Toyota: We’ll crack 35mpg CAFE before 2020, plug-in hybrids in 2010

Is he gonna whine about 6k in additional cost to consumer? I like his attitude!

Hey! I was going to say the same thing!

kindly remove your head from anal cavity BEFORE making your usual "intelligent" comments.

toyota is missing a BIG issue here: in the US, the MAJORITY of electricity is generated by coal-fired plants.

therefore, a plug-in hybrid will not reduce pollution, it will simply hide it from the self-righteous drivers of these cars.

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anyone capable of doing SIMPLE math and physics will know that the GROSS pollution would STILL be less. charging can also be done at night, when there is huge excess capacity anyway.

further, there will be cleaner alternative and cleaner generating sources in the future. there already is, in some areas.

naysayers continually grasp at straws for criticisms of little to no validity.

strike "cleaner and" from imperfect sentence above.

xyz:

"anyone capable of doing SIMPLE math and physics will know that the GROSS pollution would STILL be less. charging can also be done at night, when there is huge excess capacity anyway."

ok, so do the simple math for us. please share with us the emissions per kilowatt hour of electricity produced in a coal-fired plant. and then let us know how many kilowatt hours it takes to charge the plug-in car battery. then compare and contrast that with the emissions for a four-cylinder gasoline engine. thanks.

oh, and excess capacity at night is irrelevant. emissions per kilowatt hour produced are a constant.

You have a point! Come on you Toyota sheep! I love Toyota too but come on! Although I am happy he is talking tough! A step in the right direction!

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What the Hell is wrong with you people?

yeah, what an INCREDIBLE unleashing of toyota hatred!

it's like a stumbling stampede of a whole HERD of jackasses; stumbling 'cuz they all have their heads up their *ss*s so can't even see where they're going.

with his head up his rear end, it is ONLY NATURAL that rosko the clown sees the world backasswards.

toyota has it in black and white in their corporate philosophy and goals to indeed help make the world a better place. and just INCIDENTALLY, they also make more profits than all the other car companies on the planet combined.

meanwhile, the "altruistic" domestic companies, who have exported thousands of jobs overseas in accord with their unstated BUT TRUE corporate philosophies to make as much $$$ as they possibly can...

cannot seem to stop HEMORRHAGING MONEY! LOL!

He who has the most money wins!

HEADLINES Year 2098 Toyota\lexus only car company left on the planet.

You think there'll be cars in 2098??

so we'll all live in generic world of people movers with no style or passion. yeah...don't think so.

I'll be dead by 2098 and I'll be proud of it!

Toyota is always trying to stay one step ahead of it's competitors, and that is why it has propspered so much through the years. I have seen Toyota grow from cheap economic car producer, into becoming the biggest car manufacturer with second to none technological innovations and implementations in higher scale products like Lexus. I have lived most of my life in Asia, and really the way that toyota has grown from supplying small amount of cars in the market around 1970s to almost dominating the whole market around now is quite unthinkable.

Yes! but its happening,and the bone heads on this site can't stop it.Its hard being #1.

corporalAmazingIdiot, as he would be depicted in a japanese manga comic, would likely look like a baboon who'd been constipated for a few weeks.

what kind of person even CHOOSES such a comic book screen name???

enthusiast:

"ok, so do the simple math for us. please share with us the emissions per kilowatt hour of electricity produced in a coal-fired plant. and then let us know how many kilowatt hours it takes to charge the plug-in car battery. then compare and contrast that with the emissions for a four-cylinder gasoline engine. thanks."

don't have the time to waste REdoing the math, but had it lined out once by a physics prof: centralized electric generation is FAR MORE efficient than distributed generation. consider how much fuel would be burned if your city's central power plant went down and every household had to fire up their portable generator.

that's the big picture, general rule.

of course, there are always exceptions. and in the case of small scale SOLAR and home WIND generators, the exact opposite may be true. one disadvantage of centralized generation, is that are unavoidable losses in DISTRIBUTION.

honda some YEARS ago produced a "net-zero pollution" car. NOT a hybrid, but simply a super clean conventional ICE car. they called it net-zero because the emissions were LESS than that generated by a coal plant to produce the amount of energy to recharge a pure electric car.

if the ICE in a prius is as clean (quite likely), then it is also a net-zero emissions vehicle. it ALREADY is acknowledged as having one of the lowest carbon footprints of any vehicle short of a bicycle.
a plug-in prius MAY have a net emissions figure that is not as good, DEPENDING of how the juice coming out of the ac outlet is generated.

"oh, and excess capacity at night is irrelevant. emissions per kilowatt hour produced are a constant."

true as far as that goes (constant). yet, due to varying demands over a 24-hr day, powerplants have to have enuff capacity to satisfy PEAK demand. at ALL OTHER HOURS, the plant is larger than it needs to be.

having thousands of people charge up their plug-ins at off peak hours, allows for MORE EFFICIENT USE of resources, from original construction, to lifetime use of powerplants.

consider how much fuel would be burned if your city's central power plant went down and every household had to fire up their portable generator.

for a simple math exercise, compute the cost per kwh to run your portable generator. compare that with what your utility charges you.

now if you got your household juice from solar panels and wind generators, yes, you WOULD be ahead with local generation.

i'd still be far more comfortable and better off than YOU, living in a hole in the ground.

much better message than GM's!