Look Out Hybrids! BMW To Bring Diesel Line Up To US in Late 2008!

Look Out Hybrids! BMW To Bring Diesel Line Up To US in Late 2008!
Entering a new era in the company’s mission to deliver ultimate driving machines that combine superior performance with exemplary fuel economy, the BMW Group will debut two vehicle models equipped with the BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance at the 2008 North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit – the X5 xDrive35d and the 335d. 
Successfully meeting the strict exhaust emissions requirements of the North American automobile market, BMW Advanced Diesel – slated to hit US roadways in late 2008 – will be available in all 50 states. The wide availability of these vehicles marks a significant milestone in the BMW EfficientDynamics strategy, which seeks to offer customers in automobile markets around the world maximum driving pleasure with minimum fuel consumption and emissions.
BMW Advanced Diesel technology is being introduced into the US market in the form of the 3.0-liter inline-six featuring Variable Twin Turbo Technology – an engine widely acknowledged as the unchallenged benchmark for sporting performance, motoring refinement and superior efficiency in other markets around the world. At the 2008 NAIAS, BMW is presenting this 265-hp high-performance diesel engine in both the BMW X5 xDrive35d and the BMW 335d. To ensure full compliance with the demanding emission standards in California and other US states, BMW uses SCR technology to reduce nitricoxides (NOX), enabling nationwide introduction of BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance as a 50-state model (BIN5).


Leading the way:

BMW diesel competence for the US.
The history of BMW diesel engines began in 1983 when the BMW 524td was introduced as the fastest diesel in the world. From that starting point, BMW has spent 25 years continuously developing diesel technology.  Today’s BMW Diesels are characterized by dramatically improved power and performance, fuel consumption and emissions levels – reflecting the principle of BMW EfficientDynamics in every respect.
Through their superior motoring refinement alone, BMW diesel engines have helped to significantly eliminate any reservations regarding the acoustic properties of a diesel engine. Indeed, great demand for BMW diesel engines has helped BMW achieve increased market share not just in Europe, but in regions across the world. Today no less than 67 percent of all new BMWs delivered to customers in Europe are powered by a diesel engine.
While diesel engines of today represent an impressive standard for fuel efficiency and emissions on the whole, BMW Advanced Diesel engines take this a step further, setting the standard for torque and pulling power that could never be achieved by a similar displacement gasoline engine – while consuming 25 percent less fuel on average than an equally powerful gasoline engine.

New generation of diesel technology:
Maximum dynamism, minimum emissions.
Maximum power, supreme efficiency: The first BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance is particularly well-suited to combine the driving dynamics and motoring refinement of a premium automobile with the most current and demanding standards for preserving resources and reducing emissions. Featuring exceptional power and torque, the 3.0 liter inline-six diesel is one of the most fuel-efficient and economical engines in its class.

Applying Variable Twin Turbo Technology, a small turbocharger first cuts in at low engine speeds. Thanks to its low inertia, this turbocharger develops boost (and extra power) in response to even the smallest movement to the gas pedal and without the slightest delay. As engine speed increases, the second, larger turbocharger cuts in, developing maximum torque of 425 lb-ft at just 1,750 rpm. Interaction of the two turbochargers is controlled by the particularly efficient, high-performance electronic engine control unit.

In addition to the above Variable Twin Turbo Technology, new technical highlights of BMW Advanced Diesel – presented for the first time in 2007 – include an aluminum crankcase and third-generation common-rail direct fuel injection. Featuring precision-quality precise piezo-injectors to deliver the precise dosage of fuel into the combustion chambers with the smallest volume of pre-injection, the third generation system ensures a particularly clean injection process with optimized fuel consumption, emissions figures and running smoothness.

Given all of these qualities, BMW’s 3.0-liter diesel with Variable Twin Turbo has won the prestigious International Engine of the Year Award multiple times – more than any other prize or acknowledgement. The engine is featured in a large number of models in Europe and is now expanding its global story of success as the BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance.
At the 2008 NAIAS, the BMW 335d featuring Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance for maximum output of 265 hp and peak torque of 425 lb-ft. will provide a clear and convincing demonstration of these qualities. On the road, this means acceleration from 0–62 mph in 6.2 seconds and average fuel economy of 23/33 mpg (city/highway, provisional data).
The BMW X5 xDrive35d, will also debut in Detroit.  Like the 335d, the X5 xDrive35d offers sporting character through BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance, while standing out as a high-torque Sports Activity Vehicle with excellent qualities for long-distance motoring. The BMW X5 xDrive35d accelerates from 0–62 mph in just 7.2 seconds and offers average fuel economy of at least 19/25 mpg (city/highway, provisional data).
Non-partisan study in the USA:

BMW ranks No 1 in the reduction of CO2 emissions.
The introduction of Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance in the US continues the global BMW EfficientDynamics development strategy of reducing both fuel consumption and exhaust emissions. Applying this strategy, the vehicles offered by BMW stand out worldwide by combining a higher standard of driving dynamics with a significant reduction in both fuel consumption and emissions.

The new BMW 128i Coupe now being introduced in the US, for example, is powered by the latest and, accordingly, most efficient version of BMW’s inline-six cylinder engine featuring VALVETRONIC technology. Apart from the enhanced version of this fully variable valve management, this engine also features a composite magnesium/aluminum crankcase and an electric coolant pump, operating only on demand and to the level required. In the BMW 128i Coupe, this engine is combined with six-speed automatic transmission of the latest generation, again using innovative technology to ensure enhanced fuel economy, minimum emissions and maximum driving pleasure. Innovations allowing for greater efficiency are also being systematically introduced into all models sold by BMW in the US. Pursuing this strategy, BMW has indeed made significant progress in recent years in reducing average fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, the success of these efforts being confirmed only recently in the latest issue of the US Environmental Defense Report. According to the study, BMW reduced the CO2 emissions of its car fleet by 12.3 percent from 1990 through 2005 (its closest competitor achieved a 3 percent reduction in CO2 emissions), while sales in the USA increased four-fold in the same period.

This independent, non-partisan study of the Vehicle Fleet Carbon Burden of all vehicles operating in the United States between 1990 and 2005 concluded that BMW has contributed far more than all other manufacturers in reducing fuel consumption and CO2 emissions and makes specific reference to the positive results of BMW EfficientDynamics.
Now, introducing Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance as part of BMW EfficientDynamics, BMW seeks to continue the progress described in the Environmental Defense Report well into the future, with the same intensity and impact.

Most advanced exhaust gas management:

SCR catalyst with AdBlue injection.

To optimize emission management, Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance incorporates an oxidation catalyst placed just downstream of the exhaust manifold, a diesel particulates filter housed in the same unit and an SCR catalyst with the urea injection. In addition to filtering out even the smallest particles from the flow of exhaust gases, this combination ensures effective reduction of nitric oxides (NOX) by way of a chemical reaction within the exhaust system initiated by the injection of a small dose of urea referred to as AdBlue. The ammonia (NH3) generated in this process within the SCR catalyst subsequently converts the nitric oxides (NO and, respectively, NO2) in the exhaust gas into environmentally compatible nitrogen (N2) and vapor (H2O).

AdBlue technology by BMW:
Optimized emissions without requiring additional maintenance.
To introduce AdBlue technology into the car, BMW has developed a two-tank system ensuring convenient use of this new technology with all the benefits and ease required by the customer. The amount of AdBlue required in each case is injected from the active tank (approximately 1.6 gallons in volume) by means of a dosage pump. And since the urea solution would freeze at a temperature of 12.2oF, this active tank, as well as the dosage pipes, are heated.
The active tank is connected to a second reservoir, referred to as the passive tank. With its additional capacity of approximately 4.5 gallons, this passive tank offers a plentiful supply of the urea solution. The average range provided with this supply capacity is indeed sufficient to have the tank system replenished only when the driver needs to change the engine oil. Hence, the large amount of AdBlue stored in the reservoir enables the customer to enjoy continuous driving, without having to change his/her service intervals. The driver therefore benefits from the advantages of this environmentally friendly emission technology throughout the entire running life of the car, without any additional service or visits to the workshop. Since all BMWs sold in the US benefit from The BMW Maintenance Program, the refilling of the AdBlue tanks will be a no-charge service for 4 years or 50,000 miles.

AdBlue from the active tank is delivered to the dosing valve and atomize into the exhaust system. Consistent distribution of AdBlue within the flow of exhaust is ensured by the SCR mixer. The ammonia generated in the hot exhaust flow subsequently acts as a reduction agent in the SCR catalyst and converts environmentally harmful nitric oxides into nitrogen and water vapor in a process referred to as a selective catalytic reaction (SCR). This process gives the special SCR catalyst its name.

The control of the SCR system is masterminded by BMW’s powerful engine management computer. A nitric oxide sensor downstream of the SCR catalyst provides feedback on the concentration of NOX in the exhaust emissions.

Due to packaging limitations in certain vehicles, the position and location of the AdBlue tank may be varied from one vehicle model to the other. In the BMW 335d, the active and passive tank are at the rear end of the car, while in the BMW X5 xDrive35d, the active tank is housed in the front right section of the engine compartment, and the passive tank is under-floor next to the transmission.

BMW’s competence in diesel technology:

A story of success since 1983.

The performance and fuel economy offered by new BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance is a further example of the exceptional potential this engine concept has to offer. In recent years BMW has worked more thoroughly and consistently than any other manufacturer worldwide to promote and further the development of its EfficientDynamics strategy.  As a result, BMW has consistently enhanced the benefits and attractiveness of diesel technology, increasing engine output (performance), while reducing fuel consumption and emissions.

Through their unique motoring refinement and smoothness – a feature which was thought to be impossible with a diesel engine – BMW’s diesel engines stand out among the competition, setting the industry standard for diesel engine technology today.

The story of success of BMW’s diesel engines is characterized by numerous milestones in technical development, dating back to 1983. Back then BMW presented the first inline-six diesel in the history of the company, with maximum output of 85 kW/115 hp and peak torque of 210 Newton-metres/155 lb-ft.

The BMW 524td that featured this engine was acknowledged as the fastest diesel of its time and was the last BMW diesel model to be sold in the US.

In the years to come BMW’s engine development specialists enhanced a wide range of innovations, ensuring their alignment with series production standards, increasing power and performance, reducing fuel consumption and emissions in the process. In 1987, for example, BMW introduced DDE Digital Diesel Electronics followed three years later by BMW’s first diesel engine with an oxidation catalyst.

BMW diesel engines:

Making a unique contribution to The Ultimate Driving Machine.

Right from the start BMW’s engine development specialists recognized the potential of the diesel in enhancing motoring efficiency. They focused on the unique performance characteristics offered by the diesel in order to provide a new concept of The Ultimate Driving Machine. Above all, the development specialists used the performance of the diesel engine to develop superior torque from low engine speeds.

As a result, the BMW diesel was soon able to offer its unique sporting character – in everyday driving situations, as well as on the race track.  Indeed, it was this performance and reliability which made a BMW 320d the superior winner of the 24 Hours of Nürburgring as early as in 1998.

In the same year BMW presented its first diesel engine with direct fuel injection ensuring even greater spontaneity in the development of power. In the process, the precise dosage of fuel helped to reduce fuel consumption and optimize combustion in the interest of even greater smoothness and refinement. Ultimately, given these qualities, the BMW diesel was appropriately prepared for the luxury performance class, with the first V8 diesel engine featuring direct fuel injection, which made its debut in the BMW 7 Series luxury sedan in 1999.

Milestones in progress:
Common-rail direct fuel injection, Variable Twin Turbo Technology, maintenance-free diesel particulates filter, BluePerformance.

In the years that followed, BMW made significant – perhaps revolutionary – progress in the areas of injection technology and diesel turbocharging: As early as 2001, the second generation of common-rail fuel injection pumped fuel into the combustion chambers at a pressure of up to 1,600 bar. In 2004, the BMW 535d became the first car to feature an inline-six diesel with Variable Twin Turbo Technology.

BMW also introduced the second generation of the diesel particulates filter now featured as standard in all of the diesel models from Germany’s premium manufacturer. The exhaust gas-cleaning unit is positioned directly on the exhaust manifold itself in order to ensure optimum efficiency very quickly and smoothly. The particulates filter does not require any maintenance and regenerates itself by incinerating the diesel particles. This filtering function is performed at all engine speeds and under all loads, without any reduction of engine power or increase in fuel consumption.

BMW’s current range comprises no less than seven diesel engines, three four-cylinder models, a six-cylinder model and a V8. Both the six- and four-cylinder engines have aluminum crankcases helping to significantly reduce the weight of these engines. A traditional handicap of the diesel engine, which adds weight due to the use of a cast iron crankcase (a much heavier material than aluminium) has nearly been phased out completely. The reduction of weight enhances the car’s agility and, as a result, the sporting character of BMW’s diesel models.

Comparing the first six-cylinder BMW diesels from 1983 with the most powerful diesel engines of today, one can easily appreciate the progress made.  Consider the following facts and figures:

Maximum output of the inline-six engine is up 135 percent, maximum torque is up an even more impressive 170 percent.  And despite this immense increase in power and muscle, average fuel consumption of the 3.0-liter engine featuring Variable Twin Turbo Technology is 20 percent lower than diesel engines of 1983.  At the same time, exhaust emissions have been reduced dramatically, thanks to several new technologies.  Indeed, a BMW diesel in the 2008 model year generates only 1 percent of the particulate emissions originally contained in the exhaust gas of a 1983 diesel model.

The world’s most sporting inline-six diesel.

Ready for the USA.

Despite these impressive facts and figures, BMW is continuing to upgrade the diesel engine to an even higher standard, and BMW Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance marks the next stage of development. This innovative technology now also fulfills US market demands in terms of power, performance, running smoothness, efficiency and emission limits.
Both the 335d and the X5 xDrive35d will be launched in all 50 US states in the fall of 2008.  Pricing will be announced closer to launch time.



w209w114w209w114 - 1/2/2008 10:38:53 AM
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Probably not much different than a gasoline powered engine with all the advancements in diesel. Just listen to the latest Mercedes-Benz Diesels.


atomicbriatomicbri - 1/2/2008 11:04:24 AM
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Heard them in Europe and there really is no difference in the sound between gas and the diesels.


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 1/2/2008 4:58:54 PM
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There is always somebody here with some really stupid ideas that they state as a fact.

When it comes to Diesel Engines for Passenger Cars and SUVs NOBODY and i mean NOBODY can compete with the 3 German Manufacturers.

And amongst the 3, the top 2 are AUDI and BMW with MB following closely, the lexus 220d engine is a very good attempt but not up to the quality and refinement of the G3.

What i have just told you is based on Performance and Efficiency FACTS, Refinement Measurements and On Road Feel, not some deluded fantasy.


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 1/2/2008 7:25:23 PM
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I dont know where you are from mr Hartman but if you go and look up the Diesel Engines available in the UK or Europe from the 3 Manufacturers in question, you will notice consistent Superiority in the BMW and AUDI Diesels across the range, MB is only recently upgrading their diesel offerings hence my " Following Closely" comment.

I try to do my research before commenting, you should try the same.

www.audi.co.uk
www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk
www.bmw.co.uk

Research Time

Awards are handed out by anybody, even Financial Times, so they are wortless unless it is from a Reputable Awarding Body, that is not to say the 320cdi engine is not very good. I just dont use no of awards as a measure for deciding what constitutes a great engine.


JWalkerLegrandeJWalkerLegrande - 1/3/2008 8:41:07 AM
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The modern common rail diesel was launched by FIAT in 1989... they were followed by PSA Peugeot-Citroen in 1998 with the HDI range... until very lately, the VW group relied on an injection technology that was... khmm, outdated/overengineered. BMW joined the group with the bi-turbo common rail in 2004, Daimler Benz quietly following suit nowhere near the top performers Renault (first serial 2-litre diesel engine with 175 bhp).

The Toyota/Lexus 2.2 engine is on par with the 2.2 liter Honda diesel launching as we speak, almost identical numbers. The best Europeans are approx. 3 years ahead of this engine today (injection, applied turbocharging, performance and efficiency), the comparison makes no sense.

The "most fun to drive" diesel undoubtedly belongs to BMW, though: the 535d is giving you the power of a locomotive. Literally.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 1/2/2008 12:11:03 PM
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In-line configuration or horizontally opposed configuration is the only proper way to go with a six-cylinder engine to achieve optimum balance. The worst six-cylinder engines are those inherently out of balance 90-degree V6 engines that some manufacturers still produce so they can share tooling with that used to make 90-degree V8 engines.


pacotacololpacotacolol - 1/2/2008 9:29:42 AM
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Diesel's probably be like a hybrid to BMW.


AudiphileAudiphile - 1/2/2008 9:56:45 AM
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This is the beginning of the end of gas/electric hybrid powertrains having a monopoly on eco-friendly energy. Audi and BMW will both be offering diesel engines in the U.S. in 2008, Mercedes-Benz already has a small presence with their E320 BlueTec, and I think VW will be offering diesels in their 2009 model year. In addition to the thermal efficiency that diesel engines bring to the table, they will put an end to the insufferable self-righteousness exhibited by some tree-hugging Prius owners.


AnthonyAnthony - 1/2/2008 10:35:44 AM
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Despite the never-ending wars that the automotive media makes over "diesels vs. hybrids," the two wont be crossing paths in the minds of the "tree-hugging self-righteous Prius owners." People who are truly behind hybrids know that they are first and foremost about lower emissions, which diesels only achieve with special filters and chemical additives. Good luck to all these cars on passing state emissions regulations.

In any regard, this U.S. diesel push by European automakers will usher in a new breed of automotive snobbery: the hostile, anti-Prius, diesel German car owners. Welcome to the "self-righteous" club.


johannasjohannas - 1/2/2008 10:53:27 AM
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I can feel the animosity from all the way over here, bro.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/2/2008 12:50:45 PM
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well anthony, you are mistaken about emissions.

the emissions of the diesel versions of the S, 7 and A8 are all superior to the LS600...not to mention they achieve vastly superior MPG.


AnthonyAnthony - 1/2/2008 12:59:11 PM
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Well enthusiast, the LS600 was not aimed at those vehicles as I know we are all aware of, but go ahead and start your field-day of predictable Lexus/hybrid-bashing and "self-righteous" justifications.


AudiphileAudiphile - 1/2/2008 1:08:02 PM
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<sigh> Anthony, you seem to have overlooked one word in my blog. I said that SOME, not all, Prius owners were insufferably self-righteous.

By the way, I have driven a Prius. Nice little car, but I'm too tall to fit in it comfortably.


RupertRupert - 1/2/2008 5:38:17 PM
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Those are preliminary numbers - they're not official.
And on the highway I'd expect more like 35+ mpg on the highway from the 335d. They are conservative figures.


chewychewy - 1/2/2008 6:17:36 PM
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NO

335i is 17/26

X5 3.0si is 15/21




atomicbriatomicbri - 1/2/2008 11:13:13 AM
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This is great news. To all those doubters or naysayers, try it out before you judge them. I sampled 2 of these diesel cars while in Germany and let me tell you, they are not your father's diesels. They were so smooth and quiet and really no smell coming from them. And it actually feels faster (some of them may be faster) than their Gas powered counterparts with all that torque. I think the best thing would be a hybrid/diesel.... but for now I would take a diesel over a hybrid any day. People may say their hybrid may pollute less, but in actuality the hybrids creation (making of the batteries etc.) causes more pollution than the production of a diesel powered car. ( http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~coreyp/hybridenvimp.html )


bimmerbimmer - 1/2/2008 12:10:11 PM
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I think it was already demonstrated that an US hybrid is actualy poluting more than a latest EU diesel engine.


johannasjohannas - 1/2/2008 4:21:07 PM
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MT,

Don't just repeat the hype. Live the hype!


mini22mini22 - 1/2/2008 11:59:22 AM
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I think in a shorter period of time the US population will embrace diesels. All people will need to do is drive the cars. After that any preconception will burn away. I think you are going to see hybrid diesels before long.Also economy cars like the Mini,Civic,Corolla will all be available with diesels before long. I would also think that Smart will be offering it as well. It will not be long before an economy car will get 80mpg on the highway.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/2/2008 12:46:34 PM
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hooray!

the 335d is an amazing car. so glad they'll be bringing it here!


Htay7500Htay7500 - 1/2/2008 2:24:35 PM
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like....?


atomicbriatomicbri - 1/2/2008 3:35:45 PM
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Totally agree Sailor.... it amazes me the lack of research people do when choosing to be "Green"!


Htay7500Htay7500 - 1/2/2008 5:01:20 PM
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MichaelTaylor, thesailor just provided info that you need to catch up on from that rock you've been living under.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/2/2008 7:24:13 PM
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"Diesel's wont really catch on in the US, I think."

why? americans are much more open to change than other countries.


RupertRupert - 1/2/2008 5:45:35 PM
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Isuzu make noisy pick-up truck engines!!
They sell an Isuzu pick-up with a diesel, and it sucks!!


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 1/3/2008 9:13:29 PM
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Not to mention the new 123d engine which the other 2 manufacturers have no answer for.


atomicbriatomicbri - 1/2/2008 3:38:50 PM
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Exactly MidEngine! Like I said earlier, it amazes me how people that want to be truly green do not do research! I hope BMW and VW offer diesels on a variety of models as they do in Europe. Would love a Tiguan Diesel or a Rabbit Diesel to haul crap in and get good mileage! Maybe even a X3 Diesel!


Htay7500Htay7500 - 1/2/2008 5:48:19 PM
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"At the 2008 NAIAS, the BMW 335d featuring Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance for maximum output of 265 hp and peak torque of 425 lb-ft. will provide a clear and convincing demonstration of these qualities. On the road, this means acceleration from 0–62 mph in 6.2 seconds and average fuel economy of 23/33 mpg (city/highway, provisional data)."
I hope I see that in the DC auto show.



huntrhuntr - 1/2/2008 7:39:31 PM
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I drove a diesel five series in California earlier this year and it was amazing,you could barely tell it was a diesel, most people would never even know they were in a diesel car it was so quiet, it had instant torque it did not matter where the rpm was at, it just pulled when you stepped on the accelerator. It was a very impressive car!! Just so I do not get bashed, the car was shipped over by BMW for a training course I was taking in California, we got to drive almost every model BMW makes on several courses (cones) they had set up. This was one of the most fun training classes I had ever been to. Also Isuzu does make a great diesel, but they are not quite as advanced as thier German counterparts, but the Duramax is a great diesel engine and before the Duramax, Isuzu already had a good reputation as a Diesel builder. I hope all of you had a Happy and Safe New Years!!


bmwfan1513bmwfan1513 - 1/2/2008 9:09:15 PM
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Great. The BMW deisels are nice cars. They have better mpg and great performance.


investor27investor27 - 1/2/2008 9:55:40 PM
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26/33 mpg doesn't strike me as a major advantage between diesel and gasoline/petrol. BMW mentioned in the release info that they have four 4-cylinder diesel engines. Why don't they just bring the 123D over, because that one is supposed to have better mpg.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/3/2008 12:04:35 AM
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"last century's technology"

hmmm...a gas engine attached to a battery. one of those technologies is 120 years old, the other is about 80 years old.




BillBill - 1/3/2008 5:09:39 AM
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Huu76,

Ferdinand Porsche basically created the world's first "hybrid" at the turn of the century. Do you know what that means?


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/5/2008 12:28:00 PM
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that's because all BMWs are performance-oriented. especially relative to their competitors.

and of course torque is mentioned multiple times. BMW is CONSISTENT in its focus on performance. now their simply offering performance plus improved gas mileage.


pdxgreasepdxgrease - 1/3/2008 12:19:15 AM
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Umm... If you go to bmw.co.uk you can find mileage numbers and power numbers.

Everything I have always heard about this engine puts it at 286hp.

Also the 3 series after converting from imperial MPG is rated at 26 mpg urban / 44 mpg extra urban and 35mpg combined.

Why would they issue a press release with such a large discrepancy? Seriously just go to the bmw Uk site and see for yourself.


RupertRupert - 1/3/2008 6:53:31 AM
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The emissions stuff saps a bit of power and European hp (PS) is slightly different to American bhp.


investor27investor27 - 1/3/2008 1:30:06 AM
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The gallons in the UK are larger than the US gallons, so there is one part where the "discrepancy" comes from.


pdxgreasepdxgrease - 1/3/2008 4:26:25 AM
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um no i did the conversion already.


BillBill - 1/3/2008 5:12:24 AM
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During my last trip to Germany, I was able to rent to a BMW 118d (current body style). The mileage was incredible, but this, being a lower end model didn't exactly have the refinement and engine response I was hoping it would have.

Still, it was a base model. I suspect that a 325d and 330d etc. are going to on a whole other level.


OblivObliv - 1/3/2008 1:24:58 PM
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Bring on the diesels, please! I cant stand this hybrid nonsense any longer.


BMWMBMWM - 1/4/2008 8:02:54 PM
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Does anyone know if the 535d is also going to be coming out in 2008 in the US?


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/4/2008 10:37:11 PM
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I have heard that it would be one of the first to come, but no official statements.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/4/2008 10:37:27 PM
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I love diesels!


gregsfcgregsfc - 1/6/2008 6:29:43 PM
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In three different post above, it has been stated that hybrids are inherently better for the environment, but this doesn't jive with the facts.

There is not a single hybrid sold in America that can accept a renewable fuel blend above 10% (E10), so a hybrid will emit close to what the EPA estimates and no better.

Alternatively, ALL DIESELS can accept 100% biodiesel and/or 100% renewable diesel fuels which are estimated to reduce all harmful substances from 50-100 percent. In fact, just by putting in B20 (20% biodiesel) in the tank, a diesel driver can further reduce CO2 output (from a life cycle basis) by 15.6%; HCs--12%; CO--16%; PM--9%; and SO2--20% (source: DoE). B100 will reduce CO2 output as a life cycle basis by 78% and will further reduce other harmful substances making a diesel running B100 much cleaner than any hybrid currently on the market with the added benefit of the diesel running petroleum-fuel free.

And, with a diesel, you can get that hybrid-like fuel economy with the added ability to use any blend of renewable, clean fuel without sacrificing fuel economy, without the need for engine modification, and without paying a premium in the price for fuel, not to mention all the benefits biodiesel has over ethanol.


1hybrid11hybrid1 - 1/19/2008 10:28:24 AM
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The hybrid vs. diesel debate will go on for years, and unfortunately the greener vehicles may not come out ahead. Hybrid simply sounds cleaner...while diesel still has a lot of negative connotations. Perception is reality. Not sure how the hybrid-diesels will do, but they may be the best of both worlds...and if they are simply viewed as hybrids, that might make them more attractive. Unlike the majority of reader on Autospies, most people don't know the facts, they won't take time to learn them, and they aren't open to listening.


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