Audi set to beat Lexus with all-LED headlights

Audi has always said that its R8 sports car would get the Le Mans concept’s unique lighting arrangement, and the option will finally be available from the end of this year. The headlight will use LEDs for low and high beams as well as daytime running lights and indicators. The advantage of using LEDs is the ultra-high 6,000Kelvin temperature rating, which is roughly the same color as ordinary daylight. By comparison, xenon lights only manage a 4,100K rating and the yellowish hue of halogen lamps only rates at 3,200K.
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EL34EL34 - 5/9/2007 12:21:59 PM
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3 cheers for Audi.

Audi #1 like always!


raikkonenraikkonen - 5/9/2007 12:29:36 PM
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Yup! #1 in reliability. #1 in a lightweight, agile cars. #1 in US sales.


foofighterfoofighter - 5/9/2007 1:41:17 PM
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#1 like always???? it's more like make it or break it time for the 4 rings


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 5/9/2007 5:43:52 PM
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Where is the part where the article says"Audi set to beat Lexus with LED lights"?


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/9/2007 11:27:12 PM
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hustoncutie2000-
I've argued with you before because honestly, I don't think you know cars as well as you think you do. BMW was the first car company to introduce xenon headlights on 1991 7-Series. Like Lincoln could invent something of importance.


henbmwhenbmw - 5/11/2007 5:03:54 PM
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i just had a high intensity discharge into your moms face


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/12/2007 1:06:17 AM
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You sick, sick, sicko. This is a car website, not a porno.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/9/2007 12:32:36 PM
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I'm delighted with the night-driving performance of the xenon headlights in my current Audi but can hardly wait to see how well the new LED lights perform. All I can say for now is that Xenon performance is light years ahead of halogen (no pun intended) and I'm hoping that LEDs will leapfrog xenon the same way. I expect lighting experts like the Philips Lighting Museum to create a display that compares the performance of halogen, xenon, and LEDs and chronicles the continuous improvement in automotive lighting technology.


answeranswer - 5/9/2007 1:09:41 PM
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R8 rocks!

LEDs are awesome. Really cool how they barely generate any heat too.


EL34EL34 - 5/9/2007 1:57:58 PM
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Thank you Audi!

You are the wind beneath my wings.


answeranswer - 5/10/2007 11:09:46 AM
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So posting a positive thing about the R8 and LED lighting is bad? Good to know.


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 5/9/2007 2:14:34 PM
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Sorry, Audi, you can only choose the second place now.






S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/9/2007 2:26:05 PM
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The A8L W12 already incorporates LED lamps- not full lamps like the LS or R8, but partial...

How did I know the Lexus fans would jump at this? Are some of them that desperate? Do LED headlights matter that much?


foofighterfoofighter - 5/9/2007 2:58:15 PM
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it's not a big deal but when you're VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK you have to toot your horn some how, even if it's a little late to the game. I've owned a couple Audi's and i know how slow they are to adopt technology and trickle it down to their bread and butter cars (A3 and A4)


EL34EL34 - 5/9/2007 4:20:32 PM
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foofighter, the year is 2007 and not 1907.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/9/2007 5:01:18 PM
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Hey, I figured that would happen too. Bulldogz, I was not posting that information in a boastful manner, as many Lexus fans do of the LSh. I was simply stating that this was not the first Audi to incorporate the LED headlamp design. I know you can't accept my true ideas- that I like all brands. It seems as if you revolve around the idea that everyone on the site likes one given brand; I like Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus, Porsche, Jaguar, Land Rover, Infiniti... pretty much everything but Acura. Not all are as close-minded as you.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/9/2007 11:23:21 PM
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S4, to answer your question, LED lights don't matter that much. What significant about them right now is that they're new, so Audi is jumping at the chance to get some credit for them. Even though Lexus was first, second doesn't look so bad. Just look at Xenon headlights: they aren't important now because almost every car has them now.


izfuneyizfuney - 5/9/2007 3:21:49 PM
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yawn !!! great innovation . Let me know when they adopt the new "ze triple noise horn" so we can all scream out our undying love for the great auto manufacturer from the VW family.



AlexTxAlexTx - 5/9/2007 3:26:03 PM
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The R8 will be the first car to have complete LED headlights..that means..Low beam, high beem and even blinkers.
The Lexus will only have low beam.


EL34EL34 - 5/9/2007 4:19:09 PM
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There ya go ToyLex fanboys.

We can all count on Audi when the night time comes.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/9/2007 5:02:25 PM
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I love how when Lexus fans post facts about the LS's LEDs, they're boosted to +1429252, and when you state facts about the R8's LEds, you're de-boosted. LOL.


EL34EL34 - 5/9/2007 5:06:15 PM
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I've noticed that.

ToyLex fanboys are like a gang.


GoGoSucksGoGoSucks - 5/9/2007 10:53:54 PM
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Gogo, I guess that you know this from experience? Honestly, at least Toyota and Lexus fans do not "try" to belittle German car fans by playing the overused gay-card joke. It's so lame and passe. Join the rest of the civilize world please.


henbmwhenbmw - 5/11/2007 4:57:50 PM
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Join the civilized world? Look at your name


LexusLexus - 5/9/2007 7:09:11 PM
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Another Lexus wannabe, I guess everyone want to be as cool the Lexus LS600hl.


GoGoSucksGoGoSucks - 5/9/2007 10:56:22 PM
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Cooler than other marques that try to ride the wave of pretentiousness.


BillBill - 5/10/2007 5:55:20 AM
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Gogosucks, the other brands in this class are not riding a "wave of pretentiousness", they have clearly established brand images unlike Lexus.

I think the LS600h is a mistake, especially in terms or pricing.


nvmenvme - 5/9/2007 10:11:11 PM
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12000K??? are you familiar with a physics notion referred to as melting point? you are delirious, particularly about different temperature offerings on Xenon, then some xenon not being real HID!?!
less power consumption, longer lifespan, higher intensity lighting, no or very little blazing, are among the many attributes of LEDs over Xenon, or convetional lights for that matter.


golfer38golfer38 - 5/12/2007 11:05:08 AM
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Commonsense, thanks for the education, it was very illuminating (sorry!). And it does make sense, I've never heard a cute girl describe herself as cute in her screen name either.


Will_Will_ - 5/9/2007 8:49:33 PM
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Audi has done some really cool and innovative work utilizing LED lights throughout their products, but credit must be given where credit is due: the LS600 is the FIRST car with full LED headlights.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/9/2007 10:22:54 PM
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True. I don't see the point of this article at all.

I really like BMW's LED taillamps- they're very artistic and eye-catching, especially at night.


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/9/2007 9:58:20 PM
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"houstoncutie2000" who are you kidding, 1991 BMW 7-series was the first production car with xenon headlights...not Lincon or Infiniti.

Also if you ask me, the Aston Martin DB9 was the first car to use LED's in the headlamps.

Does it even really matter though? I mean it's not like any of these car companies are responsible for the creation of LED's or Xenon's.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/9/2007 10:23:20 PM
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Thank you! It DOESN'T matter!


answeranswer - 5/10/2007 11:11:14 AM
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I thought the 993 Porsche turbo was the first with xenon headlights.


henbmwhenbmw - 5/11/2007 5:02:08 PM
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ACTUALLY, it was the 1987 mercury cougar that introduced bi-LED XENON HID headlights.


answeranswer - 5/9/2007 10:28:14 PM
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If you put LED Christmas lights on your Christmas tree Santa gives you more presents.


ronnsscoobyronnsscooby - 5/9/2007 10:30:59 PM
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no matter what you say , audi cannot touch bimmer. I have seen too many audis stucck off the road, because of the dumb ass drivers, its ridiculous. To say the same audi dosent even come close to bimmer.


rg12345rg12345 - 5/10/2007 11:45:49 AM
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I saw so many BMW stuck on the road due to a little snow ... with probably some really good drivers inside. Why use a car that has potential only when sunny and dry outside? BMW=Excellent cars for 6 months out of 12. And when I say a little snow I don't mean extreme winter conditions, I just mean some snow on the street. Where everyone else has no problem but the rear traction cars have no traction. hahaha


WickedRabbitWickedRabbit - 5/9/2007 11:30:28 PM
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Let's all thank 'houstoncutie2000' for that completely unnecessary and unrelated automotive information. And she (I'm assuming you're a she based off your name) even did it in all caps, as if to make a statement of some sort. The topic is about LED lights, not Xenons.


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/10/2007 1:10:42 AM
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Her statement is even worse considering it's completly incorrect.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/12/2007 1:10:04 AM
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Yeah, I also have a question: If what you say is in fact true, doesn't that mean that the BMW 7-Series had them first? Just like I said. Maybe if you're correct, Lincoln was the first in the U.S., but I wasn't talking about the U.S. only and neither were you.

You said, and I quote, "SORRY I MISS AN I: LINCOLN MARK VIII WORLDS FIRST CAR TO USE HID XENON HEADLIGHTS IN 1996".

Notice: WORLDS FIRST. How is that? You just barely said that BMW was the first in the world and that Lincoln was first in the U.S.? What are you smoking? Like I said before, you don't know cars as well as you think you do. And don't say that I'm a disgrace to the Lexus name, I believe I just proved you wrong.


gsh23gsh23 - 5/10/2007 4:53:46 PM
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haha this is too funny, raise your hand if you actually know how HID headlamps work? not many i see. ok, now raise your hand if you know how LEDs work? wow all dumbasses....im moving on to the next article....


EL34EL34 - 5/10/2007 8:49:00 PM
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Audi wins and Lexus loses.

And that's how it is..

carry on,

el34


Matthew1Matthew1 - 5/11/2007 5:04:18 AM
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Hey ronsscooby,

How does it feel to know the new Impreza was not only designed by the ugly pencil, but looks like it was meant to be launched 10 years ago?


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/11/2007 10:30:41 AM
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Power consumption is an important issue, especially if one is already running A/C and an overpowered audio system. Add that to heated seats and an electric fan for engine cooling while stuck in traffic and you better have a high-capacity alternator to keep your battery fully charged. If your Xenons are for high beams only, sitting in traffic will all electrical systems ON may not be an issue but bi-Xenon is the norm for better cars these days. Current-generation lighting using xenon is more than satisfactory but I'll gladly take LEDs if they use less power and can be produced in economic quantities.


truckmentruckmen - 5/11/2007 6:08:02 PM
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LED lighting sounds great! Has anyone else heard that it is danderous to look directly at an LED? This concerns me a little when they will be on our streets! I love HID lighting and would embrace LED lights if they actually throw more light at a higher temperature! Has anyone ever used a LED flashlight? They don't throw as much light as an incondesant light, although LEDs have a much higher temperature they just don't cut it yet when it comes to distance.I would like to see LED compared with HID and halogen in real world conditions! Then we can all jump for joy when the results are in!!!!


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 5/11/2007 9:07:55 PM
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an entire thread about headlights? seriously? WHO CARES.


Matthew1Matthew1 - 5/12/2007 2:46:34 AM
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Some enthusiast you are. Car fans are allowed to be interested in other automotive aspects other than just 0-60 etc...


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 5/12/2007 12:43:44 PM
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give me a break matthew.
this is nothing more than a bitch-fest over who is the first to come out with a headlight.


1000rrRider1000rrRider - 5/12/2007 10:51:09 AM
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With out a doubt Lexus is a reliable car maybe even more reliable then Audi, Mercedes or BMW however it has never contributed much to innovation or technology. They don't offer a true DSG transmission they don't use magnesium in their engines they don't use fiber optics for interior illumination and don’t offer anything like the iDrive but instead put about a thousand individual buttons on the dash ....I'll give them the self parking feature but that only adds weight and increases the already poor breaking and handling performance, their engine/suspension/brake components are not much different from your day to day Camry..not to mention the painting process and corrosion protection is weak.


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