Lexus GS450h stands out

Lexus GS450h stands out
Hybrid technology is complicated, but it amounts to an electric motor that aids a car’s gasoline engine. The assistance can manifest itself as increased fuel economy, improved performance or both. America has embraced the fuel-efficient hybrid, but the performance hybrid has yet to catch on.
Toyota Motor Company, the leader in hybrid technology, has found sales success with fuel-economy-based hybrids such as the Prius, Highlander Hybrid and Camry Hybrid. Toyota’s luxury division, Lexus, introduced the GS450h performance hybrid last year with modest results.

With sales of only about 160 cars per month, the GS450h is on pace for roughly 2000 sales in 2007. That’s not the type of success Toyota is used to, but that doesn’t mean the GS450h is a bad car. Let’s examine how it stacks up against other GS models as well other cars in its class. To find out, we’ll first take a look at what you get for your money.
The GS450h is part of Lexus’ midsize luxury lineup that competes against the likes of the Audi A6, BMW 5-Series, Infiniti M and Mercedes-Benz E-Class. The GS stable also includes the GS350 and the GS430. The GS350 starts at $44,845 and has a 3.5-liter V-6 that makes 303-horsepower. Standard features include curtain side airbags, front knee airbags, antiskid control and leather upholstery.

The $55,615 GS450h uses the same 3.5-liter V-6 as the GS350, but it is teamed with two electric motors to produce an aggregate 340 horsepower. The transmission is a continuously variable automatic that constantly adjusts gear ratios instead of changing gears, though the driver can also manually choose from six preset gear ratios.
The GS450h also has rear side airbags, front and rear obstacle detection, a rearview camera, rain-sensing wipers, and a power rear sunshade-all of which are optional on the GS430. That would be more than enough to justify the $2,525 price difference if the powertrains were equal, but they’re not. The GS450h’s powertrain is better. In fact, it’s a technological marvel.

The GS450h’s gas engine doesn’t start until it’s needed, and it shuts off at stoplights, so the car can be on and the engine off. The electric motors are capable of powering the car at low speeds. The powertrain is more impressive, though, when you stomp the throttle. The GS450h can accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in a scant 5.3 seconds, 0.4 second faster than the V-8 model, and about a second faster than the base V-6. V-8 versions of the BMW 5-Series and Mercedes-Benz E-Class are slightly faster than the GS450h, but they also cost about $4,000 more. The V-8-powered Infiniti M45 is just as fast and costs about $5,000 less.

The upshot is the GS450h is fast. You will have no problem merging on the freeway, making that tight pass, or getting off to a quick start. Mixed with that V-8-like power is V-6 fuel economy. The EPA ratings are 25 mpg city and 28 highway, compared to 21/29 in the base V-6 model and 18/25 in the V-8 version.

Ride and handling are also quite good, though not up to the world-class standards set by BMW. The adjustable suspension includes sport and normal settings. As expected, handling is a bit sharper in sport mode, but the ride becomes a bit jiggly. The steering is nicely weighted and direct, but not as firm or as sharp as some of the best in the class.

Inside, the materials and build quality match anything offered by the competition. Attractive, soft-touch surfaces abound. While it takes a little time to get used to using the numerous controls, Lexus has, thankfully, opted not to use a central command system like Audi’s MMI or BMW’s iDrive. There a couple hybrid-only features. A power meter, which shows the kilowatts of Cboost the electric motors are giving the engine, takes the spot of the tachometer on the instrument panel. And those who choose the $1,900 navigation system get Consumption and Energy Monitor screens. The Consumption screen displays fuel economy in real time and one-minute increments, and the Energy Monitor screen shows when the gas engine and electric motors are in use.
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ATripATrip - 4/27/2007 9:58:26 AM
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Not a huge Lexus fan but I would take this over the LS600. The GS has always been the Lexus that stands out to me. Its a nice looking car.


WillisWillis - 4/27/2007 3:12:10 PM
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You sound like a BMW troll.

BMW world class standards? The only standard BMW set's is driving dynamics to be honest, and perhaps engine quality. That's pretty much it.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 4/28/2007 4:08:49 PM
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BMW is the standard... for CARS. When you're talking about sports cars, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and now Audi are all ahead.


00Vegas00Vegas - 4/27/2007 10:04:37 AM
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OK, now as a current owner of a 745Li and an SL55 I truely love automobiles and certainly have the means to attain mostly anything on the market. Unfortunately my dream garage has bit me in the proverbial ass. I thought having two luxury cars would be entirely fufilling. Although at times I feel like a million bucks, I find myself now sharing custody of two vehicles that alternate in dealerships... I recently swiched my SL55 with my buddies new GS350 for the week. (Stupid I know). What I ended up assesing after the duration is that the GS was not only the greatest luxury car for the money but offered a decent amount of visceral fun, combined with the most brutal infallobility... Out of further curiousity I went and drove the GS430 & GS450h. What I discoverd was that it makes entirely zero sense to choose anything other than the GS350. In reality the GS450h was a $20K bump in price. Performance was only marginal, trunk space diminshed almost in half, and for the savings in price, you could purchase 6,500 gallons of gas... We won't even discuss the futility of the GS430. Ultimately the GS350 is not only the greatest value but also the most well rounded performer of the bunch due to weight / performance / trunk issues...


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 4/27/2007 12:12:50 PM
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Bimmermike
I think you do not realize that once you own or have driven one of these vehicles so many drool about it just becomes another Vehicle.

The Gentleman stated he swapped cars with his friend for 1 week, you act as if he swapped cars permanently, Also more important was the statement that the vehicles pay constant visits to the Dealerships (Unplanned Visits I assume ;-) This was what i tried to tell several of you guys on this site, After 6 months of havng vehicles that constantly Flash Warnings at you from the Dashboard Message Centre you start seeking somethng you know will take you on a 2,000 mile round trip without fear of Malfunction.

Perfect Example, I have spent the last 3 months trying to Figure outwhat Vehicle to take on this year's BullRun.
* Gallardo Spyder = Will not break down but no luggage room and not very comfortable for such a long trip
* SL 63 = More comfortable than Gallardo but not much more Luggage Space Either (6 Day Event)
* CL 63/65 This is the best choice so far in terms of comfortable Cruising at warp speeds and space for all luggage we need but it is a New Vehicle and im sure something will break if I choose it.
* M5/M6 This is the last in the options list and if i decide against the CL then i guess one of these 2 will have to be it.

Everything else is stupidly expensive to rent for the event or just not practical, unless you wish to Fedex your Gear to each hotel ;-)

Any Ideas Guys ?


nvmenvme - 4/27/2007 12:34:11 PM
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00vegas: Well, to be honest i think that you either don't own the cars you claim to own or that you just don't know how to drive, because well, i dont expect you to believe me, but i get to drive the cars you cite on a regular basis, even the GS350 (my grandma's) and to be able to come to your conclusion you either have to be the same age of my grandma or someone who really has no ability/interest in making the difference between a car that YOU drive and a car the drives you (or drags you in the GS's case) it certainly is comfy, no doubt, but that has to be your own opinion and you cannot come up with the conclusion that the GS 350 is the better car because you happen to prefer it!!
take no offense in my opinion because there is none intended, but i can write raw sometimes...


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 4/27/2007 12:01:08 PM
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Hmm !!!!

I was under the impression that you are one of the Trolls.


david999david999 - 4/27/2007 10:08:05 AM
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The GS model has always been a good vehicle.


Agent63Agent63 - 4/27/2007 10:31:16 AM
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I agree the GS has always been the marque design for Lexus in my mind even though it's not a flagship. I have always loved the GS and I continue to love it. The GS is the only sedan in it's segment that I may choose over an E-Class, 5 series, or Infiniti M. The styling appeals to more than any Lexus on the market today.


printhanprinthan - 4/27/2007 10:53:21 AM
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2 sweet!


M53RM53R - 4/27/2007 11:34:05 AM
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With that much trunk space, its a bargain!


WillisWillis - 4/27/2007 3:13:23 PM
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Huu76, the question is, WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING...


00Vegas00Vegas - 4/27/2007 3:09:10 PM
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Well bimmermike I really don't take much offense to your challenge because when I open my garage in the morning I actually have the choice to decide which car to drive. Far from being a grandma I'm a 29 year old who does well for himself out here in vegas. As a young real estate broker with a team of agents I can afford these vehicles, however like the other gentleman said. Once you actually own your "dream cars" they become cars. It lends greater objectivity. Not to say that I won't jump back german in a couple of years, however the cars are tempormental and when you have 200K in vehicles you tend to pamper them more then most. However it's ironic that the more you spend, the more prestigie is acquired, the more time wasted on them. There is zero correlation between monetary value and quality. To me luxury should be defined as the absence of effort. That is luxory. Two of the most desired cars that spend alternating weeks in the shop get old real quick. My old 2002 Acura TL-S never let me down. It just didn't provide me with "ego" or "fun factor". But to be quite honest, it was a superior built vehicle than both of my current cars. I'll tell you, my sunroof never made noise in my $30K Acura. And if it did I bet that Acura wouldn't tell me that the officially sanctioned answer from the manufacturor is to "close the sun visor". That's a true story... I think P Diddy hit the nail on the head... "It's a Bently to you, but to me it's a blue car..."


WillisWillis - 4/27/2007 6:31:15 PM
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For a 29 year-old, you have extremely poor grammar. Nice try.


sewingmachinesewingmachine - 4/27/2007 5:48:37 PM
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^^^^ nice.


trd1trd1 - 4/27/2007 8:37:45 PM
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i love this car and i think it really does stand out.


MunichRobMunichRob - 4/28/2007 8:23:46 PM
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"huu76" are you kidding me? LS460L outhandling a 750il...In you're dreams. The LS has shown consistant slalom times of under 60mph, an S-Class will outhandle the LS nevermind a 7-series. A 750i outhandles the IS350!

If Edmunds actually did a comparo with these results then I have to say that hurts their reputation more than it does the 7-series, because we all know the 7 is a way more capable athlete.


MunichRobMunichRob - 4/29/2007 6:00:36 AM
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"huu76" like I said, the problem isn't with the 7-series it's with Edmunds.

I'm not disputing what you read & reported. The fact is it's impossible for the LS460 to jump from consistent slalom times (shown by respected car magazines) of the high 50's to the mid/high 60mph range.

If Edmunds says the LS out handles the 750i it would have had to post more than 67mph through the slalom, but it's bin shown numerous times (along with the S-Class) that it can barely past the 60mph mark.

I particpated in the BMW driving school not to long ago & they brought the 750i to the track to show off how capable the thing actually is. I took it for a few laps & Needless to say I was more than impressed...it almost tied my lap time with my 650i nevermind an LS (which I havn't driven yet).


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 4/29/2007 1:32:15 PM
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the market says it all:

160 sales/month for the GS450h.

a sales failure for a massive car company like toyota. they don't do niche cars.


MunichRobMunichRob - 4/29/2007 4:55:47 PM
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"huu76" how do you figure the M3 is slower than the 335i? It's rumored to be faster than the M5, we havn't even seen any test numbers for the M3.


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/1/2007 12:23:32 AM
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The best run reported for an M3 is 4.8. We all know the new M3 is going to be faster than the last generation, I'm guessing 4.4/4.3 sec. BMW factory times are the most conservative in the industry, they suggest 4.6sec for an M6 when it really does 4.1sec to 60mph.

People will still continue to buy the M5 over the M3 because it's larger & more practical.


silent_powersilent_power - 5/5/2007 8:54:55 AM
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GS400h is the fastest in GS series and yet it gets the best mpg.
It is not a sport car but it is a really fast Lexus.


silent_powersilent_power - 5/5/2007 8:58:55 AM
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Also LHD sound is amazing, just like an electric train. ICE revs constantly at same rpms, while the car accelerates...


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