Toyota Quickly Addresses Naggling Tundra Tranmission Issues

This truck has way too many problems - broken camshaft, unstable shaking beds, transmission torque converter issues and now, flimsy tailgates. I saw the post over at "toyotatundrasolutions (aka Toyota fanboys)" and their members are now reporting failed tailgate bending and warping when loaded with 600lb ATVs.

The problem seems to be epidemic.

WTF? If you can't load an ATV in your fullsize pickup truck, then what is the point?

They tailgate issue is pretty widespread. I personally have seen the whole tailgate buckle at Home Depot loading concrete bags.

It seems odd you can build a truck to carry 2,000 lbs but you can't use the tailgate for a 600lb ATV.

And everyone thought that Nissan was the only one that couldn't build a full size. I would absolutely take the Titan over the Tundra any day. The interior alone is enough to make anyone run away screaming.

There do seem to be "naggling" issues with this new Tundra. But any quick scan of the web (NHTSA would be a good place to start) will reveal many more issues with the domestic full size pickups. The Tundra seems to be more than holding its own on a quality level. But it is in vogue right now to find these Toy quality slips. No prob, if anything the added scrutiy will cause them to re-double their efforts, and that can only be good in the long run (But I digress from my point...)

The more important about this latest round of Tundra negativity is that a lot of it is being fueled by blog entries, which we all know are so accurate. It is interesting that 009 saw a Tundra tailgate buckle in person. You do seem to get out a lot to experience a lot of first hand events. Nevertheless, as I am sure you know, responsible journalism is not based on isolated events or anecdotal evidence. And it certainly isnt based on a handful of bloggers experiences, real tho they undoubtedly are.

Some questions...
How many tens (soon to be hundreds) of thousands of owners are not having this problem? How many owners of other brands have this problem? How many owners on that particular blog actually have experienced the problem? (Ten pages of posts at TundraSolutions, but about half the posts are from the same guy, and most posters kept saying they needed to go check their Tundra, but never got back with the results of their inspection.) You will not find these answers on a blog. A responsible journalist would research this info. But responsible journalism is not found on a blog.

I know my comments will be dismissed as just my Toy bias. But since there about six of us on this site that actually like Toyotas (all the faux fans not included, natch), I had to chime in with something.

I agree with you the Titan does have an ugly interior. And couldn't stop from 60-0 to save its' life. Maybe it could do it once but that would be it. Time for a whole new front end.

The better way of dealing with these issues would have been to make sure that they never left testing phase un-corrected/detected, but... I guess they wanted a quick 'counter strike' to the new GM offerings.

Hind site is... Well you know.

The new Tundra has a few issues, so what? GM, Ford and Dodge have all had to put 100K powertrain warranties on their junk boxes because of mechanical issues. And they've been building full size trucks for how long??

The Tundra is aimed at a very abusive market. Most full size truck owners are contractors, hunters, laborers or do some other type of work or play that involves punishing their rigs. Toyota just needs to work out the bugs and keep rolling. Lets not forget how dependable the original p/u was and nor how well the Tacomas have held up.

Hell, Nissan is still selling that crap wagon Titan. I had friend who had his bought back through the lemon law because it ate three sets of rotors and two front ends. If the little 3 can sell trucks, Toyota can too.

I have never seen a Tundra with a load in it. With one exception, every Tundra that i have seen is driven by a woman, and probably never carries anything heavier than a bad of potting soil.
i'm sure Toyota builds a decent truck, but why are the seats still practically on the floor like in the 1972 Toyota HiLux that my buddy owned 30 years ago?
My back is killing me after 1/2 hour in any vehicle like that, and the Tacoma is the worst that I've sat in, with the Tundra and Sequoia being "less bad" but still inexcusable. (and the Dodge Durango giving them a good run for poor seating)

Here in Middle East there were no trend/market of trucks(Pick-up).Maybe less than 1% of pick-up trucks were private owned, but that completly changed after the release of new Tundra,now i see a lot of them.
Not only the tundra but also the chevy,Ford and titans.

I mean toyota do open new categories and have the range/appeal/power to introduce/reach to new audiences.

U have to give Toyota credit for it.

JUGNU

Give Toyota credit for opening a new category. Sure. Chevy's only been building pickups for 100 years, and Ford's has been the best selling vehicle in America for the last 30 years. Why not give Toyota the credit?

Cool! So what you're saying is that the Tundra is the closest thing to a camel on 4-wheels. That's certainly an interesting endorsement..........

I meant Give Toyota credit for PROPERLY introducing the trucks to the Arabs(needles to say who are one of the core coustomers of Trucks,i have not seen an arab without an SUV).

Then why in that 100 years GM and Ford never reached and convinced the arabs about the pick-up trucks.
And Toyota only did it with the second generation Tundra.

and btw i have already seen your jeolousy/hatred/crap towards Toyota and group on the other forum (Lexus GS forum)

so no point in telling u to give toyota credit.Ignorant

JUGNU

JUGNU, which city do you work in? Because I havent seen any tundras yet in Ajman, and not yet in Sharjah either.

Americans never seem to realise that their domestic vehicles dont register on the radar of the rest of the world....ever.

the rest of the world keeps forgetting that America doesn't care what it thinks.

(Some of) The rest of the world also fails to realize that more automobiles are sold in America on a monthly basis than are sold in an entire year in most countries.

I thought the same thing, but Hey! this is AutoSpies so most rules don't apply.

"The more important about this latest round of Tundra negativity is that a lot of it is being fueled by blog entries, which we all know are so accurate."

Woah, these problems are posting on "pro-Toyota", "Tundra-specific" websites.

The blogs are only linking to them.

Wouls you call sites like tundrasolutions, fjcruiserforums with hundreds and thousands of pro-Toyota users biased slamming their own purchases?

I don't think so.

The problem exists.

I'm not disputing that a problem exists. And I fully know that these are Toyota specific sites (tho I would disagree that that makes them pro-Toyoyta.) You obviously did not read my post, and I have no intention of repeating my assertions, since you have done nothing to dispute them.

I own a Tundra and use it as a truck pulling 6800-8000lbs 5 days a week. 3mths and 22000 miles no issues. Fantastic vehicle and better than the big for real work.

So, you're not pulling with the tail-gate then? ;)

Toyota is putting BIG incentives on the Tundras in San Antonio. Real tough competition no doubt about it. Obviously they have some design issues to address which will not help overall sales. Got to be able to carry a good load without the tailgate "breakin"!

Toyota will struggle a bit in this market. But not for long. Being Toyota, they will not only fix the problems, but they'll figure out some insanely low-cost way to do it better than "the big 3" (who would't exist if you took away their truck & SUV sales, BTW, and that's a fact).
I've owned Datsun and Toyota trucks (& LandCruiser), just sold my '64 Ford F100, still have a '67 Dodge Power-Wagon and an '82 Chevy 5-ton, and the only truck that I have licensed currently was made in Germany, so I have a bit of experience with trucks.
Regardless of current problems, Toyota will a power-house in the pickup market in less than 10 years.
They'll be kicking butt in Detroit, and nobody will remember the problems with the 2007 models.
I'd bet $10,000 on it!

So my brother's buddy buys a new Ford truck, and he's bragging about all the features.
My brother says: "So that's the one with the heated tail-gate, eh?"
His buddy says: "Heated tail-gate? I don't think so. What's that for?"
"Its to keep your friends' hands warm while their pushing your track back to the garage!"

...........seemed funny at the time