Japanese Supercar War to Heat Up

Japanese Supercar War to Heat Up
Who will win the battle of the Japanese? The new LF-A, the redesigned GT-R, or the future NSX?

Which one do you think will be the best? Throw the brand name out the window and look at the history of Japanese sports cars.
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LexusLunaticLexusLunatic - 6/14/2007 10:06:57 AM
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i think the gtr and the nsx will have better name as jpn sports car. the lf-a is the new kid on the block with lots to prove since the lexus sc430 was not so good as a coupe or a convertible.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 6/14/2007 10:54:49 AM
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its the gtr for me, honda seems to be turning the nsx into a front engined gt, and the lexus is hideous, but from the spy shots ive seen of the gtr almost undisguised it looks good to be honest depending on how they price it im seriously considering getting one


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 6/14/2007 7:39:34 PM
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thanks for that little piece of inspired genius that styling is subjective, hence it being opinion.....


Will_Will_ - 6/14/2007 11:09:06 AM
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I've been waiting for this. German R8 vs. 911 vs. Gallardo etc. are fun, but the Japanese supercar race is where the action's at.

In this case, it is the GT-R and NSX with proven track records/name recognition, maybe moreso the GT-R, so it will be Lexus that has to fight the upward battle (which the brand constantly has to do).

They all look good, but honestly I think I like the LF-A's overall language the best.

With the LF-A getting three different engine options, (V8, hybrid V8, V10) this should be real interesting...


answeranswer - 6/14/2007 11:10:03 AM
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I think all three will be awesome, but the price of the LFA could be a problem. Under $150,000 it would be fine, but the rumours of it being near $200,000 are scary.


LexusLunaticLexusLunatic - 6/14/2007 11:18:58 AM
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200,000 people will not even give it a second look because it is too high for traditional lexus. lexus is a luxury brand for a different audience who may not be able to afford a mercedes or bmw but still just as good luxury.

even 150,000 is too much. i think 120,000 is good pricing


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/14/2007 11:31:10 AM
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Especially when the R8 is coming in at $118,000 for the R-tronic version.

It does depend on engines, though. The R8 has a "base" V8 engine at that price, and a more expensive ten-cylinder model will come later. On the other hand, if the LF-A is standard with a V10, it has a right to be more expensive. Think $130-140K.


w209w114w209w114 - 6/14/2007 11:32:30 AM
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Why get a lexus for 200K when I can get a Lamborghini Gallardo? is the question people will be asking. This pricing bracket will break the LF-A if true.


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/15/2007 12:38:26 AM
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LexusLunatic:
You are a moron!!Lexus are just as expensive as most of the german vehicles,so your saying that people like Bill Gates,Mel gibson and other famous and rich that drive Lexus can't afford german luxury vehicle..
Your full of crap!!


w209w114w209w114 - 6/14/2007 11:28:01 AM
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NSX is the winner here. It will have more aggressive styling and already have brand recognition. Not to mention it will outperform the competition. Honda has a much better racing heritage and proven track record.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/14/2007 11:33:12 AM
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Not necessarily. The GT-R is a legend, and its amazing capabilities have translated well in its core markets. It sells.

On the other hand, the NSX, as impressive as it was, was a total flop in the real world. People just weren't ready for a $100,000 Acura in 1992. I'm confident that in the U.S., had they badged it as a Honda (like almost everywhere else), it would've sold out. Probably.

Actually, I can't be sure. Honda might not have enough "prestige" to sell a car that expensive here... and Acura doesn't, either.


w209w114w209w114 - 6/14/2007 11:54:15 AM
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Right. So you mean Nissan has enough prestige?


Homer008Homer008 - 6/15/2007 1:29:54 AM
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S4, How was NSX a flop? It set a new standard for the exotic cars in many ways and achieved so many positive changes to the consumers..how was NSX a flop?







Will_Will_ - 6/14/2007 11:31:02 AM
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The LF-A will be the most upscale of the three, without a doubt. Lexus is trying to stretch itself into Euro territory as well, as much as I have my own reservations about that. Lexus wants this car to compete directly with the 911. R8, SLR crew.

I think it will be interesting to see the pricing of the three different-engined variations. Maybe the V8 will be the lower-end more in the price range of the NSX and GT-R, followed with the V8 hybrid and V10 fetching a considerable amount more.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/14/2007 11:34:51 AM
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911/R8 buyers and SLR buyers are quite different. R8 and 911 are around $100,000, and you can drive them every day. They're very rewarding. On the other hand, SLR is $420,000 and it would be cruel to drive it every day.

So which one will the LF-A be? I'm hoping it'll be closer to the R8... Lexus would lose a lot of potential buyers if they priced it over $200,000.


Will_Will_ - 6/14/2007 11:42:27 AM
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Yeah, I don't know why I threw the SLR in there...


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/14/2007 11:36:21 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the GT-R will be the best as a sports car, but that's not the total package. Both the NSX and LF-A (especially the Lexus) should offer some level of luxury, and I have a feeling the LF-A will be like the R8 in that it can be driven as an "everyday supercar." I am excited for them all to come out.


Will_Will_ - 6/14/2007 11:41:13 AM
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Considering Lexus pricing is ALWAYS a strongpoint for the brand, I'm not TOO worried...

The LF-A being the most luxury-oriented and "user-friendly" yet still with some performance guts is almost the exact reason why I like Aston Martin so much. (Although I must say, If the LF-A and a DB9 turned out to match up in price, I'd pick the Aston, every time.)

That NSX concept that's featured in the photo here is old in terms concept design. The fact that it still looks modern is a plus, but come production time there will be heavy changes, I'm sure.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 6/14/2007 11:50:17 AM
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im putting putting the GTR on the tab. pricing starts about 75k-80k idr. but im very eager to see them all come out.


Anti_BangleAnti_Bangle - 6/14/2007 1:56:32 PM
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I hope Honda will bring us the HSX. Keep it mid-engined. If possible, add SH-AWD to it.


AnthonyAnthony - 6/14/2007 4:13:35 PM
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I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but I think the LF-A will be the better performer of the three. I know it's all speculative, shoot me, but think about it. The GT-R wont get a V10 option like the other two, and the NSX is most likely going to be front-engine with all wheel drive.

The LF-A on the other hand, will be a mid-engined V10 powerhouse. Expect it to be the most agile Toyota/Lexus production vehicle ever too, with F1 specialists having input on the car's development. Sure it will cost more, you will get what you pay for.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 6/14/2007 8:55:18 PM
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i heard they'll bring out the RX7, i havent got an idea on wat it looks like though.


trd1trd1 - 6/14/2007 8:13:05 PM
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1.LF-A
2.GT-R
3.NSX
but i think the only one thats going to come out any time soon is going to be the GT-R.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 6/14/2007 8:53:41 PM
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Thumbs up for the GT-R only because Nissan has consistently excelled in engine design. I'm basically punishing Toyota for having had some engine sludge problems and Honda for introducing the NSX many years ago with an inherently-out-of-balance 90-degree V6 engine instead of a 90-degree V8. Corporate culture in the car industry has considerable inertia that takes a long time to improve -- that is why consumers should fight back by lengthy punishment of companies that make unforgivable mistakes.


stldrummerstldrummer - 6/14/2007 10:28:33 PM
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I'd have to say...
1.GT-R
2.LF-A
3.NSX

I've always been a honda fan, but I don't like what I see in the NSX concepts. And, even though the GT-R is going to be cheaper than any of the others, it should still be faster than the NSX. The LF-A with the v-10 should be fasther, though. I gave the GT-R number one for its stunning design, and all the hype haha.


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/15/2007 12:53:37 AM
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The NSX will have a V10 engine with around 550hp and a top speed of about 200mph.But I still think the LF-A with have an advantage over the NSX,because of all the R&D they have done on the Lexus LA-F...


2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/15/2007 12:54:38 AM
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Mistype:
The NSX will have a V10 engine with around 550hp and a top speed of about 200mph.But I still think the LF-A will have an advantage over the NSX,because of all the R&D they have done on the Lexus LA-F...





2JZSoarer2JZSoarer - 6/15/2007 12:48:36 AM
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Check this video of the NSX at the "RING",note the S2000 body but longer and with a V10 engine!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNav/articleId=120921/firstNav=Gallery/videoId=20120895




LexusLunaticLexusLunatic - 6/15/2007 7:56:54 PM
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v10 is so out there. they dont even have a v8 for their regular models and they skip to v10.


BadgermikeBadgermike - 6/19/2007 11:37:34 AM
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Here is the new gt-r caught in testing in Arizona.
http://flickr.com/photos/mikefield/sets/72157594528020753/detail/


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