Toyota to UAW: "Fire Em All" Toyota Considers Dumping Plant

Toyota to UAW:
According to the now-infamous Georgetown, Kentucky memo, ToMoCo’s brass are concerned that their workers’ wages are growing faster than the company's profits. To rectify this situation, Toyota’s newest plants will pay workers based on local manufacturing wages– not United Auto Workers (UAW) scale. Naturally, the UAW is using this as flamebait to organize Toyota’s stateside operations, starting with Georgetown. Toyota’s launched its next salvo in this ongoing war of wages: they’re contemplating pulling Tacoma production from NUMMI.

GM and Toyota formed NUMMI (New United Motor Manufacturing Inc.) in 1984. The Fremont, California facility was Toyota’s first foray into American manufacturing and GM’s chance to learn about Toyota’s take on lean manufacturing. The 380-acre NUMMI facility currently cranks-out approximately 250k cars (Toyota Corolla, Pontiac Vibe) and 170k trucks (Toyota Tacoma) per year.


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w209w114w209w114 - 7/5/2007 10:13:50 AM
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Its like GM and Ford all over again. I would hate to be one of those affected people.


kart1kart1 - 7/5/2007 10:54:49 AM
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Yes there are people affected in this scenario who might lose their jobs, etc. but I'd like to say that they are making a little too much. $32 plus benefits for high school education is really good, too good. I mean people complain that Toyota is making profits and still cutting costs, well that is the reason Toyota makes profits otherwise they'd end up like GM and Ford.


Agent009Agent009 - 7/5/2007 11:16:22 AM
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I agree most are trying to live an impossible dream. White collar wages for blue collar work.

But this is Toyota's first real bump in the road, and I find it hard to believe they would consider packing their bags.

So much about loyalty to the American worker.


Agent009Agent009 - 7/5/2007 11:45:45 AM
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Well it isn't as if they have exhausted all avenues. They basically have said you get paid too much and it is only going to get worse, so we may move to cut out the problem (read that as "you").

They also built here fully aware of the wages in the workforce and now they don't like it.


Will_Will_ - 7/5/2007 1:05:06 PM
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You can't just point a finger at Toyota for putting a plant in a region and then not sticking it out and doing nothing about a problem that wont seem to go away. What do you want them to do? Just sit there and let things get worse? Many Toyota naysayers like to bring GM and Ford comparisons to the table when talking about the brand's expansion in their own little dreams of their downfall, but what none of them realize is that Toyota is NOT GM or Ford, they fix problems when they see them...


Agent009Agent009 - 7/5/2007 2:36:46 PM
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Actually I think the target the south primarily due to better weather allowing more works days and these states will give huge tax breaks to locate there.



EL34EL34 - 7/5/2007 11:20:46 AM
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Since Toyota has already outsourced these jobs and don't want to pay anymore wages why don't they move production to Mexico and give those people the jobs?


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 7/5/2007 11:54:33 AM
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"Fire Em All" is a little inflammatory, tho I expect nothing less here. It is quite possible that Toyota will someday close NUMMI or leave the partnership. I dont expect Toyota to keep plants that are not profitable open. As soon as that starts happening, they will be just like the domestics.


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/6/2007 10:22:23 PM
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good


1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 7/5/2007 11:56:01 AM
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And what does this have to do with the Kentucky plant? Maybe I read the articel wrong, but I thought it was about NUMMI.


izfuneyizfuney - 7/5/2007 12:03:35 PM
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Actually nothing !!! There is no conenction between the two... and frankly nothing really to do with UAW.

This article is flame bait tooo..(AutoSpies = needs to generate eyeballs for advert money)





Will_Will_ - 7/5/2007 1:01:57 PM
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Toyota is a business.
Businesses #1 priority is profitability.

What else needs to be said?


Agent009Agent009 - 7/5/2007 2:37:11 PM
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Now we wouldn't do that would we?


twistednecktwistedneck - 7/5/2007 4:47:45 PM
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Toyota has one of the highest paid union work forces in the world at home.. except the japanese govt. helps pay for healthcare and retirement.

Here, your on your own and toyota isn't nearly as caring of the american worker as Ford, GM and Chrysler.

GO UAW, expose toyota for what it is - a dirty low down company. supplier relations? ha, try getting business pulled because they want to exploit the weak yen. lame bloated company, oversold, tries to hard, to many lemming dorks can't get enough.


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/6/2007 10:26:08 PM
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The Japs don't want to spend anymore here than they have to . Get the cars built as cheap as possible so the homeland,( theirs) is as big as possible


bevisroybevisroy - 7/5/2007 6:05:16 PM
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Lexus ALWAYS understates their 0 - 60 times by at least .5 seconds. Here are the results of the 5 Top Luxury Cars in this test which was reported in the January Issue of Car and Driver. Please note these tests were all done on the same day at about the same time and at the same altitude. The results reflect the average of 3 runs and all cars are the 2007 vintage.

Mercedes S550 5.6, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.1 (Benz show 5.4 in their specs)
BMW 750iL 5.7, 0 - 60 quarter mile in 14.2
Jag XJ Super 6.0 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.5
Lexus LS460L 6.2 0 - 60 quarter mile 14.6
Audi A8 6.8 0 - 60 quarter mile 15.2

Note that Lexus, as usual, is more than the 5.4 the manufacturer CLAIMS to get by .8 seconds.

Also note the LS430 (prior model the LS460 replaced) was rated at 295 HP and was actually 278 when Lexus corrected their rating. And there were no refunds or apologies from the so-called "quality" car company. ABC - Always Be Careful what you buy from the (REPREHENSIBLE) Toyota/Lexus people.....



sewingmachinesewingmachine - 7/5/2007 7:43:04 PM
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what a cracker jack lol.


dodgedartdodgedart - 7/6/2007 12:05:10 AM
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time for chrysler to move in and start building the highly anticipated new for 09 dodge dart swinger right there in fremont. That will show toyota.


XYZZXYZZ - 7/6/2007 3:48:21 AM
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XYZZXYZZ - 7/6/2007 3:51:23 AM
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buttheadroy--

until you learn to get BEYOND repetitive c&p posts, and come up with ORIGINAL new things to say, please refrain from cluttering up these pages.


XYZZXYZZ - 7/6/2007 4:24:21 AM
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twistedneck:
"GO UAW, expose toyota for what it is - a dirty low down company. supplier relations? "


???

toyota actually has the HIGHEST RESPECT of supplier companies. which is why they get the BEST parts from suppliers, and their cars go at least TWICE as far before getting parts failures.

your PERCEPTIONS are TWISTED too?

apparently, if you are backing the greedy UAW!






toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/6/2007 9:46:24 AM
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Toytie is stating to smell like Wal Mart , We want all the money that's being spent on automobiles and we are going to exploit our workers to do it .


ctsangctsang - 7/6/2007 2:53:59 PM
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i am all for shutting down the nummi plant


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/6/2007 10:21:03 PM
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sounds like you don't work there or give a rats a$$ for anyone else either


autoproautopro - 7/6/2007 11:32:56 PM
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Here's the way it goes.I hire you to do this job.I'm going to pay you x. If you try to start a union your fired.Next person who wants to work for x.



ellivesellives - 7/12/2007 6:48:02 PM
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Either the UAW or Toyota must die. Toyota has been riding on the coat tails of the big 3 for long enough. It's time to send them back to Japan.


XYZZXYZZ - 7/13/2007 7:54:35 AM
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"Toyota has been riding on the coat tails of the big 3 for long enough..."


LOL! who's been riding on WHOSE coattails?

GM had SHUT DOWN the fremont, CA plant. which got RE-OPENED as NUMMI when toyota entered the picture.

GM joined up TO LEARN FROM toyota. all of the QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS at gm (as well as ford) was due to THEIR riding on the coattails of info they PICKED UP FROM TOYOTA on how to make QUALITY cars.

what they did not learn DIRECTLY from toyota and picked up on their own, was STILL mainly a consequence of the COMPETITIVE PRESSURE forced on them.

if not for the japanese breathing down their necks, the domestics would STILL be cranking out the crapmobiles that they were in the 1980s!




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