Porsche to Launch "PDK" dual-clutch gearbox

Porsche to Launch
Porsche is set to launch its own DSG-style dual-clutch gearbox that will be called ‘PDK’, short for Porsche Doppel Kupplungen or Porsche Double Clutches. Though Volkswagen was one of the first carmakers to offer dual-clutch systems on its cars, Porsche was actually one of the pioneers of the innovative transmission.


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truecarlovertruecarlover - 6/21/2007 9:31:40 PM
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I think it's because the DSG VW and Audi uses would not handle the torque of a Porsche. That's why Audi's more expensive models don't have it. Technology is nice - but call me old school - but I still like to use my left foot to activate the clutch. I'm sure Porsche will keep it sporty....but still...


SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 6/22/2007 2:44:25 AM
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Because the DSG transmission Audi and VW currently use (not including the brand-new 7-speed DSG for their small models) can't handle the torque. So therefore Porsche - the inventor of double-clutch gearboxes - wanted to set the benchmark again. This will probably have 7 gears and a dry clutch bath for even faster shifting and weight reduction.

The PDK is meant to replace all the Tiptronics (also a Porsche invention) currently on the market.


truecarlovertruecarlover - 6/22/2007 6:53:51 AM
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Did I get de-boosted because I think manuals are more fun? Wow - that's interesting.
Servo - for some reason I have a feeling this is being developed for the 911 Turbo - though I'm not sure this soon in the technology they could make such a big jump in the ability to handle power. I would be amazed if they do. Just as an FYi - Tiptronic and DSG were developed by third parties in conjunction with Porsche and VW. Same thing with Porsche's new Turbo system (which is amazing by the way!!!)


d1sinfod1sinfo - 6/22/2007 10:48:12 AM
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Because Audi/VW raided someone else for there gearbox :)

Cough Borg Warner Cough

Josh

p.s. I realized that it could still be asked why they didn't raid borg warner like Audi/VW. It makes sense for them to develop something independent, especially with the tension surrounding the R8. It has won every review, even against the 911t, although the Willow Springs lap times seem shady to me :)




IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 6/23/2007 5:45:06 AM
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the VW/ AUDI DSG was designed with Porsche to only go in transverse mounted engines

the A4 has the same engine as the TT and A3 but it is not mounted transversly so it gets the CVT and Tiptronic

The power could be a reason but the the Boxster's torque is fine for the current DSG

there is a DSG for the S5 out there and I am sure there has been some working togeather with Porsche


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 6/21/2007 9:26:55 PM
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So when will it debut?
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rom64rom64 - 6/21/2007 9:42:41 PM
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VW's DSG is only applicable to transverse mounted engines at this point of time. That's why it is only offered on their 4-cylinder engines. Porsche's PDK will have to be an entirely different mechanism for it's engines.


SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 6/22/2007 3:01:17 PM
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There is one exception: the mighy Veyron.

It has 1250 Nm coupled to a custom Ricardo 7-speed DSG.
It is designed to last for over 10 years!!

That's what I call engineering.


motomoto - 6/23/2007 4:40:07 AM
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d1sinfo, I don't get your point. Is there some problem with companies collaborating to produce excellent machinery?

Borg Warner and VAG worked together to make what is widely regarded as the best auto-clutch gearbox on the market, the DSG. Honda worked together with Aisin to make what is widely regarded as one of the best-shifting manual transmissions on the market for the S2000.

Gone are the days when any manufacturer does everything in-house. Toyota commonly goes to former GM parts suppliers for its components, but ... shhh ... it's a secret. Fanboys won't like it if they knew that American, German, and Japanese cars often rely on the same subsuppliers!


truecarlovertruecarlover - 6/24/2007 8:24:06 AM
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Servo - I think you might want to double check that. The Bugatti was built with VW's money - the W16 engine and the AWD included. Although it's 7 speed - I don't think the gearbox is a DSG. If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit and pay homage.

moto - that's for pointing out the facts.


d1sinfod1sinfo - 6/25/2007 9:42:44 AM
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Ohh nothing is wrong with it at all. I love it, the DSG is amazing. I test drove a GTi recently and thought it to be the cats meow.

For years I have praised BMW for using Getrag transmissions in many of there cars. The reason I bust Audi's balls because of there advertising.


yrralis1yrralis1 - 6/21/2007 9:46:54 PM
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I currently own an 07 997S and look forward to any advancements with this car yet I would want to wait for at least a year (perhaps more) and see how well its reliability measures up.


xj13xj13 - 6/21/2007 9:56:21 PM
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Take note Lexus, it's time to copy.

GO PORSCHE
GO AUDI
BROTHERS IN ARMS..........I gonna cry.


xj13xj13 - 6/21/2007 11:15:15 PM
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Real me do cry camrylover...............


xj13xj13 - 6/21/2007 11:16:04 PM
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I mean, Real men do cry........


richardp996richardp996 - 6/21/2007 11:55:34 PM
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I do not believe it. I'll wait until a Porsche press release.


t_bonet_bone - 6/22/2007 9:15:12 AM
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I'm sick of hearing it too. PDK release date is calculated on a fixed equation: Now() + 3 years


Htay7500Htay7500 - 6/22/2007 9:18:28 AM
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I dont get this PDK either, wont the 911 turbo have a dsg?


richardp996richardp996 - 6/22/2007 1:30:16 PM
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The thing is that this is no different from previous articles mentioning the same thing. So this article is pretty pointless unless release date is available.


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