Will The New Lexus LF-A Really Be As Great As We Anticipate?

The LF-A is never going to be successful

how do you know this? i am optomistic about it

When you in doubt about this machine, then listen to it...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShrOWznZbns

i just know. its very ugly. not american looking

uh duh. it's japanese.

i know

seems like you know every thing.

deboosted for a simple statment

Cant say that though but its evident that it will get beaten up if it is very pricey, and it cant hold much up to a gt-r if the acceleration is just under 4s , Lexus are trying too much to tune this car for max speed whereas Nissan tuned theirs for acceleration... only time can tell..Besides since this is their flagship car it will definitely be priced over $120,000...

"i just know. its very ugly. not american looking"

Huh? So now, with the new Chevy Malibu, American car design is the ruler that all other countries must measure up to?

Top secret my xxx. It's out for 5years already.

what

thats pointless

I find it one of the best looking car in the last few years.

The LF-A is very hot looking. the best looking out there.

The LF-A is very hot looking. the best looking out there.

so, do you like the way i post multiple times? becuase it appears you are coping

well "lol" is in my name.

um yeah. if i owned one, i would never sit in it. i went to a spyker/ferrari/maserati/fisker dealer and saw the D12, the suv. Classic guages, fast for a 4300 pound suv. the price was a little stiff though.

i heard at the dealer that they don't sell used spykers. they call it refurbished spykers. they completely take it apart and put it back together again, only the chassis stays

thats my favorite part. and the gauge cluster. do you usually go to L.A. show?

i like spykers

no cares what you like.

Production car has no camouflage=better aerodynamic, no test equipments = lighter, aluminum replaced by carbon fiber/fiber glass plastic = even lighter, which means it will a lot faster.

What do you expect from a Super Car weights less than 2,700lbs with a 550+hp, 9000rpm engine and a lighting fast shifting F1 sequential shift gearbox and drag coefficient smaller than Prius's 0.26?

highs: gonna be great at high speed, whatever it looks like
lows: should try to stick with a nice looking test mule; try to make little changes
vertict: the LF-A can be great car, or it can be as generic as a kia.

supra:

"Production car has no camouflage=better aerodynamic, no test equipments = lighter, aluminum replaced by carbon fiber/fiber glass plastic = even lighter, which means it will a lot faster."

prototype has no air conditioning, power windows/seats, sound system, nav system and a million other comfort and luxury features that add up to hundreds of pounds. prototype also doesn't need to meet emissions requirements. hmmm...

no camo? the car is gonna wiehg aton

fastonekiller: which car? the Zonda F or Lexus

the wieght

its 2300 pounds,

hes making that up. ill try to find the wieght

i hate all cars except m3 and landrovers

whoa! you hate all cars? what is your problem?

the m3 is nice and i love landrovers!

then why are you on autospies?

then why are you on autospies?

becuase i wanted to be apart of something.

and i like to spy before i buy

uh... you drive i toyota tercel wagon? i saw your photos

Is hating all cars hard?

you hate the corvette?

I'd rather be driving a Corvette.

;-)

yeah... a zr1

drive a zr1 into a junkyard? you must be a retart

they are giving the first one away to charity

I think that this car will be great.

I can somehow picture two versions of this car, a luxury version, more like an SLR type, and a pure/raw track and sporty version, to take on the likes of the GT-R, F430 Scuderia, and GT3 RS.

just like the 6 series eh?

something like that...

on what NEW information is this "story" based?

let us know when we have verification that the car will be produced, specs are released and a production-ready car is tested by an INDEPENDENT source.

until then, there's nothing to do but speculate!

i was talking about the car. not the contents of the story

tell me about it

It amazes me how much the lexus fan boys dismiss that which Lexus tries so hard to copy.

Not saying this is not a great car and not saying that Lexus does not make a good car, but just totally trashing the German makers makes no sense.

It is cool you have your favorite, but don't be jerks about it

I think everyone up here should wait for the official spec before making judgement on this Lexus LF-A. Almost everyone up here doubting the Nissan GT-R because it was big and only had 480hp.

And look at it actual test spec from Edmund.com The Nissan GT-R run the famous in 7:38s and do 0-60 in 3.3s or less.

I hope Lexus can back up it claim for this New Lexus LF-A. No matter what, this Lexus LF-A will be a Force to reckon with.

"this Lexus LF-A will be a Force to reckon with."

isn't that passing judgement? and what previous models has lexus produced that would lead us to believe they really understand performance cars?

hey, is this "flylow" under a new name?

we are talking US sales only, right?

yes thierry. US sales only. globally the 3-series outsells the IS by more than 12x.

this crazy i mean seriously how many posts can you create that are pure speculation about a car that isnt even out yet....and for that matter we are having muliple messages on this car each week, that and some other lexus...does lexus own this site or something come on...lol 10 messages of speculation on an unreleased car

Hey, I saw a couple of new Chevy Malibu's today and it's a pleasant looking car.

thats funny..coming from someone that drives a 3 series lol

"I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying." this punchline really needs to change pronto

got it

There's one thing all of us cannot deny and that is this Lexus looks an awful lot like the new Toyota Matrix.

;-)

EL34- its already 10pm and you haven't said a single funny thing yet. Come on Dude!
On another note- a very happy 2008 to all on this blog, even Keysersoze.

Personally I'm not that crazy about the front of the car, its basic. But I should say the most important thing in this segment is to have the right performance. As far as quality, no worries there it will definitly have the best quality, but I hope they do change the front there's realy nothing special about it, the back is unique to it though and I love it.

pacotacolol

"Or will it be more of a copy of the R8 or just less unique and futuristic"

Could u please elaborate? What makes u bring Audi R8 into this?

LF-A concept is already there and it's 100% original (and i saw nobody ever raising the question that it looks like anything let alone R8). And the production LF-A will look like it as it will be the production version of the concept.

u guys are just........

fastonekiller

"lets wait and see what the actual specs are of the production LF-A."

yeah that's good idea. but then stand by it and don't try to prove or disprove the info.

U say Pagani has 750 BHP and did this lap time. I can show you many other sports cars with 750BHP or more but are nowhere closer to the Pagani F Clubsport lap time.

So i repeat not believing the info and waiting for the official one is good idea but then stand by your decision. Don’t try to prove it or disprove it.

On other note, if this were a german car say R8 V10, i could see u and many other german fans believing this info and try their fullest to prove it unlike here where u r trying to disprove it.

Awesome job Lexus and bring it soon.

JUGNU

Please shut up, you're talking absolute rubbish.

+1 @ Heyhuub

haha... I needed a good laughter before lunch...

whats the answer.

monin?

hi david989.

the new jaguar xf r is awesome

thats a little random.

The Jag XF is gonna be the daddy of all luxury cars!

@ TheSailor

+3 for that concluding comment.

Acura NSX anyone?

Its simple. Folks do not go to Japan to spend over $100,000 on A car. They go to Europe or Italy.

The sad part is that even though the Acura NSX wasn't successful (in sales) the NSX did show Ferrari and lamborghini that a Super car doesn't have to be demanding to drive. Even though the Lexus will probably fail, The Lexus will probably show the other makes a thing or two about exotic cars.

the NSX is going to be the rival to the LF-A if it become a production car.

yeah. wow. you finally said something worthwhile!

congrats on your new feat.

The LF-A is very good car. its going to do well

Zonda F what? The car that was claimed 210mph top speed but never could reach 200mph and costs what 1M dollar?

I don't think the weight value of 2900lbs is correct. It may be close but, I don't think it's 2900lbs. And obviously, the time is most likely correct since, it's been reported everywhere.

But, assuming it weighs 2900lbs with 550hp. Then to compare it with a Zonda, your best bet would be to look at the suspension layouts of both along with gearing and transmission set-up. And I don't mean the suspension/tranny *type*, I mean the specific *technical numbers* that go with all the suspension components and transmission. Another part to getting good *numbers* around the track is to have a good suspension and transmission. Even though it uses a DSG tranny, there still can be some modifications that Lexus might have made to get an advantage. This might explain the reported time, IF assuming the weight is 2900lbs!

But at this point, it is very hard to deduce anything concrete since we don't have any definite data on the weight/suspension set-up/tranny set-up.

Another thing I forgot to add to the list was the Center of Gravity and weight distribution. All these factors matter a lot for getting sweet numbers around the track, not just the weight, HP, and how many cylinders it has.

it is accually 2900 pounds i checked for myself

I think fastonekiller is not asking for the exact numbers, I think he just wants the source of the numbers.

Pacotacolol... where did you get that number?

ok.

it is from www.eGMcartech.com

i c. thanks.

Happy New Year!

nope. poeple submit article from there occationally

actually, it seemed like there were many fruitful conversation that did not bash any cars or origin of cars. lets keep it that way...

will the new lf-a go by CAFE reg.?

i don't know the epa

mpg*

prolly average supercar economy... 9-10 mpg

haha. probably. but it depends

how does it depend?

it might be a hybrid

you are joking right?

does this matter? who cares?

to enviromentalists it matters

The car is still a prototype and you are wondering about MPG? and CAFE regulations?

Hello Lexus fans. This is my first post of many to come and I'm surprised at the ignorance of the German Car Fans. They are still in denial that the game has changed in the automotive industry and the Germans are barely hanging on. The Germans have consistantly throughout the years produced good looking, fast, unreliable cars. The reason that they move as many cars as they do is because most consumers that drive there cars lease them because of the warranty's and dump the cars after the lease is up. Not many of these driver convert to buyers once the lease is up because many of the BMW'S & MCB become a pile of Sh.. after so many years. They start having system failures in so many areas that they end up sitting on high end car lots all over the us.

Now here one for you German car fans. Count the number of original generation one LS400's still on the road from 1990 and the count the number of BMW's & MCB's still on the road from the same year. If any of you are as smart as you appear to be with your sorry a.. comments, you'll come to the conclusion that you won't find hardly any German cars produced the year that Lexus was born any where on the road today and there's a reason
why. The Germans build beautiful pieces of sh.. that are unperfected and aren't worth sh.. after the lease is up to own. Please refer to consumer reports year after year since Lexus was conceived and again you'll see the evidence of what I'm saying in black and white.

The said thing for all of you German car fans is the fact that the Germans are losing at there own game and its happening right before your eyes as well as their's and there's nothing any of you can do about it. It's time for you to realize that the game for the Germans is over. Just like in the seventies when the Japanese were producing little cheap cars and everyone criticized them saying that they would last. Well who's laughing now? The American car companies are hurtinh like hell nad there's no relief in sight. And The Germans know that its just a matter of time before they to fall to the superior reliability of the Japanese.

The GTR was a huge wake up call for the Germans. The ISF is a great 1st step for Lexus into the performance car arena. The LFA will literally kick the sh.. out of the Germans best so called performance cars and this to is just the first step. The greatest thing about what the Japanese are doing is that you'll receive a performance car that will spend more time on the road rather than being at the deal all of the time correcting the all of the problems engineered into the superior German performance cars. Did you understand that point german car fans, I said problems engineered into those superior German cars.

You can criticize the look of car produced by Lexus and other Japanese car companies but I can tell you this. The Japanese are going to kick the sh.. out of the Germans in all aspects of car design, performance, quality and reliability in the future. You guys are hang

This might be the worst alias ever.

Thats quite funny because last time I checked, under developed countries use old MBs and BMWs, and trust me you wont find a single old Lexus.

If the Germans are so unreliable, how come most of the electronics used today, from cars to dishwashers, come from Bosh? Also, German cars tend to have more aesthetic value and tend to become "classic" after a time. Who ever heard of a classic Japanese car? Maybe the 280Z as a stretch?