Family Car reviews the Lexus LS600hL

Family Car reviews the Lexus LS600hL
I tapped the ride selector on the console from Comfort to Sport and immediately felt the suspension stiffen up. As I negotiated the twists and turns of the road, I began to appreciate the Sport Mode's calibration even more. The car seemed to go exactly where I pointed it and the steering even provided a good feel of the road, unlike some other Lexus models I was familiar with.

While I did not have the opportunity to drive this car back to back with a real sport sedan, I was nonetheless impressed with the flat cornering and substantial tire grip. As I gained confidence with the feel of the car, I noticed that my passenger was gripping the grab handle with greater urgency as he stared down at the shear drops just off the shoulder of the roadway. The LS600h L is a large sedan to be sure, tipping the scales at over 5,000 pounds, but it felt a lot smaller. The steering was quick and accurate with little lost motion and the brakes were powerful and responsive.

Was it as good as, say, a BMW 7 series? Not quite, but it wasn't far behind either. Flip the switch back to comfort mode and it sure beats the beemer in ride quality and tops just about everything I have ever experienced for quiet. Not a trace of wind noise at any speed. Engine noise was muted at all but heavy throttle where it produced a mellow, deep-throated purr. Road noise always depends on the the type of pavement and when I was driving on blacktop, there simply wasn't any.

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I was actually surprised by the brakes. One of the problems with hybrid cars has been that the brakes always felt strange. This is because light braking was handled by the electric motor switching over to a generator to put a drag on forward motion. This is called Regenerative Braking. Stepping harder on the brakes activated the real brakes. The effect was usually noticeable and non-linear. On top of that, the brake system in the LS600h L is electronically controlled using sensors and actuators instead of normal hydraulic pressure. Mercedes used this type of system on some of their cars and here too, the brake pedal felt a bit artificial. None of that here. These brakes felt smooth, progressive and predictable throughout my drive.

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What I like most about testing vehicles in this rarified 6 figure price range is that a good amount of the technology we are introduced to for the first time in these chariots will almost certainly find their way into tomorrow's bread and butter cars. You know, the ones that some of us working stiffs can afford. My guess is that we will see more LED headlamps in the coming years as well as advances in making cars quieter, but the biggest contribution that Lexus made to the future of the industry, it made with the first generation Lexus LS400 that was introduced in 1989. It demonstrated to the world that a luxury car can be designed and manufactured of superb quality and bullet-proof reliability for a price many thousands less than comparable cars. The gauntlet had been thrown down and Lexus never looked back.
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lexusis350lexusis350 - 6/9/2007 2:30:43 PM
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Now that is what I call a good review. I'm glad to see how close Lexus has come to being everything the German cars are and more (good riding, quiet, luxurious, reliable, and cheap).


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/9/2007 10:56:06 PM
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Cheap??Do you have 104k to drop on a LS600hL,because not alot of people do,so I would not call Lexus "cheap",I would call Lexus less expensive,cheap is what you call a Kia or Hyundai...


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 6/12/2007 4:18:51 AM
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bimmer- spot on

wait to see the 600 in a year or two drop in value when it is yesterdays news


LexusKindaGuy12LexusKindaGuy12 - 6/9/2007 3:17:45 PM
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great review. Very thorough.

Id like to point out a quote.

" The car seemed to go exactly where I pointed it and the steering even provided a good feel of the road, unlike some other Lexus models I was familiar with. Was it as good as, say, a BMW 7 series? Not quite, but it wasn't far behind either."

hehehe


WillisWillis - 6/10/2007 5:47:40 AM
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Why are we comparing this car to a Bentley or Maybach?


IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 6/12/2007 4:20:19 AM
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you put rubies on a dress from Mervyns and goto Red Lobster and you are still a hick


jt716jt716 - 6/9/2007 6:21:13 PM
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I really like the rims...


gsh23gsh23 - 6/9/2007 6:51:24 PM
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hmmm the 40 bucks in my wallet says im not getting one...


Agent63Agent63 - 6/9/2007 7:00:40 PM
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That's a review I respect. Probably a non-biased review. Overall the LS is close to its competition though. Compared to the previous gen LS this has improved greatly and is now a true contender in the USDM. I wouldn't say it's a contender in the world market(YET)


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 6/10/2007 7:32:55 PM
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"close to its competition though"? You really got a sense of humor there.

How about "no competition for many years to come"?



LexusLexus - 6/9/2007 7:46:23 PM
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The beauty and elegant of the Lexus LS600hl is just stunning.


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/9/2007 10:58:21 PM
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I love Lexus new design(L-Finess),but they should get BBS to suply their wheels,because some Lexus wheels are horrible!!


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/10/2007 12:01:09 AM
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I'm sorry, but "L-Finesse" is the most pretentious, laughable name I've ever heard for a design "philosophy." Admittedly, it's a HUGE improvement over the old Lexus cars, but couldn't they call it something... else?


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/11/2007 1:28:47 AM
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Oh, I was ready for an attack like that.

It's not the styling I dislike. As I said in my post, it's a HUGE improvement- the IS350 is a great-looking sedan, as are the new LS and ES. It's just the name that sounds pretentious. Almost as pretentious as the sound of... well, "Lexus."


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/10/2007 12:01:36 AM
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Those are hot rims. How did they get their hands on a Neiman Marcus Edition, and nobody else did?!


silent_powersilent_power - 6/10/2007 6:06:36 AM
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Check also LS600h/L presentation in Japan.
Over 100 separate species of leather interior, Active Power Stabilizers and the list goes on... Tremendous luxury car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QV5YGqyKXk&mode=related&search=


silent_powersilent_power - 6/10/2007 6:54:32 AM
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"Flip the switch back to comfort mode and it sure beats the beemer in ride quality and tops just about everything I have ever experienced for quiet. Not a trace of wind noise at any speed. Engine noise was muted at all but heavy throttle where it produced a mellow, deep-throated purr."

?t figures. LS600h/L is top in Luxury.


Will_Will_ - 6/10/2007 1:50:36 PM
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It's a beautiful (yes, beautiful) car. The headlights and wheels really make it. I'm almost tempted to look at getting a regular LS460L and see about getting my hands on those headlights and wheels...

As more and more reviews come out, more and more testers note that the suspension/ride of the LS models across the entire range are capable of being sporty.


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 6/10/2007 7:38:25 PM
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R&T in their July issue praised LS600hL's seamlessly smooth hybrid powertrain and its handling a lot. That car tested by R&T has no active stabilizers either.


Homer008Homer008 - 6/11/2007 8:06:14 AM
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Only if BMW, Mercs or an Audi could even come close to the technology and review as such as these....











Will_Will_ - 6/11/2007 4:02:49 PM
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Larry, you're crazy!


XYZZXYZZ - 6/12/2007 3:41:49 AM
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the most technically advanced car made today. period.

aside from all the hybrid tech, it adsorbs the exhaust from cold start ups, and cycles it thru once the catalyst warms up. equivalent to a dog that scoops up and disposes of its own poop!

NO other car made can match that. no other car, other than electric only, is as clean with so much power available.




IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 6/12/2007 4:22:42 AM
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you got that right DOG


XYZZXYZZ - 6/12/2007 4:03:44 AM
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not only super clean, but super quiet as well...

review excerpt:

"The LS hybrid is expected to carry a Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (SULEV) rating. A SULEV rating means the LS 600h L has nearly 70-percent cleaner emissions than the “cleanest” of its competitors.

"The LS600h L is expected to be the quietest car ever made. ***It is SO QUIET that engineers had to go back to the drawing board to redesign all the electric motors and switches because they were becoming noticeable for the first time.***"

this car is indeed, comparable (even superior many respects) to RR and Maybach.




bevisroybevisroy - 6/15/2007 11:27:32 AM
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Lexus ALWAYS understates their 0 - 60 times by at least .5 seconds. Here are the results of the 5 Top Luxury Cars in this test which was reported in the January Issue of Car and Driver. Please note these tests were all done on the same day at about the same time and at the same altitude. The results reflect the average of 3 runs and all cars are the 2007 vintage.

Mercedes S550 5.6, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.1 (Benz show 5.4 in their specs)
BMW 750iL 5.7, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.2
Jag XJ Super 6.0 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.5
Lexus LS460L 6.2 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.6
Audi A8 6.8 0 - 60 quarter mile 15.2

Note that Lexus, as usual, is more than the 5.4 the manufacturer CLAIMS to get by .8 seconds.

Also note the LS430 (prior model the LS460 replaced) was rated at 295 HP and was actually 278 when Lexus corrected their rating. And there were no refunds or apologies from the so-called "quality" car company. ABC - Always Be Careful what you buy from the (REPREHENSIBLE) Toyota/Lexus people.....



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