Humiliation: Toyota Supra vs. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640

Modified vs. Stock.

Well heck, I'll just put 5000HP in a Lambo!

And blast that jellybean.

"yet they get all defensive and "ofended" when a 70K car beats a 250K car, LOL! Stupid Americans, can't even pay for their own roof.. LOL! F-you"

hmmm, who's calling who stupid. that supra is not anything close to a $70 production car. it's specially-built one off that FAR OUTPERFORMS the production version. do you seriouly think the stock supra makes 1200hp?

GoObama08, if Obama becomes President you better be prepared for $5.00 dollar a gallon regular gas within a year.

GoObama08, you will never get free healthcare.

You will pay for it out of your paycheck.

And if you get a serious illness you will be on a waiting list so long you'll dead long before you ever get the treatment.

Think it thru!

does the supra have a warranty?

Didnt know superchargers had blow off valves

Most DEFINITELY!

not a proper comparison as EL34 mentioned. BS article.

EL34's wife was not riding shot gun, the Lambo could have easily shaved off 600lbs and a victory....LMAO!!!

so the Supra drives faster, big deal. The Lamborghini drops panties faster, and I'd take one over any Supra all day every day and twice on Sunday.

I'd take the Lambo 15 times on a monday after a cold shower.

is that what it takes for u 2 get laid?? lol

looks like youre the lame one here

Wow, you have a lot of bottled-up negativity, don't you? I guess all the trips to the mechanic and service department can do that to people sometimes...? HAHA

Wow, looks like somebody drifted from the OT in Sherdog...

Phail.

carlover 99 ... what is the point of the article? 1200 hp with most likely nitrous vs a 600hp lambo. Since we are on a ridiculous subject why dont we take a Hayabusa and race it against a Harley v-rod ... ridiculous

I'm thinking that what is being demonstrated here is...

One can take a 15 year old Toyota Supra, invest about 10 to 15k in performance mods, bringing the grand total to around 30k, and Absolutely Spank a 350k Lamborghini Murcielago.

Sure, we can argue about Tuner vs Stock, etc. but...

The Fact Is - the Lamborghini Got Beat, and in a Race - Nothing Else Matters!

Exactly, Rosko.

Nobody in the league of wealth will pretty much give a second glance at the Supra. It's just not in this class, no matter how good it performs (tuned or not).

Sometimes there's just no reasoning with some of you...

No one ever said that someone, "shopping for a $300K exotic" was considering a 15 year old Supra as a cross-shopping alternative... If this Supra driver could actually afford a Lamborghini Murcielago, he'd surely not even look near a 15 year old Toyota (no matter how brilliant a vehicle the Supra is).

Within the 'TUNER' (dare I say 2F2F) crowd, it's often about the pride of getting the most out of a vehicle at minimal costs, which certainly has been achieved here.

Now, for less than 1/10th the cost of said Lamborghini, this individual has earned some serious bragging rights within his 'performance circle'... ON VIDEO!

Somehow I seriously doubt that the Lamborghini owner/driver will be sharing his defeat with anyone.

So, just for a second, hop down off your High Horse, and simply acknowledge the effort here.

Amazing. I got deboosted for stating my opinion (with some facts). Amazing. Gotta love Autolies...

Lighten up guys, this was only intended to get your knickers in a twist...looks like it worked. Good thing it wasn't Lambo vs Hummer in an off road contest...we'd see page-long rantings explaining why it wasn't a fair contest.

what a silly comparison.

a production car vs. a one-off specially-built car.

There are modded Supra's at even 700 hps that leave modded Hayabusa in the dust. Truth of the matter, yes for people buying a Lambo for 300k would not consider a Supra...but how does that driver behind the wheel of a Lambo feel after losing to a "SUPRA?"...not all to F'in great, that's for sure, even after spending 300K. Bottom line, if EL34's wife was not riding shot gun, the Lambo would have been 600lbs less lighter and a possible victory...LMAO!!!!

How does the Lamborghini driver feel? Most likely he doesn't care. These cars are bought more often for pleasure, rather than pure performance.

Besides, when a Supra kills a Lamborghini, it means it was tuned.

If the Lamborghini didn't care, he'd never have pressed the accelerator, now would he?

Why all the hostility?

The Supra won, and the driver/owner/tuner should be justifiably proud of his efforts.

These 'Rice Rockets' are not my thing, but this was still pretty cool to witness.

DaHarder,

I can tell you that if I owned a Murcielago and some kid in a Supra wanted to race me, I wouldn't. I don't care if the Supra is stock or tuned, I would have bought my car for my pleasure, not put it at risk of street racing etc.

I suspect most owners of exotics think the same way. In fact, most exotic owners I know (and I know a few) seem to be in the game for show, not racing.

"I suspect most owners of exotics think the same way. In fact, most exotic owners I know (and I know a few) seem to be in the game for show, not racing."

Obviously this guy isn't. Kudos to him

"I suspect most owners of exotics think the same way. In fact, most exotic owners I know (and I know a few) seem to be in the game for show, not racing."

thats what bugs me the most about those owners. rather show than go. they don't buy it for the performance, just for the name and exclusivity.

lexusadmirer: yeah, just to lazy to remember.

rosko: don't all supra tuners take their cars to the limit? I think thts defeating the purpose of a badge whore.

I read up on a guy who turned a $200 minivan into a 10 sec flat quarter turner, with around 10k$ invested. With money, you can buy as much speed as you want. At the end of the day, your still in a supra, and the guy you "smoked" in the Lambo will still have a Lambo. Theres always someone faster out there.

Now this is humiliated:

BMW M3 e92 vs Toyota Supra TT 1996 drag race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPLcs_rfDrw

How is this humiliation? A fixed up supra vs a stock M3, WOW. The M3 is a great car, while the supra like the honda civic like the accord, could be fixed cheaply to be faster than anything else. If money was put in the M3 it could faster as well.

@ Lexus admirer ,
I said that supras could be fixed up like the civics and accords, and yes, there are alot of fast civics out there that you dont know of. You could easily make a civic be a 10 second car, The only difference is , mostly people fix up civics as a drag car, while supras are fixed up to be drag cars or drifters

Well, fast is fast no matter what it is/was.

Is this supposed to be surprising?

Really! Is it? Because the title pretty much gives it away.

Who would compare a 1200hp car to a 600hp car and expect the 600hp car to win? The badge doesn't matter at all... if they have similar weight, the 1200hp car will always win, unless the tires can't take the power.

To those who are asking what is the Lamborghini owner thinking? He isn't thinking anything. He OWNS both the Supra and the Murcielago. Do your research, check the Lamborghini forums and you will find out that he wanted to see how his 2 cars compared against each other.

Also who the hell thinks the Supra is supercharged?

exactly, if you watch the whole video, the guys writes at the end that he owns both, so I dont think he really cares that his lambo was smoked by HIS Supra

If they super supercharged a BMW 335 and put it up against the lambo and the same results were achieved, there wouldnt be so many haters. The entire mood of this thread would be positive instead of negative

Chaired by the A.W.E.E.M.

(AutoSpies Wannabe European Enthusiast Majority)

I agree, the "European-only" mentality is so bitter sometimes. It's obvious people like this are jealous and hate how far the Japanese have come in such little time, compared with European companies that have been perfecting their image... oh, and their product (somewhat) for much longer.

well howcum ALL other mfgrs had to follow HONDA in developing their versions of variable valve timing?

and TOYOTA in offering 4-cam engines in an 'economy' car?

and copy the toyota system of 'just-in-time' manufacturing?

Guys, stop the fighting. Looks to me that both drivers are friends trying to show what the supercharged Supra can do. A Porsche 911 turbo stock with beat a Lambo stock too, but sincerely, which one will any of you choose? I don't think anyone of those praising the Supra, will choose it. I own a Bentley Continental GT and get people attention when I hit the street. I don't get the same reaction in my SL65 AMG.

If you're buying a vehicle based primarily on the amount of 'attention' it gets, then that's an issue for you and your therapists to work out.

Note: Self-Esteem Issues I'd wager...

"A Porsche 911 turbo stock with beat a Lambo stock too, but sincerely, which one will any of you choose?"

I would take a 911 Turbo over any Lamborghini besides the Revénton... Porsches just appeal to me over the Lambos.

I would still take the Lambo over that Supra. I know Chevy Chevelle's that can do 7 sec 1/4 miles and smoke that Supra. Hell I know a 600 HP Porsche 944 that will eat that Supra since it weighs less than a Ton! Stock vs HEAVILY modified is no true contest.

BTW...I agree that Supra Def had Nitrous flowing to jump like it did. Lucky guy to have all of those nice toys. Wonder if he is a dealer owner or son of the local drug cartel? hehe

And That Supra cant be street legal. Look at it.

having something that is not street legal varies in different locations. turn signals and brake lights are some obvious ones.

this Rosko Retard obviously hates asians as well as asian cars.

he prob'ly never got over that his asian schoolmates were taking calculus while he was still struggling with remedial math; he can ONLY resort to calling 'em nerds.

so he's into dissing toyotas, since HE can ONLY afford used hyundais, if that. (to say nothing of lambos.)

5-10 years down the road, they'll be earning 10-20x what he will, flipping burgers or whatever. (IF he finally gets his g.e.d.)

Rosko, your an idiot!

rosko when you get down mopping the floors of the bank and get out into the REAL world, you'll find that many 'Asian dudes' FROM asia actually have a preference for full sized AMERICAN cars.

Asian-Americans, on the other hand, do like asian cars (NOT only supras) AND domestics, to a lesser extent, AND even euro brands (IF they don't mind the higher maintenance costs!).

your SIMPLE MINDED VIEWS and prejudices only REFLECT your low level of commentary. AND intelligence.

You can get laid in both on different scenes.

Lambo=Beverly Hills Blonde. Supra=Tokyo Drift!

And the Tokyo Drift girls are hot and will love you even if you wreck your tuned Supra. Not the same for the Beverly Hills Blonde!

Either way you go, there is a place for you. But you can't compare a Lambo to a tuned Supra. Different audience. Different Driver. The guy in the Lambo probably borrowed it from his rich Dad to race some guy from school that is cooler than him!

but the milf could teach you more in one hour than a tuner girl could in ten years

ok I watched the video. Supra is nice. Still a different car. The guy with the Supra wants (and obvioulsy can) beat almost any car on the road. The guy in the Lambo could beat almost any car on the road and looks better doing it.

the guy driving the supra also owns the lambo, watch the end of the video.

This is just dumb... its too extreme. Its like putting a A4 DTM and calling it an A4. Its going to kill just about any stock car in acceleration and on the track...

Its just not fair. Of course you could tune a car to beat a stock car...

You think that Supra is fast? Look at this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8DxXhwdSI

Just because the Supra can be modified does not mean that all of the other aspects of that vehicle are worth ignoring . Fast does not mean refined nor does it mean comfortable or well made . Straight line speed is merely one component of an entire package .

Even a Honda Civic can be fast .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBWK-oNACyM

NICE!

not quite AS MUCH power.

the straight 6 in the supra has a rep of being able to be modded TO A FAR HIGHER DEGREE before it blows up.

the F&F folks can make a civic faster than a 'vette. they likely still need to start with a supra to beat a lambo.

I am not a toyota fan, but if anyone disrespects and rubbishes the supra, even i feel outraged, really, to talk rubbish of supra is like blasphemy, really the supra along with the godzilla GTR are two of the most highly regarded foreign cars in Europe, probably after the 1967 Mustang.

I think Mr. Rosko has a point here. The Supra was only sold in Europe in small numbers because of a lack of demand. For a Toyota, it was very expensive and was also seen as impractical (as stated by Mr. Rosko). The Skyline as far as I am aware was never even sold in Europe but it competed in some European Cup Races with limited success.

"Rosko" and "Bill", all i am saying is that the Supra and the GTR were with regarded with respect in Europe, not necessarily ending in good sales though because Europeans tend to stick to mostly German and British made cars, at least compared to other cars that japanese manufacturers put in European market. And if you tell me that European enthusiasts did not even regard the Supra as a serious performer, then certainly i can not agree with you, because i have family in England and i know how enthusiasts there feel about the supra, not the best in quality or prestige, but certainly a serious performer and an awesome car for your money.

I think I've only ever seen a few Supras in my life...I live in England. THey are relatively unheard of - but then the tuner scene is much smaller her.

Oh please.

No engine that is heavily modified will run reliably for 5 years. No engine. It won't even run reliably for a few months. The wear and tear will be incredible and accelerate the "destruction of the engine" in a much shorter time.

Heavily modified engines are placed under enormous stress by the new power and torque settings. A Formula One engine only lasts for about 300-600 miles before it is fried, and we're talking about 3-l V10 motors with 700-800-horsepower.

oh dear

as I do like the tuner scene, I'm more into autocross and track, since drag racing bores me out.


do some of you realize you can also build a benz or a bmw, hell an audi to make it that fast? the tuner scene doesn't consist of japanese cars if thats what your thinking. tuning firms also make aftermarket parts for euros (dinan for bimmers?) you can build a m3, e63 w/e to make it as fast as a lambo with the right parts an knowledge. chipping a car is also considered tuning as well.

If you knew anything about car, which you apperantly don't, you would know that a higher amount of cilinders has nothing to do with top speed.

lol

Guys it's not like the Supra is the only car that can be supercharged to slingshot past a Lambo.

I just can't believe there's actually people out there who would drop 70K on a used Supra just because it's Lambo fast...Are you crazy!! I'd rather take that money & spend it on a GT-R which really isn't all that much slower, has it in the handling department, looks way better than the dated Supra, & not to mention way better equipped.

Give me an M3 as well any day over that Supra, you could drive the Bimmer in a practical manor everyday in total comfort, & then hit the tracks with the Bavarian athlete & have more fun than you would in a “straight line thrills only” supercharged Supra.

This topic has more negative boost than that Supra has positive!

I wonder who's screwball idea it was to put 1200 horsepower into an old relic like the Toyota Supra?

They must be nuts!

o_O

I can tell you this much the Supra should be called the Poopra based on it's looks.

that can't be a stock supra! i've raced a tuned supra in my e46 m3 and won. We all know the new M3 is as fast if not faster than the E46. So give me a break!!

no big news here, most tuned vehicles outperform stock ones.

but 1200hp supras aren't uncommon nowadays. the technology and advancement over the yearss has some tuners gettting the 2JZ motor int he supra to 1700+ hp. on the stock motor, with the stock twin turbo's you can get about 500hp out of those. and this is on a stock bottom end.

to this day i don't think there is a motor that could take the power the 2JZ delivered in stock form. I mean what other vehicle/motor do you know of that can handle this type of power without improving the bottom end on a daily driven basis? maybe the 4g63 in the EVO's but even that gave way under higher power.

i am eager to see who ups the power of the turbo motor in the bmw to find out its potential...so far, all i've heard is 400-450hp with around the same torque.

So true.

Japan copies everyone.

Do you know how we talk about Made in China like it's a joke?...we used to do the same thing about Made in Japan.

then who made compact SUV segment, or the crossover utility wgn? who also made the fastest speedbike? I think your comment is the joke here.

That was entertaining....next!

People are really arguing about this?

Sadly, yes.

This is a stupid article. It's a stock car vs a moded on a straight dumb dumb dumb

The Supra is awesome.

"GoObama08" you think a stock Supra will outrun the new E92 M3? It won't even outrun a E46 M3. Clearly a modified Supra in the video you provided. So who's "PWNED" now moron?

When will it end? Toyota vs Lambo, jeeze, put this car against the Veyron and it will give it a run. You can take ANY car, do some work to it and make it faster than 99% of the production cars on the road. If it were so easy for auto makers to make cheap easy power they would, unfortunately they have other conditions to worry about, ie. New Car Emission Regulations etc. If it were so great, why didn't Toyota just put this wonderful engine into the IS?

....maybe you think there is some big conspiracy out there to keep us car enthusiasts "down".

hahahahah this is so funny...

In first place i'd expected lambo to win (Toyota????? :-S ) until when I read the toyota had TWELVE HUNDRED hp... even a Bugatti Veyron doesn't have that.

but a bugatti has AWD so there is no backspin so 1001 horses get put to work better

that supra has my utmost respect

Meaningless test.

I doubt anyone is still reading this so I will rant.
This 'comparison' is a meaningless exercise. Two very different cars performing very different missions. I doubt the Supra had the level of refinement that the Lamborghini has with the LP640. Or that it can handle as well, or that it has similar durability (how long can that engine pump out that much power before blowing to pieces? And how long can that drivetrain last?) I mean, they're two totally different machines. I could as similarly 'compare' this 1200 bhp supra with an F1 car and tout about the 'humiliation' the F1 car delivered. Meaningless!

There's one point we all can agree on and that is how stupid ugly the Toyota Supra is.

Jesus, you all sound like a bunch of losers. Are you really arguing over which car is better, when none of you actually own either one? And who wants a chick who is attracted to you for your car? That's pathetic.

WTF? why do they have a BMW as the picture?