USA Today says you will pay a lot for the Lexus LS600h but it delivers

USA Today says you will pay a lot for the Lexus LS600h but it delivers
The power of a V-12, Lexus says, and the fuel economy you'd get from a big-displacement V-6 in an all-wheel-drive car. Translated, about 20 miles per gallon on the windows sticker, about 18 on the byways around here, including a spirited frolic on the snaking Angeles Crest Highway. On which, it should be noted, the car handled more crisply than you'd expect, given the non-sporting reputation of Lexus' big cars.

At that level of price and performance, who cares about mileage, you might ask. Why, says Lexus, those super-affluent buyers it is trying to lure. They want to feel good, or less bad, about their luxury car indulgence. Hardly a 50-mpg Prius, but the 600h does get better mileage than its rivals, and poops 70% fewer objectionables out the tailpipes, Lexus explains. Less effluent from the affluent.
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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/11/2007 12:32:13 PM
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See, Lexus is the future of all humanity.

Sometime in the future, aliens will come to earth, only to bask in the glory that is Lexus.


Agent63Agent63 - 5/12/2007 6:43:40 AM
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I own an LS460 but it is not the future of all humanity my little friend. I also own an S550 and it's great. Lexus knows what kind of competition they have to face. It's not easy in this segment. Their all such great cars.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/12/2007 8:49:09 AM
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"....my little friend..." LOL!


SoCalGuySoCalGuy - 5/13/2007 3:22:25 PM
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Hi all, long time reader, first time commenter. ive been coming on this website for over a year now, and all i see is toyolex ppl Bashing ppl who preffer german cars. and i also noticed the "toyolex" crowd cant spell for jack SH*T. typos on top of typos.

Ohh and thats all lexus have going on for themselves, technology. Bland interior and exterior designs, dry and boring ride/handling. and in the end, u still end up with a toyota.
seriously, when u tell someone u drive a BMW, Audi, MB, or Porsche, the other person will know & think u drive a BMW, Audi, MB, or Porsche.
But when you drive a Lexus, most ppl i know will go "ohh Thats a Toyota, great reliability!" in their heads.
Plus the presitge and heritage that comes with most german cars cant be matched by any of the Japanese Lux Sedans. So PLEASE, if all you toyolex ppl have inferiority complex, go to your shrink. dont take it out on the inventors of the Luxury Sedans. Its not all Technology.

PS Lexusnumberone4ever, no offense but u have no creativity, hence the nick, and buying a 70K+ car isnt the way to save the environment or humanity, if u really wanna do that, go buy a prius, corolla, or civic


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/15/2007 5:59:06 AM
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"...i also noticed the "toyolex" crowd cant spell for jack SH*T.."

I see sire, but could you start typing "You" instead of "u"?


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 5/13/2007 8:19:54 PM
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There is no V12 in the works.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 11:07:16 PM
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houstoncutie, mitchatlexusofmarin WORKS AT LEXUS OF MARIN. I would think that he knows more than you about Lexus!


DallasMR2DallasMR2 - 5/14/2007 8:52:45 PM
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it amazes me how much of an idiot you are. i don't know where to start. ..but here's a hint for you...a CVT is a TRANSMISSION, not an engine. you MORON!

now go to bed, Junior high starts early in the morning.

(you know, now that i think about it, maybe if we all typed in caps he'd understand more...naah.)


EL34EL34 - 5/11/2007 1:06:09 PM
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It sure is nice to see more pictures of my home, but who parked that Lexus in my driveway???


EL34EL34 - 5/11/2007 1:57:59 PM
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I've been in homes in Newport Beach and Laguna Beach that look very similar.

But, the Lexus doesn't fit the home.


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 5/13/2007 8:21:33 PM
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Why do seem to almost be driven to try to impress people with yourself?


markusckmarkusck - 5/11/2007 1:20:19 PM
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More non auto related photos of chandliers, talbes, sofas available at homeandgarden.com. Why is USA Today showing all those misc photos? Seems rather irrelavant?


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 11:08:04 PM
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001 took those photos at an LS600hL event, and randomly posted them on this article.


BigShow50BigShow50 - 5/11/2007 1:30:37 PM
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Sorry EL34, those are my Lexus' on your driveway ...a home you use to own. Now your wife and my kids now live there. I was passing by that day droping off my love offerings...LMAO!!!


EL34EL34 - 5/11/2007 1:59:21 PM
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That's OK, I have the S600 parked in my new driveway ;)


david999david999 - 5/11/2007 2:02:20 PM
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Another great review of a wonderful automobile.


Will_Will_ - 5/11/2007 2:07:19 PM
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The second paragraph sums up the idea behind the LS hybrid. It's amazing that MOST auto reviewers can recognize what Lexus is doing, but MOST readers on this site cannot...


RupertRupert - 5/11/2007 7:44:59 PM
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Lexus sold about 800 cars last month in the UK. Audi sold about 7500.


GX470guyGX470guy - 5/13/2007 1:41:06 PM
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Percentages don't matter you idiot. they're not going to grow 20%/month forever. I've been making fun of the Lexus fans who are like you, but youre taking this too far... i really do have a GX470 and its nice, but its not the best SUV in the world.


EL34EL34 - 5/11/2007 3:02:41 PM
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I would like to see what would fit in the itty bitty Lexus trunk?

At least I know I could fit many signs in the trunk of an R-Class.


EL34EL34 - 5/11/2007 3:19:28 PM
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But, you would buy from me even if I was driving a '72 Ford station wagon with wood trim.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/12/2007 8:53:35 AM
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"....TOP SECRET U.S. AIRCRAFT TR-3B THAT GOES HYPERSONIC SPEED OF MACH 9 AT 6,849 MPH..."

Now I've heard everything. Tell your psychiatrist you need more sedatives.

Mach 9 does NOT equal 6849 mph.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 11:03:35 AM
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You still have a decade to go before you actually mature with your English.

Mach 9 equals 6966 mph.



LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 11:35:24 AM
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Up in the stratosphere where the temp's like 0 C or 32F, the speed of sound is 774 mph = Mach 1.




LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 11:37:02 AM
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btw, cutie: you're not from the US are you? Do you live in Japan.


answeranswer - 5/11/2007 3:54:31 PM
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I still like the car a lot, but I wish they would've done the blue logo trim differently. Looks like the spray can thing in Micosoft Paint made it.


WeAreMadWeAreMad - 5/11/2007 5:43:12 PM
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the other day i found myself behind an ls460, it still had no license plate. i did like the end and admired the exhaust. when the car went over a small dip on the street, it started to take several jumps up and down. and this was a fine paved street and i could hardly feel the dip when i went over it in my car. but the lexus kept wobling up and down a bit. so i was like, wtf? what would happend to this ls600h when it goes over that same small dip on a well paved street. will it slams in back end, scrape the underside (batteries???) cause a major rebound and lift the rear end into the air while the driver gawks and rams right into it.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/11/2007 11:35:14 PM
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Sick of this...

Does ANBYODY really expect this car to get a bad review? Did ANYBODY on the site say they "hated" this car? It's a damn top-of-the-line luxury sedan! So what if some people (myself included) prefer a Mercedes S600? Nobody is going to convince anyone of anything- we're all too stubborn! Get that through your thick skulls!


gsh23gsh23 - 5/12/2007 12:30:23 AM
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my eyes! the caps lock hurts my eyes!


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/12/2007 5:47:40 AM
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"houstoncutie2000" I was watching that show "intervention" on A&E today, & I swear your delusional rants remind me of the feature documented addict...I believe Christy was her name. Or maybe it’s Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" you remind me of? No, no...it's for sure the meth addict.

So tell me, cause I'm dying to know...is GM going to incorporate this top secret TR-3B aircraft technology in their cars to compete with Toyota/Lexus?


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 12:30:52 AM
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This houstoncutie is crazy. She claims that that secret aircraft can fly from any A to B point on earth in just an hour.

Anyone who has a double-digit age will know the absurdity of that comment.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 11:06:51 AM
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None of that. I actually agree with all of what you said.

But young lady, flying from anywhere in the world in less than an hour comment is plin stupid.




LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 11:31:47 AM
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Besides, the shuttle goes Mach 25 ONLY during re-entry.

It's pretty much impossible to build a turbine-powered aircraft that goes at Mach 9.

The fastest flying machine (in atmosphere) is NASA's scramjet that goes at Mach 8.7


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 1:27:54 PM
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Still, 3 hours is a lot different than 1 hour!

"WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE AT MACH 8.7 SO WHY NOT MACH 9?"

Because, that one's a scramjet NOT a turbine-powered aircraft.

"IT'S ONLY 24,902 MILES AROUND EARTH, SO TRAVELING AT MACH 8.7 HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO GO ALL THE AROUNG ON ONE TRIP AT MACH 8.7?"

Four hours approx. still NOT one hour.


btw,Do you live in US or Japan?


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:34:31 PM
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^^Once again, do you live in Japan or the US ?


RupertRupert - 5/13/2007 4:20:16 PM
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Maybe the government will find out you've been leaking this obviously classified and sensitive information and take away your keyboard so you can't type in caps lock anymore.


BillBill - 5/13/2007 7:25:18 AM
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I tend not to take reviews from major newspapers about cars seriously.

I'd rather listen to a variety of different car magazines about one product.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:37:03 PM
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Clearly, a correct thing to do. I usually follow its stories on different forums and enthusiast communities.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 12:32:05 PM
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houstoncutie2000- SHUT UP!!!!!! TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK!!!!!!!!


GX470guyGX470guy - 5/13/2007 1:45:34 PM
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houstoncutie, EVERYONE HATES YOU. go away and stop tormenting this stupid blog!!!


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 5/13/2007 8:27:55 PM
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That's really uncool of you to say bro. I can't believe you would be so cruel.


cdokecdoke - 5/13/2007 1:58:28 PM
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Simply because I am bored:

V_snd=V_snd,sl*SQRT(T/T_sl)
M=(V_true)/(V_snd)

?

M=(V_true)/( V_snd,sl*SQRT(T/T_sl))

?

T=(T_sl*V_true)/(M^2*V_snd,sl^2)
T=((59+460) *6849^2)/(9^2*761.2^2)-460

T=58.7273 °F

So Mach 9 is equivalent to 6849 mph at 58.7 °F. So there is a point at which such an assertion is possible: but it is basically at sea level. Calculations must use absolute temperature scales [i.e. Rankine], T_sl was assumed to 59°F with a corresponding V_snd,sl at 761.2 mph.

At 40,000 ft in altitude where the air temperature is around -70°F, the Mach number corresponding to 6849 mph is Mach 10.37

I won’t say anything about the validity of the assertion of the number 6849.



cdokecdoke - 5/13/2007 1:59:15 PM
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"?" are supposed to be therefore symbols.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:30:45 PM
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cdoke: Up in the stratosphere, where aircraft usually fly, the speed of sound is actually taken as 774mph.

"At 40,000 ft in altitude where the air temperature is around -70°F, the Mach number corresponding to 6849 mph is Mach 10.37"

Correct. I see that you finally have provided sufficient evidence to close this case.

Thanks.



cdokecdoke - 5/13/2007 3:16:26 PM
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774mph?

Are you sure you have not miss-typed that?

I am going to have to ask you to explain why that is. The reason I ask is that yes, the troposphere decreases in temperature as a function of altitude, and yes, the stratosphere increases in temperature as a function of altitude, but according to the U.S. Standard atmospheric model, the stratosphere, even at the stratopause, does not exceed in temperature, the mean sea level temperature. Since sound velocity and temperature are directly proportional, this implies that the speed of sound should not exceed 761.2 at any point where the temperature is less than the standard sea level temperature.

Just asking for clarification.



RupertRupert - 5/13/2007 4:24:05 PM
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Even Concorde expanded and contracted so much due to heat. I remember a story about the Pilot putting his hat in between a bulkhead, his hat got flattened, and he had to wait till the next flight to get it back!

And this triangle aircraft thing...madness.


RupertRupert - 5/13/2007 6:07:05 PM
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Exactly! The space shuttle has to have its entire underside replaced every trip! And quite a few just fall off when it is being moved on the ground!
And the SR-71 (the Blackbird right) had a slight problem with its engines...there was a chance that it would "cough" and go into reverse randomly (the endless spin everyone dies). No way of telling when. Would you really like to travel in one?


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/14/2007 4:12:34 AM
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Houston cutie: I'm sure that your'e NOT from the US.

Intelligence is a concept beyond your comprehension.


RupertRupert - 5/14/2007 4:42:43 AM
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The same ways to Osama boys did? What. by going to Flying School?
Lexusnumberoneforever, there are plenty of stupid people in america.



MunichRobMunichRob - 5/13/2007 9:24:58 PM
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Well I for one can't fully comprehend what "cdoke" was explaining, but w.e it was it sure did shut-up "houstoncutie". You'd think she'd be able to discount your argument with all her top-secret knowledge.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 11:11:51 PM
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Is this person serious? Is it all a big joke? Am I going crazy?


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/13/2007 11:56:20 PM
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"houstoncutie" I see the government is doing a very poor job at finding proper education in your part of Houston.

Agent 001 I know she hasn't written anything offensive, but come on do we really need her mindless babbling on this site? She not even talking about cars, hell she’s not even talking reality here...Give her the boot.


Matthew1Matthew1 - 5/14/2007 12:26:05 AM
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I think its a guy.


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/14/2007 4:09:11 AM
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Eunuch perhaps...?


MunichRobMunichRob - 5/14/2007 2:09:09 AM
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W.e just get em outta here!


RupertRupert - 5/14/2007 3:34:12 PM
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sorry when you say science and technology do you mean the ramblings of a man wearing a tinfoil hat?


RupertRupert - 5/14/2007 6:24:18 PM
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Firstly, understand this word.
RUMOUR.
Secondly, read this, taken from that article.
"Perhaps the GS-F will be powered by the V10"
One word there. Perhaps. It means it is a possibility. An idea. An opinion expressed by Autospies.
There will be a V10 (LF-A), but that is no guarantee of a V12 650h.


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