Study Shows New-Car Shoppers Do Not See Diesel as Mainstream

Study Shows New-Car Shoppers Do Not See Diesel as Mainstream
According to the latest Kelley Blue Book Marketing Research study, the vast majority of in-market new-vehicle shoppers do not see diesel as a likely mainstream fuel source in the future.

The January 2008 results reveal that only six percent of shoppers think diesel is most likely to succeed in becoming a mainstream vehicle powertrain type, compared with 40 percent saying hybrids, 20 percent saying hydrogen fuel cell and 17 percent citing flexible-fuel systems.

Interest in diesels is steadily declining among in-market new-vehicle shoppers, while interest in hybrids continues to grow. The gap between shoppers' interest in diesels versus hybrids has greatly widened particularly in the last month, with the nine-point gap in December 2007 jumping to a 17-point gap in January 2008. When asked about their perceptions of diesel engines, nearly half of in-market new-vehicle shoppers say they are dirty and noisy. In addition, the latest study shows that shoppers increasingly believe that diesel-powered vehicles get poorer fuel mileage than conventional gasoline engines, and fewer consumers are seeing diesels as fuel-efficient.

"Many automakers are looking toward diesels as a very workable solution for the future, especially in light of the recently passed energy bill, but the results of this study should give them pause and make them realize they need to do a better, more thorough job of winning over the American consumer," said Jack R. Nerad, executive editorial director and executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book and kbb.com. "Clearly many Americans still think of the dirty diesels of the past and are not aware of the benefits of new clean-diesel technology. Some manufacturers, such as Volkswagen with its 'Diesolution Tour,' are doing their part to ensure consumers are educated about today's diesels. However, not enough is being done by the auto industry as a whole to help American consumers understand the benefits of modern-day diesel technology."

While diesel consideration and favorability are declining in the eyes of in-market new-vehicle shoppers, hybrids continue to gain favor. In addition to hybrids being seen as the most viable mainstream powertrain choice, interest in hybrids has steadily increased in recent months, with 61 percent of shoppers saying they are interested in hybrids in the latest study. When asked about the premium they are willing to pay for a gas/electric hybrid over a traditional gasoline-powered version of the same vehicle, this month shoppers are willing to pay an average premium of $3,135, up from an average premium of $2,645 a month ago in December 2007.

When asked about which hybrid vehicles they would consider for their next purchase or lease in the latest study, in-market new-vehicle shoppers cite the Honda Civic as most popular with 35 percent. The next most-popular models are the Ford Escape and Toyota Highlander, each garnering 23 percent. Toward the bottom of the consideration list is the vehicle that arguably put hybrids on the mainstream map -- the Toyota Prius -- which only garnered 12 percent of the consideration.

"As auto manufacturers look toward development of future products and technologies, it's important for them to track, trend and understand current perceptions among in-market new-vehicle shoppers," said Rick Wainschel, vice president of marketing research and brand communications for Kelley Blue Book. "Knowing where shoppers stand on these issues also can help manufacturers devise successful marketing campaigns to ensure proper education about new technologies and ultimately, success in the sales of their future products."


DaHarderDaHarder - 1/28/2008 11:50:43 AM
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Study Shows New-Car Shoppers Do Not See Diesel as Mainstream...

In The U.S., That Is - Which Is Really A Shame.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 1/28/2008 2:40:56 PM
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This is a flawed study deliberately done by interviewing mostly ignorant people.


M35MTM35MT - 1/28/2008 12:02:31 PM
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It isnt the future. Diesel hybrid could be, however.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 1/28/2008 12:17:39 PM
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you're right, down the road that will be better. But diesels are better TODAY than gas-electric hybrids. They offer similar/better performance, lower greenhouise gas emissions, and better fuel enomomy. And they're less expensive and don't use up half the cars trunk. It's a shame Americans are so ignorant of them, there are some really tremendous deisel vehicles coming out.


M35MTM35MT - 1/28/2008 1:01:20 PM
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Ignorance is the correct word, due to the fact that they're not widely available here, most wouldnt even know clean diesel exists. Just the other day I was reading about the IS220d sold in Europe, which is really a better car than the IS250...what gives?


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 1/28/2008 1:44:54 PM
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aside from the fact that in 8 to 10 years the hybrid battery in alot of the current cars will have to be replaced. Last time I checked batteries are that enviromentally friendly.

Most americans remember the diesels of old. Having to add additives to their cars to keep them from freezing in the winters, being loud & emitting the black smoke from the tailpipe. I metioned to my dad, who is 65, about diesels coming to the US again and that is what he thought. The diesels coming to the US very soon are very economical in regards to gas savings & emissions. Plus they are quiet, more powerful and more durable.


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 1/28/2008 1:46:08 PM
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hybrid batteries are NOT that enviromentally friendly .. what i meant to say


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 1/28/2008 2:42:50 PM
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The only hybrid I would ever consider is a plug-in hybrid strictly for urban use and only if the power companies can be persuaded to offer low special low rates for recharging batteries during off-peak hours.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 1/28/2008 2:45:42 PM
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Lexus_Admirer_, you must be aware that the distillation process produces many different kinds of fuel. In order to be efficient our society has to have users for each of these types of fuel.


M35MTM35MT - 1/28/2008 4:03:47 PM
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You can deboost all you want, diesel isnt the future, its the present.


autoproautopro - 1/28/2008 5:10:13 PM
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Wrong again!Hybrid batteries are designed to last the life of the car,15 years or so.


VISOVISO - 1/29/2008 6:19:37 PM
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Prove your hypothesis? Diesels in Europe meet stringent environmental requirements for clean air actually producing less CO2 emissions and improved gas mileage compared to petrol engines. In many cases, diesel engines are getting better gas milage than hybrids. I think you exaggerate the effectiveness of hybrids


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 1/28/2008 12:25:53 PM
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there are very few good diesel on the market in the US right now, so why would anyone be surprised that americans think of 1970s diesels that were 'dirty and noisy.'

let's wait till the cars are actually here before asking the average (clueless) consumer what they think of them.


SpicyMikeySpicyMikey - 1/28/2008 1:01:18 PM
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True, the results are almost useless. The average person is misinformed and doesn't understand the new technology. What do we expect them to conclude?

However, it does show that there will be some significant cost for educating the consumer, before putting them in volume vehicles.


JUGNUJUGNU - 1/28/2008 1:31:31 PM
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here in Arab countries oil prices are not a big issue. Infact till now it's not an issue at all.

and still more than 95% cars on the road are Petrol (Not counting Commercial vehicles like Trucks and busses).

I mean even here in Middle East Diesel is viewed as something cheap, dirty, low class and things like that. Certainly Not positive.

They r definately good i agree but that's what most of the people think.

I think it's maybe due to the fact that Japanese haven't been into Diesels. When they'll seriously do Diesles i am sure there will be a lot more converts and people will start noticing and considering it (beacuse of their appeal and reach).

but we know they r doing Hybrids. Which if not better is equally good.

JUGNU


M35MTM35MT - 1/28/2008 4:11:17 PM
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Midengine posting subjective propaganda? Didnt see that coming.


SteedPubSteedPub - 1/28/2008 1:49:15 PM
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People don't consider diesels to be a mainstream product because have not yet been told to yet.

I had to sound crass, but the fact is that by-in-large people's perceptions of these things are purely based on what they read, hear, and see in the media.

If this "trend" or "market condition" had teeth, the few car makers that offer diesels in the US (which are currently scant) would have rows and rows of these unwanted cars on their lots. Fact is, they don't. If you want a Mercedes or Jeep Cherokee CDI, you often have to order one or get on a waiting list if you don't want to take the one silver loaded model they might have on site. And, there are are no incentives or special financing for these things either.

Second, these vehicles are not typically advertised or marketed in mass media because they don't need to be. People that want them know they exist and that market is more than enough to keep dealers empty. Therefore, the great automotive unwashed of the world barely know they exist. So it is not a surprise that most people polled didn't think they were "mainstream".

Lastly, the news media em masse does not advocate diesels. Most people in the media themselves are know nothings when it comes to diesels. They carry their knee jerk and uneducated notions of diesel cars of the past and present that as a frame in each and every story about new ones.

Automotive media gives them a fair chance at times, but the CNN's, MSNBCS, and Consumer Reports of the world for the most part ignore them. And, when they do report on them, the slant is usually bent toward "what a strange thing, a novelty, an alternative", as opposed to a mainstream choice. You might say the media casts them as the automotive equivalent to Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich.




M53RM53R - 1/28/2008 1:57:01 PM
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Abit of advertisement will help. Something short, yet atracts the customer. How about " Cleaner, more fuel efficient, and fast. The all new diesels." :)


AMGZING_fanboyAMGZING_fanboy - 1/28/2008 2:28:41 PM
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I can see my self driving a jetta CDI


SteedPubSteedPub - 1/28/2008 2:30:49 PM
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Just to add....

I don't consider myself to be one of the fringe diesel advocates that you will encounter on some of the diesel car blogs and forums who religiously seek out ways to burn vegetable oil in them or how to draft big rigs to get an additional 4 mpg.

I do own a diesel car and have owned a number of diesel Ford trucks. I have found them to be just as reliable and attractive as gasoline vehicles. I don't mind 45 mpg either for my commuter car. I do however keep other vehicles in the garage to satisfy the speed freak in me.


mini22mini22 - 1/28/2008 2:34:24 PM
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The big problem that has been touched on is that there a hardly any diesel cars in the US at this time.Consequently there has not been enough exposure to diesels.When all the mainstream Euro car makers, plus GM and Honda start marketing them I think you will see a change in the perception of diesels. Also the price of gas has not gone up to a high enough level yet. It takes more then 10 yrs to amortize the cost on the average hybrid with fuel savings where it takes 1 to yrs with a diesel.The article is an assesment based on the current lack of exposure. It might be a very different story in a couple of yrs.


Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 1/28/2008 3:02:24 PM
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One vehicle will make diesels mainstream, the Ford F-150. As soon as ford gives us that small diesel in the F-150, the huge 1/2 ton truck buying public will begin to see the light just as the 3/4 and 1 ton buyers have. Just stroll along any Ford or Dodge lot and try to pick out a heavy duty truck with options you want that isnt Diesel...


WhelanWhelan - 1/28/2008 3:41:37 PM
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Did the study also point out that only Mercedes and VW currently offer diesel cars (not counting Trucks in this). And last I checked most people that are you average everyday car buyers (including myself) do not even make enough per year or have the finances to buy a $50,000 Mercedes or for the price, or want to get a FUGLY new Jetta or tiny holds nothing Golf/Rabbit.

Put a diesel in some attractive cars that we normally buy, i.e. best sellers like a Camry or Accord or something and you will see a shift.


WhelanWhelan - 1/28/2008 3:42:07 PM
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P.S. - Acura/Honda are coming out with i-DTEC cars in 2009 so that should be interesting to see.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/28/2008 4:13:47 PM
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Shocking!

These are the same people that I overheard talking about their new "330hp Audi Super A4" the other day!


mini22mini22 - 1/28/2008 5:04:03 PM
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It's BMW,Audi,Honda,GM that I know of that are putting diesels in passenger cars.But GM is also now saying it will not focus on diesels. Rather they as well as Ford now want to do the smaller engines with turbo's. Obviously it's less expensive for them


mercuryguymercuryguy - 1/28/2008 7:57:58 PM
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Electrical failures tend to be the most expensive to repair on a vehicle, so Hybrids will likely go on the auction block just like the econo-boxes of the eighties that everyone hated and could not wait to get rid of. No one wants an underpowered car. Up here in Buffalo, Batteries tend to freeze if not rigorously maintained, imagine paying a couple of grand to replace all those crazy batteries. People too lazy to change a spare tire these days, how many are going to maintain their batteries?

Diesel makes more sense, it is extremely reliable, which is what everyone wants today, a more durable, reliable car with less moving parts, and less things to go wrong. Diesels offer great towing capacity. With a manual shift Diesel, you can easily get 50 miles per gallon.

The big problem with energy, is that everyone drives a 4 wheel drive vehicle today, which is beyond crazy. The American consumer needs to get much smarter and consider manual transmissions, 2 Wheel drive, and Diesel engines. The American consumer today buys on impulse, and judges a car based upon a car commercial or consumer report ad. Most people care more about the DVD player, than the engine horsepower, fuel efficiency or crash rating. Ludicrous!

For you green planet people, there are more important factors in a car purchase than miles per gallon, how about insurance costs for a start, which eclipses the cost of fuel, especially in States Like New York, where 5 star Crash ratings are paramount for more affordable insurance rates.

As for the new CAFÉ standards, the Detroit 3 will just fire back by building junk cars with more plastic screws to get the weight down, so the consumer loses in the end. This is why cars are totaled in accidents today, the plastic can’t hold up to impact forces, so everyone pays in higher insurance costs.

Don’t believe me? Remember how The last round CAFÉ standards brought us the dreaded donut spare tire that is very unsafe, as people tend to drive on them way beyond their lifespan, and above the speed rating.

Today, only one American Car Model is still available with a full-size spare. Get them while they last, as these choices will only be available for the chosen few in years to come on cars like RR and Bentley.



mercuryguymercuryguy - 1/28/2008 8:06:58 PM
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GM ruined the Diesel reputation in America, when they cam out with the brilliant idea of converting a gasoline block to Diesel to reduce the production cost. Result? Everyone who was misled into buying one wound up re-powering the car with a gas engine instead, because it was a very poorly manufactured Diesel, with a block not engineered to handle the compression of a diesel. Can you imagine the cost of re-powering a vehicle today?

Thanks Detroit, for taking a great idea and turning it into a Joke answer for Americans. No wonders the Europeans are way ahead of us. They are simple more intelligent people. The US will constantly chase it’s tail on absurdity.



chewychewy - 1/28/2008 10:19:41 PM
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America's most fuel efficient car will go on sale in about half a year, it will be a diesel.


StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 1/28/2008 11:04:46 PM
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Whether a Honda has torque or not, people like that high revving engine sound, people like high redlines. I'm not into high revving 4's. I just like a big V8. If the 550i w/ Stick/Nav was more affordable, i'd get it - my definition of a perfect car. Just knowing BMW makes a 4 Door RWD V8 w/ a Stick keeps me happy.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 7:35:31 PM
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"Whether a Honda has torque or not, people like that high revving engine sound, people like high redlines."

#1... what does that have to do with this?

#2... if that's your excuse for not liking diesels, well, it shouldn't be. People who buy diesels for the gas mileage DON'T care about high RPMs--but they do love the mid-range torque.


gregsfcgregsfc - 2/8/2008 7:39:26 PM
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Lexus Admirer has brought up his biased, incorrect statistics twice now. It's time to stop the nonsense.

No. Diesel fuel does NOT require 25% more petroleum in manufacture, only 10% more petroleum is contained in diesel fuel versus gasoline, however, it takes less energy / petroleum to produce diesel fuel as compared to gasoline, so the petroleum requirement comes out about the same.

This statistic, however, is irrelevant because diesel engines do not require diesel fuel. They can all run on any blend of three different types of renewable fuel (biodiesel, greendiesel, and renewable diesel) not to mention other fuels derived from coal and natural gas. Moreover, diesel engines can run on any of these fuels, without modification (unlike gas engines running on alternatives) and do this without loss in fuel economy (also unlike gas cars running on alternatives like ethanol and propane).

I don't know where Mr. Admirer gets the greenhouse gas numbers, but the EPA doesn't agree. All diesel vehicles sold in the U.S. today rate better with respect to CO2 output than the gas-powered counterparts. The average improvement over gas cars is 10%, but using B20 biodiesel blend will reduce that another 15.6% leaving a diesel emitting around 25% less than a gas-powered car running gasoline!

The idea, by some, that diesels are still too dirty is a dumb statement. From here on out, diesels--by regulation--must be as clean burning as gas cars in every category, including diesel's two biggest challenges (NOx and PM). And, by the nature of them being more fuel economical, diesels will naturally be cleaner in other categories such as hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide, so, in essence, diesels to come are cleaner burning than gas-powered cars, so if one thinks they are still too dirty, then he or she should not ever be caught driving a dirtier-burning gas car!


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