERAGE. on the west coast, i wouldn't be surprised if toyota has not already achieved or even surpassed that ratio.


truckmentruckmen - 4/4/2007 6:30:57 AM
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To compete with the big three toy would have to make a vehicle better first off and with such a high price and high dealer financing from toyota why would anyone buy a toy? The big three all have 0-1% financing and a lower cost up front.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 4/4/2007 12:26:45 PM
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And all to enhance the depreciation of the Big 3. That's why you're super hooked in a domestic rig as soon as you sign up. O%, that's the biggest hook in the world and it kills car and truck owners when it's replacement time.


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