Über-CLS may be next from Maybach

Über-CLS may be next from Maybach
The plan was nothing if not ambitious: Dust off a long-dead nameplate with zero recognition, take on Rolls-Royce for the title of Best--or at least Most Expensive--Car in the World, and sell about 1000 examples a year to the superrich.

The Maybach arrived for the 2004 model year and very quickly proved just how ambitious that plan was. Particularly the last part. The brand sold a grand total of 146 cars in the United States last year and 152 the year before--about one-third of Rolls-Royce's U.S. sales. Uh-oh.

"Although it took a while to sink in, everyone involved knows now that it's not the brand that's at fault," claims one Maybach source. "It's the current product in general and the design in particular. The Exelero show car did more for us than all the tweaks to the 57/62 series combined. Recently, we presented our management a couple of promising concepts, among them a four-seat luxury coupe. But at the moment, most of our work is undercover. You just can't fire a bunch of people at Chrysler and simultaneously spend millions on a new Maybach."

One possible short-term boost could come from a Maybach edition of the Mercedes-Benz GL-class SUV. Don't laugh. Cheap to build and expensive to buy, the Maybach GL would be the brand's first real moneymaker. The plan is to give it a Maybach grille, new bumpers, a revised rear end, more brightwork, and wider wheels. The cabin would be upgraded with top-grade leather and wood and rear lounge seats like those in the 57/62. Some 1500 vehicles would be sold, but only outside of Europe.

Ultimately, however, everyone agrees that what Maybach really needs is a new mid-size model priced in the $225,000-to-$275,000 bracket. "The best bet is a stylish and powerful four-door, four-seat coupe--kind of a bigger CLS for the very rich," says our friend in product planning.

That project is based on the S-class. The design is brand-new, and it's said to be much more convincing than Maybach's first effort. Unusual elements include unique exterior lighting that emits a soft glow accentuating certain body contours, a variable-tint glass roof, and a gauge cluster whose display changes based on driving conditions. For propulsion, engineers favor the 5.5-liter turbo V-12, which can make up to 600 hp and more than 700 lb-ft of torque.

But the big question is whether management will pour still more cash into Maybach--or will this nameplate be allowed to slip back into the past?


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dumpstydumpsty - 5/1/2007 11:32:28 AM
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--- One possible short-term boost could come from a Maybach edition of the Mercedes-Benz GL-class SUV. ---

A year or so ago, renderings for a Maybach SUV were circulated. DCX could use the cash infusion of a respected ultra-luxury SUV product. A GL-based solution is the way to go. For the short term.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/1/2007 11:59:45 AM
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So it's coupe now huh? Well if it's a replacment for the Maybach then expect a pricetag somewhere in the 250 - 300 thousand dollar range.
Follow that up with one of the most unreliable nameplates on the planet, coupled with the cheap, fisher price build quality and miserable service.

You'll be on a first name basis with your local tow truck company as you will be relying on him to get around.



Agent63Agent63 - 5/1/2007 6:16:54 PM
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I've been in a Maybach and it's not cheap fisher price build quality so I don't know what you have heard. It's just as good as the Rolls and Bentley if not better in terms of leg room. It lives up to the ultra luxury status.

You need to quit making judgements based on what you hear and should one day see one for yourself. Even if it was so called cheap it would still be better than any Lexus, Mercedes, Audi, or BMW. It's ultra exclusive even more than Rolls and for sure Bentley. Have you seen their dealerships throughout Europe? first class treatment while you option out your car.


Agent63Agent63 - 5/1/2007 9:22:06 PM
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What are you stupid? Lexus can not lure customers away from Maybach, RR, or Bentley. You think the ultra wealthy who have owned cars like these will consider down grading to a Lexus? give me a break. Only in your world you believe it can compete. Lexus themselves never even made such a moronic claim like yours.

A simple comparison Jeremy Clarkson did got you to believe an LS is a ultra luxury sedan. It can't lure away customers from the Big III in the rest of the world.

Finally, you should really go sit in a Maybach, Rolls, or Bentley before you say Lexus can out-do its so called 'competition'. Just keep in mind it hasn't surpassed it's REAL competitors. All this is is a hybrid but luxury wise it's the same as the regular LS.

What justifies paying the difference between a hybrid and the LS 460L coule determine a luxury sedan to an ultra luxury sedan. Whatever the level of luxury is in the 460 is in the 600H. You play tricks with your mind. Don't forget who dominates the world not just the US.



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/2/2007 2:24:36 PM
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Agent63, you're wasting your time. Don't try to change these freaks.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/1/2007 3:18:46 PM
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The only unique feature offered by Maybach is the pair of lounge rear seats in the long wheelbase version. I've lost track but I could never understand why a car in that price range would only have 3 valves per cylinder instead of 4. At least Maybach provides 2 fancy rear lounge seats in the model 62 while Lexus' Maybach wannabe, the new LWB version of the LS460, offers this type of seat on one side only. I doubt if Maybach will ever have the overwhelming presence and character of the RR Phantom. Mercedes should abandon the Maybach brand and resurrect the Pullman concept based on the more modern current S-Class.


Agent63Agent63 - 5/1/2007 6:20:13 PM
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I agree with you on everything except the overwhelming presense of a RR Phantom. The whole purpose of having a Maybach is exclusivity. Not everyone knows what a Maybach is and not all will ever see one in their lifetime. However when/if they do see one they won't mistaken it for anything else. The car is beautiful, prestigious, and one of the best top luxury cars in the world.

As for the Lexus being a Maybach wannabe, I'm not surprised. They have borrowed ideas from Mercedes for years.


dumpstydumpsty - 5/2/2007 11:40:41 AM
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I agree with Agent63. I recently rode on I-271 (Cleveland) along side a Maybach 57. It was beautiful and seem to glide down the highway. Of course, it was unmistakibly a luxury car and I can't imagine the amount of looks and conversion it got on it's way to Gates Mills.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/2/2007 2:25:39 PM
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EnnNorak, I really can't get over your odd complaints. 3 valves per cylinder? Do you think any Maybach owner really knows (or cares) about that?


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