Do Modern Cars Become Obsolete Faster?

Do Modern Cars Become Obsolete Faster?
The seagulls in Marina del Rey conducted bombing practice for more than two months recently on Ted Field Sr.'s Lincoln Mark VIII.

Nowadays, the once regal silver coupe is a pitiful sight and not terribly useful for getting around town either.

It has been parked since winter because Field has been unable to find something called a variable load control module, better known as a black box.

Ford stopped making the part for the 1996 vehicle, saying the part is obsolete. That in turn has made the car, which has only 66,000 miles, obsolete.

The story of the Mark VIII involves many of the perils of an auto industry that is dramatically changing, as the number of models offered to consumers mushrooms and as cars become packed with modern electronics.

It is often said that cars have become computers on wheels. That sounds cool until you think about how difficult it is to keep a home computer running for a decade, replacement parts and software so difficult to obtain as the years pass. And the explosion of vehicle models has forced dealerships to stock more parts than ever before.


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EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/17/2007 2:02:12 PM
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"Obsolete" is a state of mind except for major technical advances like fuel injection, ABS, tubeless tires, and the extensive use of galvanized steel. These are examples of advances that have a significant benefit for the consumer. For example, fuel injection improves fuel efficiency and provides reliable engine starting. Galvanized steel minimise rust on steel bodies. One should not consider a car obsolete just because there is a new fad in styling.


Agent009Agent009 - 5/17/2007 2:42:42 PM
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but if a core component is no longer made then you could have an issue like the article. The car is sound but one part is bad and the vehicle is junked.




S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/17/2007 3:01:14 PM
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But to me, if you're running a ten-year-old car that needs new parts every year, what's the point? You're going to want a new car eventually, and dragging an oldie out is just wasting money.


daytonavioletdaytonaviolet - 5/17/2007 4:01:36 PM
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Sad Story!

This car has only 66k miles, and the car is useless, because of 1 electronic part. How disappointing for the owner, a Lincoln fan. Not only does he lose the use of thecar, if the car worked fine he could probably sell it for 6000-8000. I wouldn't buy another Ford product either.




w209w114w209w114 - 5/17/2007 5:33:37 PM
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Of course cars become obsolete faster. Technology, demands, and preferences are changing constantly which leads to the need for constant improvement of models. If you notice the average time people have a car nowadays is about 3 to 4 years. Back in 1950 it was the norm for people to buy cars and keep them in the family for 20 years.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 5/17/2007 5:35:45 PM
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Cars are like every other electronic toy on the market. Tomorrow there will be a newer and better model. Heck, it's consumerism at it's finest. Why not make it, the manufacturers know you're gonna buy it...eventually.


XYZZXYZZ - 5/18/2007 6:56:40 AM
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you guys are confusing obsolescence with reliability.

while there is some overlap (components becoming obsolete due to mfgr'g economics), "obsolete cars" need not be unreliable.

THAT is the problem. the lincoln had an UNRELIABLE piece of crap electronic black box.




XYZZXYZZ - 5/18/2007 7:29:48 AM
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then again, in not supporting critical parts, maybe ford is going back to PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE to spur new car sales.

too bad it's driving the sales toward TOYOTA! lol!



XYZZXYZZ - 5/18/2007 7:36:10 AM
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S4:

"But to me, if you're running a ten-year-old car that needs new parts every year, what's the point? You're going to want a new car eventually, and dragging an oldie out is just wasting money."



THAT's why toyota and lexus keep gaining market share.

THEIR 10-year old cars only have as many problems as 4-yr old fords. or 3-yr old gm/dcx/vw cars. INCLUDING mb. (1998 LS400 has fewer problems than 2006 mb ML500.)






S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/20/2007 9:39:17 PM
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Why would they gain market share with ten-year-old cars, and not new ones?

There's a lot more to Toyota's success than that. It's due in part to the smoke-and-mirrors marketing, but also due to the relative quality of the product.


XYZZXYZZ - 5/24/2007 9:39:13 AM
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XYZZXYZZ - 5/24/2007 9:43:07 AM
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they are constantly gaining market share in NEW car sales, due to the sheer growing mass of satisfied owners of their OLD cars.

EVERYONE does smoke and mirrors marketing.

only toyota and lexus have the TRACK RECORDS of quality and reliability over the long term. i.e., toy/lex long term: 10 - 15 yrs rather than just 3 - 6.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/24/2007 5:10:39 PM
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AlexApex has correctly observed that there may be some confusion between obsolescence and reliability. I am on my third walk-away lease for reasons of reliability alone. It suits me to always have a car that is still under warranty so I don't have to worry about reliability. What I'm saying is that, if you can deal with the reliability issue, don't change your vehicle just because there is a new styling fad.


XYZZXYZZ - 5/25/2007 5:54:27 AM
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XYZZXYZZ - 5/25/2007 6:09:19 AM
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you bring up an interesting point, EnnNorak.

back in the 1950s and '60s, there was a thing called PLANNED obsolescence. which was mostly STYLING obsolescence.

the mechanicals did NOT change much, year to year. but the style of detroit iron changed EVERY YEAR. minor changes ANNUALLY. major changes every 2 - 3 years.

it was like a fashion thing. people were "encouraged" to get the latest and flashiest, regardless of mechanical condition of their cars. (later, to save on costs, the styling cycles were extended. detroit noticed foreign brands did NOT have change just for change's sake, EVERY year.)

the mechanicals incidentally, were NOT THAT GREAT either. they were built to NOT be especially reliable, once the warranties expired.

this ALSO encouraged trading in EARLY and OFTEN! (and this also changed, under the influence of japanese reliability. change in this case was NOT to save on costs, but to avoid becoming uncompetitive.)



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