Diesel Rising: Top 10 New Diesel Vehicles

Audi R8 TDI V12
BMW 3 Series - 335d
BMW X5 - xDrive35d
Kia Borrego
Land Rover LRX
Mercedes-Benz Vision GLK Freeside
Mitsubishi Concept-RA
Nissan Forum
Saturn Flextreme
Subaru Forester


interesting list. haven't heard of the flextreme however.

oh and BTW, if subaru brings their boxer diesel forester and legacy in the states, I'm signing up for either one!!

I concur. Hard to decide between the two of them.

In many instances, hybrids get just-as-good, if not better fuel economy, and very, very, very, very lower EMISSIONS, which is half of the whole 'global climate change' argument, despite the clattering otherwise from the pro-diesel initiative.

and what does it feel like when your LS600h IS CONSUMING FUEL?!?!?!?
degrading?

not only that, I hear lots of old diesel hilux pickups in some countries with that much mileage!

The HiLux and MB 240D are two cars that run with or without all the bolts you might think necessary.

The only ones that I would actually buy are the BMW 3 Series - 335d and the
BMW X5 - xDrive35d

Nothing compares to the V12 TDI in the R8 and the upcoming Q7. Maddening torgue, high performance, all with a super clean diesel and just as good if not better fuel savings as hybrids. Plus lower emissions to boot. Now that is one way to enjoy being an automotive enthusiast without the guilt.

LRX, what about the LR3/Disco, thats what I want a diesel in.

They're gonna get jealous when that VTEC pops in the next lane @ 8,000 rpm...

GoObama,

LMAO

You crack me up, you hybrid hyped-up, weed smoking, tree hugging democrat.

Give me a break, as it stands the hybrid technology is a hype and a "feel good" technology for hippies. The cost in energy and resources far out weight the benefits; a) for the customer, b) for the environment.

Take a look at the manufacturing of those batteries, and the recycling or lack thereof of the said batteries.

Yes, in the coming years, it will become more efficient and cleaner to produce. Actually both M-B and Audi have hinted that the next generation will be "diesel/hybrid". The problem is the extra cost and how to transfer, or not, this extra cost to the customer.

Count on the japanese to find or create a "niche' and marketing "tactic" in the name of profit. This what it is about, period. Of course America, being obsess with consumption fell for it. Europeans, manufacturers and consumers are much more savvy and cautious and are not buying into it that easy, they are also very into diesel for a cost reason at the pump.
And as it was mentioned before the driving habits in Europe are much different.

As far as manufacturing the batteries, take a look at what Audi did, even if they started to develop hybrids in the late 80's and have been improving the technology since (research the hybrid drivetrain on the Q7, you will see how it blows the "synergy" out of the water), their main concern was the recycling of the batteries. They finally entered into an agreement with a manufacturer regarding this and therefore, with piece of mind they will soon start production of Hybrids vehicle.
Audi, and other european manufacturers have been "green" since the 70's; recycling their products ( 95% of the scrap premium materials used into making an Audi are recycled, on average 80% of a built Audi can be recycled, the Ingolstadt factory is 65% autonomous.)

Audi won the "michelin Challenge" in China years back with a fuel cell A2, this is more likely a very viable solution, as Honda and GM are starting to prove.
The VW/Audi group is working on a warm hydrogen technology, that would be erasing much of the issues of hydrogen as it is today. (storage and production)

So stop your propaganda about Lexus and open your eyes to the world and the facts, not the fiction.

Oh I don't know, they're boosting rosko alot more than you.

The real number one:

Jetta TDI, it will be here in less than half a year, about 20,000 dollars starting price, good performance, possibly 50 mpg.

a lot of the other ones are concept/several years out in the future

By the way, the B9 Audi A4 will come in 2009 with the 3.0 TDi.
According to Autocar in the UK, it is a winner, and it just bested the new C-class V6 diesel in the AMuS winter test.

Bring the BMW 120D & 123D over as well.

WHY THE F*** won't Land Rover give us a diesel LR3???? Great, what good is a concept that's 3 years off going to do?! It's much lighter anyway, it will get MPG's in the 20's. They need to focus on their guzzlers first.

As much as I dislike ALL late model BMWs, I would gladly pay any monthly payment for a Black Sapphire 335d M-coupe, with the Coral Red leather interior. I've always wanted a diesel sports coupe.

I'm tired of all the talk about bringing diesels back to the U.S., and nothing materializing. At this point in time, I'm convinced that Alfa Romeo will make a resurgence in the U.S. before diesel cars will.

What I fail to understand is why the U.S., the country of long commutes, has adopted gasoline as the fuel of choice. I would think the U.S. would benefit more from diesel vehicles than Europe would. It's cheaper to manufacture, yields better mpg, and engines using diesel are allaround more purposeful with respect to carrying passengers and cargo.

Yes, I know people harp on the fact that diesel, in a lot of cases, costs more than gas;. But(IMO), that's merely a result of price fixing, to make diesel more equal to gas with respect to mpg ratings. I see no reason why the introduction of more diesel vehicles would be such a bad thing. Unless there's some kind of hidden agenda.

E85 raises food cost too.
Us North American, well some of us, we like cars, yes, we don't like appliances.
So what ever floats anybody boats, but I am not driving a gutless, silent piece of plastic. And I am not driving a "fake" gas saving Lexus Hybrid neither. So until better days come, I will still drive my gas guzzler twin turbo V6 and enjoy every minute of it, specially when doing 110 in the rain, thanks to quattro.
But I would enjoy an A3 2.0, which are PZEV for 2008, yes, like the Prius, but have 200hp and can be a blast to drive on command.

and goObama and amazingbimmer and whoever else thinks that Audi is no good or that we should not have fun anymore while driving, please read this:

http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/General_News/0,,1369-1372-2094_2265348,00.html

Have a great time

NPR ran a story yesterday, from a reporter at the chicago auto show interviewing various experts, industry representatives, and consumers.

diesels, even the new clean diesels, are far more overhyped than hybrids. (IF one even ACCEPTS that hybrids are overhyped, rather than having REAL positive points.)

it's true diesel vehicles get high mpg ratings. the reasons for this are: 1) diesel engines run high compression ratios, and 2) diesel fuel has more chemical energy content than gasoline.

against this: 1) it takes more crude to produce a gallon of diesel than it does for gasoline. 2) the energy required in the refining process is also greater for diesel. 3) the total carbon in diesel exhaust is higher. 4) needing to be more robust due to the high CRs, diesel engines weigh more.

bottom line: diesels have a BIGGER carbon footprint than conventional cars, to say nothing of hybrids.

sailor:

i imagine you spend a LOT of time at ports and superports. how's the air quality at those places?

Uh...the Audi A6 2.7L is a Twin Turbo.