Just How Much Would You Pay For A New Nissan GT-R?

houstoncutie2000 why do you always have to participate in every post that might pose a threat to Toyota, or even give credit to a non-Toyota Japanese company? Let us (AutoSpies bloggers) be, some people have been waiting a long time for this car to hit our shores and well, Toyota in this case doesn’t offer an alternative so maybe just maybe you are speaking out of turn. Like the King of Spain said to Hugo Chavez recently… “Shut Up!”

Why not try an Ariel Atom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom

0-60 in 2.7 seconds and a price of around £35,000 sterling.

$50K fully loaded. They can probably produce it for $25 or $30K with proper accounting. I don't want to get hosed just because its a sports car.

houstoncutie2000,

Would you pay over $65,000 for an IS-F?

airliner..nothing cutie2000 has said has ANYTHING to do with her feeling like the gtr poses any threat to Toyota. read it again if u dont understand it..get off your high horse and let people post their opinions..also, u need to get over your complex about Toyota......deboost away haters...dale lol

"People don't go to a Nissan Delership looking to spend $70,000 on a Nissan..."

But SMART people, the ones who appreciate cars and KNOW cars, walk into a Nissan dealership looking to spend $70K on a GT-R.

I don't know where they got that number but I just don't understand how the GT-R can get from 0-60 in just 3.5 seconds. Although it does have 480 HP and AWD, this car still ways 3800 lbs. and thats a lot to lug around. The lambo gallardo has around 500 hp and weighs around 3200 lbs and is rated w/0-60 of 4 seconds. I was at the LA autoshow and i asked the speaker about the stats and he also said that the figures weren't exactly true. He estimated that it would more realistically be around 4 seconds which is more believable but still hard to accept.

Zero.

:)

In fact, if Nissan gave me this car I would go right out and trade it in for a sexy Corvette convertible ;)

And with the money left over I would treat the family to Olive Garden :)

55K TOPS

50 k tops

more like mid forties

Oh, how very trashy.

You could have atleast "attempted" to show some class and said Carraba's, but Olive Garden? pfft...

for that performance, 70k might be too good of a deal.

It is indeed very expensive. On the brighter side, in about another 3 years from now when I get my driver's license, I'll be able to own one from the used car market for 1/3 the original price. And by that time, I am sure there will be plenty of aftermarket parts available for me to make it go even faster.

Your first car will be a GT-R?
You must be joking...insurance, maintenance (think because it's a Nissan it will be cheap to maintain? Wrong), fuel (in 3 years I'm guessing fuel prices will be higher), initial cost (It will be worth way more than a 1/3 of its price in 3 years, more like 60%), and the highly likely factor that you will die...a 0-60 in 3.5, 480 hp, 192 mph, twin turbo AWD hypercar as your first car...right.
That's really not a good idea. Please do the sensible thing every other rich kid does (I'm guessing you're rich judging by your expectations of your first car) and buy a 3 series or whatever. If you do for some mad reason get bought (you're not using your own money are you) this thing then I beg you, please, please, please take as many advanced driving courses as you can...480hp in the hands of a novice is not a good idea...
I'm a new driver, and let me tell you, everything is fast enough, and you will be very surprised to find out just how quickly "slow" cars get up to speed...hell my car does 0-60 in 11.5 and I suddenly find myself going way faster than I intended.

Why are you people deboosting him? He can get whatever he wants! Maybe a word or two of wisdom since he's young and let him be.!

I guess I'm a little bit confused as to how an auto enthusiast becomes little more than a magazine jockey unless he (1) can drive a car relatively well; or (2) can understand the inner workings of a car on par with that of a mechanic. Unless your father is a mechanic (in which case I'm not quite sure you should be asking for a used GT-R), I fail to see how your opinion is based off of little more than magazine reading, which we can all for ourselves.

good thinking kid ! it will be a great project in a few years...dont listen to the haters..and do yourself a favor, dont get a 3 series ! get a used c63 instead !

I want to get a subaru legacy, then, I'd take autocross lessons. I don't have my license yet, but thats what I intend to do. any young teen in my age group with that much power and little experience with it is gonna cause a threat to others AND themselves. you'd have to "take steps" to get what you want.

Make sure you fill out your organ donor card.. OK?

ignorance is bliss.....

haters haters, leave the kid alone!! LOL

I hope you're not in California. I sure don't want to share the road with some crazy kid who thinks he's invincible.

Personally, I would not buy a Nissan, but for that car, I think that 70-80k might be worth it for the adrenaline junkies who wants a speed thrill.

Why is not an option for choosing to pay less money than the sticker? I would pay $50K for the GT-R considering that is a step up from the Evo and STI. Not one dollar more.

How can you compare it to EVO or STi??? You have NO CLUE what this car is!

most of the people who post that this vehicle isnt worth it really has no clue. from specs/videos/and Nissan's numbers...what is wrong with the price? and nameplate shouldnt be an excuse.

Nissan has the "heritage" the german's rely on and also can be done so with the "reliability" that the jap's focus on.

this car is a beast and i highly doubt the IS-F/RS/AMG/M can compare, this is a supercar!

SVXXX If you think that a boy racer car or tuner car covered with a shell that resembles a sports car equals a Porsche competitor, you are a newbie when it comes to cars.

r15:

it performs, but it's ugly.

that could be why nissan is only importing 1500 of these. if there were really so much demand for a fast but unattractive $70,000 nissan i'm sure they'd import thousands more.

ugly, well style is subjective...especially when this car gets to 190+ mph. the vehicle flat out performs!!!


star...i think you have failed to see the video's lurking around the web of the nurburgring times (7:35) and also the one with the GTR and Porsche running side by side. sheesh, even the Carerra GT does it in 7:36...

please explain to me how that isn't Porsche comparable?

Star.... If this car had 16cylinder engine you'd still say same thing! Basically because it is NISSAN you are set on what you are going to say. AS SIMPLE AS THAT!

my mistake, the Carrera GT did capture both 7:36 and 7:28. but even though, the GTR is extremely quick... 7:35 is in the class of supercars.

SVXXX An Evo or STI can run against a 911 on a track just like this Nissan can run with a Porsche 911 turbo. I never said the GT-R is not fast, I only said is the next thing up from the other boy racer cars category like STI or Evo. What STI and Evo represent in the 35K segment, the GT-R represents in the 70K segment. They are all(Evo, STI and GT-R) just fast econoboxes.

econoboxes? lol, Star you amaze me at how low intellectual ability is. econoboxes...break the word down and you'll understand how stupid you sound!

hint: skyline is nowhere near an econobox!

Did I say you sound stupid because you disagreed with me? You see, this is the main different between people like me who can have a dialog based on facts and people like you who just use insults as replacement for the missing arguments. If you say that I sound stupid you don't really make an argument in the favor of the GT-R. Can you understand that?

Vendetta, one of the biggest losers on this site shared his retarded opinion. Hurray! Keep following me around like a puppy...

somehow i dont think that in 15 years the word supercar will have a picture of the GT-R next to it..............even in the toyota dictionary.

r15mohd

"even the Carerra GT does it in 7:36"

The Carrera GT has lapped the ring in 7:28:
http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=476

"It's sad when this is the only argument that a hater can make, kind of pathetic really."

I agree! And, IMO, it doesn't MATTER what a car's roots are as long as the END PRODUCT is the one that shines! The GT-R, whether the badge on its hood was a Nissan one or not, is an amazing vehicle! That's like saying the M3, RS4, IS-F, C63 are all pieces of crap because they're based on "entry-level" sedans! Does anybody really care about that? NO. They're high-end cars, with excellent performance. The same applies to the GT-R.

S4cabriofone "The GT-R, whether the badge on its hood was a Nissan one or not, is an amazing vehicle! That's like saying the M3, RS4, IS-F, C63 are all pieces of crap because they're based on "entry-level" sedans"


You are such an IGNORANT...How do you know this is an amazing vehicle? A guy like you who's obviously clueless when it comes to cars thinks Nissan suddenly became a super-car maker. It doesn't matter what roots a car has? Are you that clueless? People buy Porsche because Porsche gives the guarantee of excellence with their name. What guarantee a Nissan gives? That you can go fast in a quarter mile? You are a fool...nothing more.
And your infantile comparison with the M3 or AMG cars??? Are you comparing luxury makers with Nissan. M3 or AMG cars are based on an entry LUXURY vehicles but they are almost entirely redesigned from ground up to became the performance sedans that wear those badges(M and AMG). Are you comparing that with what Nissan builds? How pathetic is that?

The world's most expensive rice-rocket. Sorry I know it's a ridiculously fast car, and the styling is not up to par with what others may like. But I can see that headline popping up all over soon enough.

I was shocked to see this thing well over 65k. I would have put it at 50-55. For 60k plus, I'll take an IS-F, M3, S4, AMG. They all may not be as fast (some are), but I would feel better about myself at the end of the day paying for a luxury nameplate instead of a Nissan. It's a good company, don't get me wrong, but something that costs as much as your luxury brand vehicles (a la MX45) should not be in your everyday consumer brand, regardless of where it started overseas.

I think that it should be in the 60k range, in order to compete with the M3s of the world - superior performance, with a similar price - that way, many potential buyers might have a real conundrum (style vs. raw performance?). Any real automotive "enthusiast" would go the raw performance route. However, the purchasing decision is not and should not just be about performance if the vehicle is a daily driver.

The GT-R doesn't, or should I say, the M3, RS4, and C63 do not compete in the same class as the GT-R, how did those cars get into this thread?

I think the M3s/RS4s got in this thread because of relative price parity - a buyer in the $60k-$70k range has three good options with the M3/RS4/C63 (I figure the re-designed RS4 may be a little bit higher given its price relative to M3 historically, but let's leave that out for now). The GT-R complicates things a bit, because for a few $k more, you get performance on the level of a 911 Turbo. Now, I understand that the M3/RS4/C63 are not 100% performance tuned (there has to be some aspect of daily drive-ability for lack of a better term), but I think that a buyer in the segment would at least consider, if only briefly, the GT-R due to its performance aspirations. That's why I think that the GT-R would present a viable choice if it were slightly lower priced, a la Lexus (although in this case, the GT-R performs better, whereby a Lexus gives you 80% of the performance for 80% of the price). The fact is, Nissan will have a hard time garnering buyers in that price range due to its nameplate, unless it absolutely blows the doors off its competition. If you offer it at $60k, you have a comparably priced (if not better priced) vehicle that severely outperforms competitors in the segment, drawing more of the performance-oriented crowd away from a segment that really only had 3 real options.

Thats part of the reason why they are only bringing 1500 here...

70k seems to be rite in line with what should be asked.

if you only want to sell 1500 cars....

i would have ordered one @ 70k if is wasnt so ugly.

i considered it before ordering my isf

You ordered an IS-F?

...

I have nothing to say...

S4 -im curious..im wondering what u have against the isf, especially since you havent driven it. i havent either, but when it gets to the dealership, if i dont like it, i can choose not to get it. i put a small deposit down and chose my options. u consider yourself an "enthusiast" and i would really like to hear what you have to say. truthfully, i could NEVER imagine myself driving a convertible s4. convertible?!?!? obviously, we are very different. so what is it? not fast enough? doesnt have "heritage"? isnt a true sports car? isnt german? ugly? automatic? hate lexus?

Nissan should deliver what they promised, GTR should not go for 1 cent over 70K. By limiting the total number to 1500 units/year, will cause dealers to gouge their customers, they are biteing the hand that feeds them.

By only offering 1500 they are also making sure that the car holds its value and keeps it's place as a rare car.

My god this car is one big ugly prehistoric lookin fish.

Like this one.
http://www.oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/04deepscope/background/deeplight/media/fig3b_600.jpg

No they don't

krautm They do when they pass 2 million miles with the same engine. A few generations Lexus were buried in the car cemetery while the same Mercedes is still running strong. But you keep whining about that cloud...

@EL34

Go get a live and the reason you hate the GTR is because you can't buy one.

It has ugly as the 350Z.

Where's the styling???

Where is it?

Ugly angles.

Stupid lookin' car.

Chicks will hate this car.

Get a sexy Corvette and forget about this Nissan monstrosity

its not as ugly as the 350 !!!

its uglier

EL34, I agree this car is ugly and cheap looking, the fact that it's fast doesn't carry that much weight. So what all performance cars are fast, look at the body, cheap 350Z crap, sorry NOT for me, give me the RS4/M3 anyday thank you.

A lot of Idiot Badge whores here who call themselves enthusiasts know nothing about this car and its history!
It was never meant to compete with a Porsche or any beautiful car out there on looks, the key execution of this car's looks were for it to look mechanical and industrial. Even Nissans's CEO said that they deliberately designed it looked mechanical and mean in execution true to the GTR's history of being GODZILLA!
Anybody who does not know this knows nothing about the GTR!

True to its heritage of being one of the greatest sports cars of this generation, I commend them for staying true to their roots!

Anyway! Real Car enthusiasm is for the love of cars and not for a car's badge or country of origin, like many posters here claim!

Peace out!

so if everyone else here are idiots and not you....how hypocritcal is for you to say the car was desighned to look industrial, and not beautiful....and call the people who think the car is ugly idiots......that is not logical...styling is subjective....as far as the price of thsi car it should be a 70-85,000 car, not anything over that. its interior appears to be nicer than the "base" 911, and im sure at such a low volume it will be less common than the corvette. It isnt an evo or sti, or an M3, or RS4 for several reasons. Those cars are all simply faster versions of another car, this car isnt that its ....a completely new car other than the engine which it shares with the G37, if this car was simply infiniti's answer to the M, or AMG and was based on the G37 and was a hyped g37 i would say 70 grand was way to much. but up to 85 grand doesnt sound ourageous for this car, even a bargain at that price hell the rs4 runs up to over 70 grand, the convertible is 80+ and cant touch this car neither can any of the cars that the RS4 competes with. in short 70-85,000 is a great price for this car

so, in other words, they tried to make it ugly on purpose??

I'll rather wait one year and pay the regular 70K price. And if even that doesn't work out, i am even willing to go up to 80 grand, but no more.

valuing performance per dollar is too simplistic.

we buy cars because the total package works....performance, styling, luxury, technology, etc.

thought i respect the performance of this car, the looks are such a turnoff that i wouldn't even consider it for $50,000.

dude people are waiting on the list with 85 grand to buy the GTR, i hardly suppose that nissan dealers will even be bothered about your rejection of GTR.

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if there were really so much demand for a fast but unattractive $70,000 nissan i'm sure they'd import thousands more than a mere 1500 units. they are running a business right?

I think that's a good price, even with the $15,000 premium. This car competes with Porsche and a Carrera like this would be over $100,000.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

What your paying for is the the extensive R&D. Regardless of the nameplate, anything that achieves the kind of performance that has initially been reported is extraordinary. Even the best performance bargin to date, the Z06, can't match these figures for relatively the same price. I for one would never allow a nameplate to dictate how expensive or inexpensive a car should be. Instead, I would allow the merits of the car do that. Otherwise, I think it would be "snobish".

Houston just proved that she bashes everything not Toyota without even knowing the facts. Just gets a warm and fuzzy by knocking other cars to get a rise out of fans...lol. Another reason no one takes you seriously.

Anyways I am sure that Nissan is trying to directly compete with the Corvette and Porsche niche'. This may be a reason the base Vette increased power to 430BHP because it saw this car coming. This will be a good high-end sports car by what I have read. I still find it hard to believe it clocks 3.5 in 0-60. I also may warm up to the exterior when I see it in person.

As for dealer markups...you better believe it unless it gets word directly from Nissan to sell at sticker. I expect this car to sell at $75-80K. Mostly due to the exclusivity than actually worth.

the more people who hate this car means better chance for me to get one. so drink up haters! cheers ;)

You know youre gettin' a 2009 Toyota Celica.

Oh boy!

If EL34 was not around AutoSpies this place would have been so boring!
EL34 = free entertainment!

I wonder if he could be cured... probably not!

The car is worth every penny but its exclusive-ness will no doubt drive the price up. Once the hype and marketing starts up for it I can see them going for as much as $90k easily.

Why not $15000 premium initially?
The retro Ford Thounderbird had a $10000 markup when it was just
released. Now, where is it?
I predict the markup on GT-R will continue for a 2-3 years. Then you will see discount like normal cars.
If you had bought a NSX in 1991 for $55K. You can still sell it today for $20K easily with (<100K miles) after 16 years!!! Some sports car with followers depreciates very very slowly.

Look at that big old plastic clunky wing on the back!

Oh my god!

Looks like the wing off my old Merkur XR4Ti.

You know Scott Pruett used to race those ;)

Here's some photos of the car.

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1988/Daytona-1988-01-31-011.jpg

http://www.merkurclub.com/images/Roush_XR4Ti_3.jpg

You kind of like wrong!

the merkur looked better than this toyota

bmwdrvr,

Hypocrite?
Are you a badge whore?
Are you an idoit? If not, then not to worry! just get on with your life!

Styling is subjective indeed!

I want this car. This is the best car coming from Japan so it is GREAT! It's a shame that only 1500 are coming each year. Huge markups....

For the performance, its a steal @ $70K. My concern would be for the dealer network: are they up to the task of handling a well-heeled clientle, who spends 70K+ on a sports car?

only specific well certified nissan dealers will be able to sell the GTR, so i think that customer service will not be an issue.

this would look good on the floor next to a camry. I can see it now "77,000 that must be a typo"

@EL34

Plastic wing what are you talking about its carbon you idiot.

This is what it says on the Nissan website,

Body-color rear spoiler with integrated center high-mounted stop light.

You would think they would add in it's made out of carbon?

But, I guess Datsun forgot :)

I'd pay 90k for it...

hey... thats the button I clicked! 90k seems entirely resonable for the performance/rarity/technology/looks/and track record. And its a fun idea to know that when rollin in this car, you are rollin in the only current non-brokea$$ Nissan made.

$70k the most. Its just a nissan, not a porsche.

90K to 100K is what i voted for.

and not 100K Plus as at that price point it should be luxurious too.Maybe in the future an Infiniti badged would go for over 100K.

JUGNU

if the gtr looked like the g37, i would have paid 90k

I can't wait to see one of these GTR's pull up next to a real sports car like a Ferrari F430.

This Datsun will look like a big plastic chunk bottom!

lol

So is tuned Evo...so what. They are all(STI, EVO, GT-R) still econoboxes.

please, F430 is ferrari's econobox. i wouldnt even waste a glance.

Keep dreaming sour kraut master.

^^^ Look who's talking...

Kraut_Master: Are you implying that if you had a choice between a Ferrari and a GTR you would choose a GTR because it's faster? You are certifiably insane and totally delusional. This just proves that you have no heart for true automobiles, just what you perceive as better due to your fascinations with "The Fast and the Furious".

P.S.: If speed is your only inspiration, you can get a modded 10-second EVO(which will smoke a GTR) for 1/2 the price.

The cover of every car magazine says the Datsun GTR is a Corvette fighter.

The Corvette is a chick magnet and the GTR is guy magnet.

Good luck with that Datson

If you are using "Datson" as a means of making fun of the GT-R, please at least use the proper spelling which is Datsun.

You can't beat this deal if you are looking for a true and street legal performance sportcar. Unless you are badge whore than, than this is NOT the car for you.

Personally, if I have the money I would get one myself, this Nissan GT-R performance is just stunning. It out perform the Lambo Gallardo, Ferrari F430, Porsche turbo and many other exotic sportcars.

It only take the base model Nissan GT-R go around the famous German track in 7:38s and 0-60 in 3.5s or less.

This Nissan GT-R will be an instant hit and classic once it is release.

Lexus
p.s have a Happy Thanksgiving Day everyone autospie, gopple gopple.

Lexus, it's gobble gobble ;)

I'd take the GTR or Z06. I appreciate all exotics like the 911, F430, and lamborghinis. but the last time I saw any of these cars, they were in a music video or in a public street in DC. so far, theyre being showed off more. most of the people buying these boy racer (aka evo and sti) are actually using this car for a real purpose.

deboost me if you like, because if I can, I'd buy the GTR to take to the track and not be showoffs like those porsches and ferrari owners.

I see all those cars everyday here in Newport Beach, Ca.

The other day I was showing property to a client and the people living in the house were tenants and in the garage was a new blue Ferrari F430 Spyder.

The house was right on the ocean off PCH.

EL34, you're friendly real estate agent ;)

Porsche and Ferrari not on the tracks? you should go to the tracks more often. Porsche and Ferrari are always holding events. Its one thing to praise the GTR, its another thing to bash Porsches and Ferrari.

I know they do, but I'm talking about the ones that some auto clubs hold. I see only modenas and FR porsches, as well as some old 911s. but it just pisses me off that some ferrari, porsche and lambo owners use it for show than go.

Yeah, htay, I must agree. If I had an F430, i would be taking to the track every other day

Note to everyone on autospies, if you haven't it yet, like me spell it for you. This is a true and street legal sportcar, where many ethusiast can acually afford one.

If you are a Badge Whore, please get the Ferrari, Lambo or Porsche. Yeah like many of us can acutally go a Lambo and drop $50k or $100k down payment for a Lambor or Ferrari.

If I have $100 millions in a my checking account, and own a Lambo, or Ferrari, I still order one of this baby. Why??? because I'm NOT badge Whore.

Give it break German Fanboys, this cars smoke anything that had ever came out of German except the Bugatti. But yeah, look at how much the Bugatti Veyron cost, $1 million. The Nissan GT-R $70K plus. If you

Lets stop bashing German cars, for German cars can beat this thing, if you get the right one.

Its a great car, but you must consider apples to apples. Its going against a Porsche 911 Turbo, which is not the top of the line 911.

Please refrain from using exxagerations.

"If you are a Badge Whore, please get the Ferrari, Lambo or Porsche."

You don't buy those cars because you're a badge whore. You buy them because you want them. It's as simple as that.

correction: it gobble gobble :-)

By the way on the way home today, I saw the new Lexus LS460 in blue/black. Wow...it beauty was just absolutely stunning. And I also saw a Gallardo, F430 and Bentley this past week, it was just absolutely stunning

gobble...gobble..
now where is my turkey pot pie, LOL :)

Lexus, Happy Thanksgiving.

You must be poor like me, we're having Swanson Turkey TV dinners.

It's been a rough real estate market :(

EL34, tell me about it, I was raking it in up until next month... Had my last closing today that is scheduled up until the end of the year.

Not looking good for me being in the number (1500) :-(

It is incredible that some of the so called car enthusiasts here can praise so much this Nissan for doing nothing more than what an EVO FQ400 does already for less money. How can somebody compare this econoboxes with incredible cars like Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini is mind blowing. I thought most of the people here are actually car enthusiast but judging after the comments posted here by the Japanese car fanbois it doesn't look like that's the case. These people are are so clueless about cars that they make any dialog impossible.

Friends, the quality of a car is NOT determined by the number of horsepower. A Nissan 350z has 300 hp, a Mustang GT has 300 hp yet a 250 HP VW R32 is a better car than both the Nissan and Mustang put together. The same things goes for the GT-R which is nothing more than what 350Z is in its price range, a cheap, tuner type of car capable of offering the type of performance you crave mostly in high-school, the same type of performance the 17 years old craved when they got their Evo. I'm not implying that they are bad cars since they they have created their own segment, all I'm saying is that people should understand the difference between a cheaply built econobox created so it can satisfy the need for speed, and technology marvels like Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini created to satisfy the human need for , excellence, creative genius and ultimate driving experience. You want the biggest amount of horsepower for your money you get a Z06 or a GT-R, you want a dream car that offers the complete driving experience for $70K, you get a Porsche 911.

Why was my statement deboosted? I was only stating a fact about my current situation.

The styling is subjective but I've grown to like it. It definitely has street presence. I'm sure there's a lot of untapped potential in this beast. I love the z06 and love even more its potential. However, it would never be able to put the power to the ground as well as the GTR. Perhaps the C7 with the rumored AWD will be their answer to this issue...

This is definitely gonna change the landscape of the supercar segment. Competition is a great thing =)

we have been hearing about this car about 8-10 years, its comming to America. Now it is here. Why the Fuc* some of you people are complaining about it. if u don't like it, get over and go get something else

The only thing to complain about are the retarded comparisons made by less educated(at least when it comes to cars) members of this site between a car like the GT-R and ultimate sports cars like Porsche, Ferrari...Other than that congratulations to Nissan for creating the ultimate boy racer car.

I don't think that the premium will stop at $15K, especially in the car crazy western states, in 2000 Toyota dealers in Phoenix were getting $10K over sticker for the Sequoia. Here is a car that dealers were receiving 10 per month of, and you couldn't touch one for sticker for 18 months after the release.

$15K is a conservative estimate.

So why don't they just limit the number to 200? It would be really worth something! This is all hype for the year or so, then you should be able to to pick up this car at a discount to the sticker price. If you want one wait a year or so.

I think that you underestimate both the greed of auto dealers (especially those handcuffed by rules outlining how they are to handle the sales and service process, this stuff really pisses them off) and the motivation of the egomaniac to be the only guy with one of these cars. At a production of 1500 US units, there will be a certain "it" factor for this car.

but the reality is the person looking for the "IT" factor of buying a limited edition toyota is not the same as the average supercar buyer. and "THAT" is the sad truth. It may change someday.

With units available in the US limited to 1500, they(Nissan) would of had more credability if they sold it as an Infiniti, but a Nissan? Ferrari sells more units in the US! Exclusivity and Nissan don't go together.

well said

I can't wait till the highly praised Limited Edition Nissan Versa comes out for junior :)

this car will make BMW a joke.

43LE- Why are you in love with our friend EL34?
You know you look like an idiot child.

Nissan made a poor decision not making this Infiniti's halo car. Low production and high $$$ would go better with their luxury/sport brand. Not smart marketing in US market. $70K plus for a Nissan is probably a stretch. First year sales will likely make the 1500 units, but I bet it will tickle off after that.

Some of you say this lob lolly of an automobile made in Nissan can beat the mighty Porsche 911 Turbo around the ring, but you are wrong.

Wrong!

Wrong!

7:38 - Nissan GT-R, 480PS/1720kg (manufacturer claim)(Nissan 10/07)

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This 7:38 Nordschleife time is getting old. over 20km of track, 2 seconds or 20 seconds is not that big of a deal. 90-95% of the people who buys these cars will never use the full potential.

Besides, 911 Turbo is Nissan's target, that doesn't mean its better or worst, it just means that its there performance target. Get a life people, arguing over 2 seconds. It barely makes a difference in real life.

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Exactly. All that those numbers prove is that they are as fast as each other; the rest about the cars comes down to HOW they turn these exceptional times.

I thought auto companies were in business to sell cars. Still at a loss as to the unusual low number of vehichles destined for the U. S. 1500 units will be sold out in the first month. If the market can bear more units then it would serve Nissan to increase production to meet the demand.

The truth is that very few auto companies have the DNA, expertise, engineering prowess, manufacturing capabilities to design and produce a car like the GTR.
I would venture to state that BMW, Porsche, Honda, Ferrari besides Nissan have produced truly game changing high performance cars.

I would pay $90K-100K. As if the 911 Turbo wasn't enough of a bargain (faster than an LP640 or a 599 GTB for 1/3 the cost!), the GT-R measures up just as well in performance, and it will be incredible. Definitely worth it. I don't care about the badge, but the car.

Why not $130K like the Turbo? Well, it doesn't look quite as good, it's nowhere near as nice on the inside and you don't get the same owner's experience.

Otherwise, bring it on.

Note... for $100K, I'd probably get an R8 anyway (which I still might do--we'll see!), but that's what the GT-R is worth, and something tells me it won't sell for much less than that.

If the market bears 100K then Nissan should price it as such. Don't disappoint the potential buyers at 70K if Nissan knows that realistically each car will fetch 100K. This is deceptive marketing. 1500 buyers will be gouged by the dealers.

A lot of companies make fast cars. It is very difficult for me to see a buyer on the market for a 911 Turbo or a Maser stop by the local Nissan store.

Still, they will certainly sell the first thousand or so cars above MSRP. The resale value of these firsts will get hammered though. Can you imagine a used GT-R sold next to the used ex-rental Altima ?

I wouldn't expect a person looking for a Porsche 911 going to an Infiniti dealer either for this car.

The car is too damn ugly no matter what badge is on it.

Limited production, please!

This car will bomb.

It will sell out the first year and then it will be gone, thank goodness :)

Face it, this Nissan looks like the offspring of a garbage truck and tractor.

Not pretty :(

@EL34

Stop talking about the mercedes SLR because that's the biggest garbage truck around.

Does this car only come in dull silver?

Seems like every time a hot car comes out the dealers take advantage of it. After the initial demand wears off these cars can be bought at considerable discounts. I guess this is a way for the dealers to gouge the "gotta have it now" people. Prudent buyers should wait 1-2 years you will have a newer car with improvements and at a discount. Just look at the 350Z when it first came out.

People buy fast unnattractive BMW's every day. The GTR is just another car. The 70K price point is about right. I would never buy one but for anybody who wants one its not bad at all.
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For all of those who said the GTR is worth no more than $50,000, I don't think they would buy the GTR at any price.

I remember reading the official Japanese release and pricing of the car where it had stated the 10,000 mile brake changes was going to be an additional $10,000. Tune-ups were like $5,000 or something like that. Does anyone else have that original price sheets? Those are ridiculous charges.

I don't understand what people are thinking. You can't pay 80 thousand for a brand new skyline which has performance figures which dwarf those of its other similarly priced competitors from Europe?
Why can't people just get along and look at the big picture before commenting "Merkur look better than this toyota"... it just shows how ignorant and backwards you are, you can't even read nor can you recognize design if it hit you in the face at 300mph.

Don't forget that this is the first Skyline to be sold globally, and people have long been importing the Icon into the the States for prices exceeding those which many of you are saying is too much. People who have been waiting for this car to come to the states for SO long will buy it, and there will be a shortage of them very soon, like it or not.

As far as design goes, I'm not totally sure if I've fallen completely in love with it, nor have I fallen in love with the interior, but it's growing on me. When I first saw the concept I abhorred the GTR, now I'm starting to like it -- and contemplating buying one, especially in black :)
Whoever compared this to the FQ-400, that's also irritating, that car was limited to a run of 100 cars, limited to the UK....how is that fair to the rest of the world? So no, this concept has not been introduced to us yet.

Too much? Too little? Whatever it is, it's stirring up the automotive community, look at its hits compared to the rest of the topics spoken over, the last time I saw the number it was up to 167. Good publicity or not, this car is going to shake up the standards of what we think is acceptable as a 'fast car.'

I see things like, Infiniti should have released it as well... Please. That just makes you sound ignorant; The GTR is and should always be known as the NISSAN SKYLINE GTR. No matter what name they release it under. Infiniti was only CREATED because America didn't allow such a selection of imported vehicles in, so the Japanese companies had to make Lexus, Acura, and Infiniti, to appease legislations.

If they released the GTR under Infinti, all the enthusiasts who Actually appreciate and understand the GTR, the enthusiasts who recognize cars R32-34 as Legends, know that if it came as an infinti, it would have diminished the appreciation and image of the car.

If not, you'll have enthusiasts rebadging the car as a Nissan.

Ugly? Don't like it? Too bad..chances are, if you're on the highway, or hilly turns, or wherever you race, and you decide to pick a fight with this one.... you're going to lose. Not only is it fast in a straight line, it's fast in the twisties...and All of you can see its 7:38 nurburgring laptime if you don't believe me.

IMHO $90K for this car will be a bit much, as no Skyline has reached that price, then again, no skyline has ever been this fast from the factory...That's another point to remember, folks -- these are factory specs. Ive heard rumors that this thing will be hard to customize, as Nissan have

I would buy an AMG E63 anyday before considering this mess of a Datsun.

This car is as ugly as the Armada.

This real estate agent is a complete simpleton, someone kick him off. Either that or hes a 12 year old kid with a hard on for fat chicks.

So many fakes on the internet, how can you stop them from joining this site?

I love the car. Nissan completly underestimated the demand for this vehicle. This is going to cause abuses in the market price. In Japan they have already pre-ordered close to 2300 units. ( Less than 3 weeks ) I still think 1500 units for U.S. will be gone in 2 weeks. Volume/demand ratio is urealistic. I have to wonder if this volume number for the U.S. is artifically kept low. Auto makers ought to build cars in volume at least close to the demand, after all their purpose for existance is to make money.

Well. Nissan isn't building the GTR on one of there mass production lines. Instead, the GTR has its own dedicated line, which may not be as efficient as the other mass production lines. Besides, it's a super-sports car, and there aren't any mass produced ones out there.

wow alot of hatred in this thread, to me that means Nissan has definitely done something right here. As Ripper113 said, people were buying R33 and R34 GTRs from a company that imported them from Japan and they were paying close to 100k for those cars. I cannot imagine someone saying ~70K is too much for a car with an engine that is hand build in its entirety by a single engineer and a dual clutch tranny designed specifically for it. As for looks, the GTR was not designed to look trendy, it was designed to stand out and thats exactly what it does you might love it or hate it, but you will not be able to ignore it. This is exactly what Nissan was going for. Nissan will sell every copy that they offer here in the states, there is no doubt about it and some will pay far more than MSRP for them. Like it or not, this is a supercar and there is nothing short of a Z06 that will touch it in a straight line or the twisties for less than 100,000 and many in that price range will see the GTR's ugly rear end both in a straight line and around a track which is where this car was created to be. My only regret will be seeing this car at a dragstrip where it will still do quite well instead of on a racetrack or road course where it will be nearly untouchable.

Kudos to Nissan, if they hate you, then you have definitely done something right with the GTR. I cannot wait for my midlife crisis.......


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"wow alot of hatred in this thread, to me that means Nissan has definitely done something right here"

Is not hate ..is pity and no, Nissan didn't get anything right like usual. Kudos to them for trying though...

They should price it at 100K like a "super car" should. Stop the deception!

Who would buy a 100k econobox?

....good luck getting it at MSRP.

Either the dealer will rip you off themselves with outrageous markups or being rap3 by the people who actually got one and sell it on ebay.

We as buyers by paying excess above MSRP prepetuate the gouging behavior by the dealers.

The fact that this forum is filled with a bunch of ignorant S.O.Bes just crack me up every time I read their postings. They don't have to know about what GTR really is -in fact, they could care less about it. Just as long as it's Japanese, it will never be as good as its Teutonic counterparts.

Since this forum is filled with "ignorant S.O,Bes, this would include you also.

I really like the number 201.

In fact, my marketing plan for sellers has a 201 things I do to get their home sold.

And very soon I will buy a brand new Ferrari F430 Spyder and drive it at 201mph.

i would not pay more than a 911 S, but maybe the same...

I did stand next to this car for 10 minutes while it slowly moved in a 360 in front of me. It is by far the most eye catching mix of muscle car and modern tech I have seen lately. It looks easier than a Porsche as far as daily goes.

Except it isnt a Porsche, and Everyone (especially your wife) is a label whore.

At the end of the day, this car DOES NOT compete with the likes of Lambo, Porsche and Ferrari. From a performance point of view, yes...no one can deny that, the figures are there. However, status, respect and price wise. NEVER.

People when considering the likes of Lambo and Ferrari will indeed visit and test drive cars from both showrooms. They WILL NEVER go into a Nissan dealership for the GT-R. It tends to be younger, racer types with less money to spend, yet still want the performance.

Exactly! How can people believe that a boy racer car like the GT-R that has performance figures comparable with cars that cost a lot more actually matches them in driving experience too. Is like saying that a Dodge SRT8 is as good as an Audi S8 because they have comparable performance figures. Wake up people! You need a lot more than numbers to create a super-car.

Absolutely True!

You gotta have a German or Italian name and an insanely cost of money. And don't forget the cup holder to a be supercar.

And there is nothing wrong with Datsun. It has ton of racing history. Here's one.

"Datsun Roadsters were raced to ten National SCCA Championships over a 20 year period. The first of these Champions, Jean LePlant and Paul Jaremko who secured Datsun's first win in SCCA competition, than later again at the wheel of a 1500 and Bob Sharp who collected Nissan's first National Championship.."

Those who diss Datsun are no carfans. Good luck trying to see those million dollar homes.

I would pay for bus tickets to the Nissan dealership where i would steal it.

nice... then sell it to get back the cost of the bus ticket.

If you were going to risk going to prison over stealing a car, at least make it a worthwhile one.