NO MORE GERMAN CARS - Now What Do YOU DRIVE???

NO MORE GERMAN CARS - Now What Do YOU DRIVE???
A hypothetical question, but still a fun one to consider.  Agent 001 asked me a similar question during the interview process, and I couldn't answer. 

A world without BMW, Mercedes, Audi or VW.  Sure, all you Lexus fans out there are cheering the scenario, but lets face it, were it not for Mercedes and BMW, there probably wouldn't be a Lexus or Infiiniti either.  Heck, we wouldn't even have Acura come to think of it.

So the question is this, take the Germans off the market, and for fun remove Lexus and Infiniti as well and tell us and the world:

WHAT WOULD YOU DRIVE???

I will lead off by declaring that without the brands we all love (or hate) I would probably drive the Dodge Charger SRT8 or the Challenger SRT8.  Yeah yeah yeah, we can split hairs and say we wouldn't even have those cars seeing as they are based on the older MB E-class chassis, but we lets not get that technical today.



I think the Nissan Altima SE-R and Pontiac G8 GT would get more than a casual glance as well, but for me I think the Dodge vehicles get my nod.



So now you know my choice, now it is your turn to enlighten the rest of us.

WHAT WOULD YOU DRIVE???



CarboyCarboy - 5/17/2008 10:13:54 AM
-2 Boost
Jaguar XF.


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 11:56:54 AM
-1 Boost
Well if I had to choose Domestic's or Japanese only which I think is what you wanted everyone to choose (one or two from either), not Ferrari's or other premium marques, I'd be driving the new CTS-V, Escalade or Tahoe Hybrid.

If it was Japanese only, Nissan GT-R or Lexus GS450h.

001


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 11:58:07 AM
-1 Boost
I like the new Sierra Z71 Pickup's as well...

001


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 12:03:25 PM
-2 Boost
And FJ Cruiser

001


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 12:08:21 PM
+3 Boost
EVO ain't bad either

001


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 1:09:49 PM
+2 Boost
I also like the King Ranch F-150's except the mileage is SO much worse (11-12 vs. 15-17) than the new GM's, I'd go GM.

001


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 5/17/2008 2:21:36 PM
-4 Boost
Carboy, Jaguar is Indian now and the Chinese are coming. I'd be content with a Hyundai Santa Fe. My first choice is the FJ Cruiser but I'm the only one in the family who likes it.


ubercoolubercool - 5/17/2008 4:14:11 PM
-4 Boost
Jaguar XF is my first choice before the German offerings


Agent004Agent004 - 5/17/2008 8:56:48 PM
-2 Boost
The bus.


humperdeathhumperdeath - 5/22/2008 3:19:03 PM
+1 Boost
Is Schwinn german? I'd have to go there, or uncover my '79 280zx.


KZ258KZ258 - 5/17/2008 10:14:02 AM
+8 Boost
oh my god...here we go again


silver1silver1 - 5/17/2008 3:54:17 PM
-5 Boost
I'll drive Acura.......

It drives Good, reliable, excellent styling, and I can fun with the SH-AWD the only alternative to BMW and AUdi's Quattro....

Acura


stonestone - 5/17/2008 10:29:56 AM
+3 Boost
Mainstream
Coupe: Nissan 350Z
Compact: Mazda 3
Midsize: Nissan Maxima SE
Full Size: Pontiac G8
SUV: Chevy Tahoe

Luxury
Coupe: Corvette Z06
Compact: Volvo S60R
Midsize: Cadillac CTS
SUV: Cadillac Escalade

Full Size: Is there anything decent in this category from anyone but the Japanese/Germans????



2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 5/17/2008 10:37:05 AM
-1 Boost
If the economy forced us NOT to buy foreign vehicles. I would get the new G8 with the 6.1L and the wrangler unlimited. The new pontiacs are actually REALLY nice! I never thought it, but my friend got a g6 GT and it has everything you would ever need in a vehicle, and for the low $20k range!
The 4 door wrangler is the ultimate utility vehicle. family fun, goes through anything.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/18/2008 3:34:02 AM
0 Boost
I had a friend buy a G6 too and it started falling apart 7 months later. Personally, I'd stay away from Pontiac.


993Turbo993Turbo - 5/19/2008 8:30:45 AM
0 Boost
Jeeps are total crap. Fact, not opinion.


PorschinatorPorschinator - 5/19/2008 7:37:29 PM
+2 Boost
A firend of mine recently got a G6 and she loves it. I have had friends buy new Camry's, last gen Camaro, and RR that had problems and does not mean the whole line is screwed.

You can go to any Forum for any car and there are always people that have issues. Cars comps just have to lessen the potential issues or get bad press similar to above...


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 5/17/2008 10:39:43 AM
-2 Boost
probably a Bentley GT...


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 10:41:39 AM
-1 Boost
I assume you already drive a German car on par with the Bentley GT which would put you in a MB S65 or CL65.

Of course, the point is in a real world situation what would you drive???


ricerricer - 5/17/2008 10:52:30 AM
-8 Boost
drive your mother! u suck ooj, this is lame


KZ258KZ258 - 5/17/2008 11:40:42 AM
+1 Boost
LOL!!


CLK63BlackSeriesCLK63BlackSeries - 5/17/2008 12:15:51 PM
-5 Boost
The Bently GT is crap compared to a CL65


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 12:32:45 PM
+4 Boost
Agent J,

Assumptions based upon your own arrogance makes you look like an ass.

What the hell is happening to this place?


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 12:39:46 PM
-3 Boost
What arrogance might I ask?

I could have thrown out the Ferrari or Bentley as the car of choice if no German cars existed but I didn't. I chose cars that fit the bill that I think would be a good alternative given the question at hand.

While we all wish we could afford cars like the Bentley GT, the fact is most of us can't, myself included.


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 1:10:29 PM
+3 Boost
Arrogance =

"I assume you already drive a German car on par with the Bentley GT which would put you in a MB S65 or CL65."



ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 5/17/2008 2:51:07 PM
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No, I drive an A4, but I also have a GT3, so if there were no Porsche, then a Bentley...


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 4:07:08 PM
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ThierryHenry14 - How about setting up your AgentSpace page and show us some pictures of your GT3 for the rest of us to lust after???


Agent009Agent009 - 5/19/2008 11:39:04 AM
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"ThierryHenry14 - How about setting up your AgentSpace page and show us some pictures of your GT3 for the rest of us to lust after???"

Now that would be too easy! Easy to talk the talk, but difficult to walk the walk.


CLK63BlackSeriesCLK63BlackSeries - 5/20/2008 3:16:30 AM
+1 Boost
a Bently GT is still at least 50k more than a gt3


1evlaudi1evlaudi - 5/17/2008 11:02:46 AM
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that's easy; Pontiac G8 if I need a sedan. Buick SUV if I need a SUV, Corvete if I need a sports car, Dodge Magnum if I need a station Wagon, Ford Escape Hybrid if I need something practical and good on gas, Dodge Challenger or Camaro convertible (when they come out) if I need a nice convertible.


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 5/17/2008 2:31:01 PM
-1 Boost
Station Wagon ?!?! this sure is a term the auto makers cringe when they hear that word . They for some reasons are trying to sweep that name under the carpet , Now , it is, compact ultility vehicle , or Caddy would use the name , performance utility vehicle . What a hoot . why dont' they call them what they are . Now GM is talking about making thier line of SUV's more car like .Looks like they are going back to where they when they did make wagons . Sorry for being of topic but, I couldn't resist


_43LE_43LE - 5/17/2008 11:07:29 AM
+9 Boost
"Sure, all you Lexus fans out there are cheering the scenario"

Typical adversarial fanboy comment. Does everyone here assume that if you like Lexus you hate the German brands? I like Japanese and German cars.


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 12:34:32 PM
+4 Boost
"Does everyone here assume that if you like Lexus you hate the German brands? I like Japanese and German cars."

Only the narrow-minded think that way. Unfortunately most posters here, and now agents, seem to follow that belief.



SteedPubSteedPub - 5/17/2008 11:07:30 AM
0 Boost
Mini Cooper S :)


mwrmmgmwrmmg - 5/17/2008 1:16:47 PM
-1 Boost
That's German made in the UK!!


SteedPubSteedPub - 5/17/2008 6:12:29 PM
0 Boost
Dammit. You caught me.


mark06902mark06902 - 5/17/2008 11:16:26 AM
+3 Boost
a Maserati....duhhhh


AlexTxAlexTx - 5/17/2008 11:28:11 AM
-1 Boost
Renault Clio RS Cup.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 5/17/2008 11:40:57 AM
0 Boost
well that would really suck.

but i'd switch from a 335i to a cadillac CTS.


BimmerGuyFL78BimmerGuyFL78 - 5/17/2008 11:44:53 AM
+9 Boost
Hyundai Genesis

:)


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 12:24:07 PM
-4 Boost
LOL!!!!!!

001


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 12:30:36 PM
+8 Boost
I see agent001 continues his "I know more than everyone else" parade against the Genesis.

Dude, it's not going to win LeMans or get you a prime spot at the Bellagio's valet, but it sure ain't the rolling pile of crap you'd have us all beleive.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/17/2008 12:55:35 PM
-6 Boost
Prove that it's not. How many 10, 15, or 20 year old Hyundais do you see on the road? Huh? Not many. Hyundai hasn't proven that they're a decent brand. Even if they do manage to become a good car, I will never own one. They've permanently damaged their reputation with me.


Agent001Agent001 - 5/17/2008 1:06:11 PM
-2 Boost
The Genesis is a better Avalon.

Nothin more.

So it's a very good car, just not even close to being a true competitor to the upper echelon.

End of story.

001


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 1:12:45 PM
+7 Boost
I really don't think the Genesis was supposed to be competing with the Rolls or Maseratis of the world as you seem to think.




BoredBored - 5/17/2008 3:36:26 PM
+4 Boost
@ TurboSpyder,

That review is actually misleading. The car tested was based on Korean market specs with the 3.8 V6. Apparently, Koreans like their cars to ride soft (think Buick). The US and European specs Genesis will be more to that reviewers liking and probably to yours as well.


olscuulolscuul - 5/17/2008 9:37:25 PM
+2 Boost
i asked what a 1990 ls400 with 190k that has been sitting in a garage for 4 years was worth.
the answer was 'nothing' as in no money.


sectorsector - 5/17/2008 10:17:20 PM
+2 Boost
He drove the base 3.3 V6 model with softer suspension and narrow tires, he seems to like the sound and the response of the engine. Then he makes a idiotic statement about how this car doesn't quite "feel" like a rwd car and that, turning off the VDC doesn't quite turn it off completely, then he goes on saying even if the VDC is "on", he detects the rear trying to "step out" huh? you just said this doesn't feel like a rwd car! what an idiot!

Personally, I'm very surprised how good this car looks, I even like the Aston Martin like double wing logo :) This truly will bring luxury for the common masses, and as Hyundais of late, it will be dead realiable.


TehShibbsTehShibbs - 5/19/2008 7:00:38 PM
+1 Boost
To quote 001:
"The Genesis is a better Avalon.

Nothin more.

So it's a very good car, just not even close to being a true competitor to the upper echelon.

End of story.

001"

If the Genesis is nothing more than a refined Avalon, what about the ES350 with is nothing more than a refined CAMRY?!? How does that compete with anything?

-Shibbs


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 5/17/2008 11:47:22 AM
0 Boost
I would probably go back to driving Fords. I can't do GM cars and am not a big fan of Chryslers. So for me it'd be a Mustang or maybe a Fusion or something.
T


Htay7500Htay7500 - 5/17/2008 11:59:04 AM
+2 Boost
I'd stick to mazdas and subarus and maybe GMs new offerings. Infiniti I'd get over a lexus.


CLK63BlackSeriesCLK63BlackSeries - 5/17/2008 12:16:39 PM
0 Boost
GTR.


garythepowersgarythepowers - 5/17/2008 12:21:11 PM
0 Boost
A Pontiac G8 GXP
or
A Mitsubishi Evo


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 12:24:15 PM
+5 Boost
Ah, our new agent seems to be fitting in well.

Posting a story with a built in bait for the crazy Lexus fanboys in hopes of a battle royale with the German only badge whores. Nice.

It is possible to have discussion without arguments.

And don't let your zeal for posting yet another "mine's better than yours" piece get in the way of old fashioned proof reading ("Acure"?).


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 12:44:05 PM
-4 Boost
May I ask what part of the article poised the "mine's better than yours" comment?

The question is not asked to start arguments, but rather to invoke thoughtful conversation and ideas.

In terms of my own personal zeal, it only proves that I am human, and excitable as well in my own mis-spelling of Acura. Please note it has been corrected.

In terms of the "crazy Lexus fanboys" I was warned on day on of them, and for the most part they tend to be as passionate about their marque, as the German fan boys are of theirs. That is what makes this site so much fun, and so entertaining.

I'll poise the question directly at you ANSWER, what would you drive???


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 1:18:34 PM
+6 Boost
mine is better than yours :

"Sure, all you Lexus fans out there are cheering the scenario, but lets face it, were it not for Mercedes and BMW, there probably wouldn't be a Lexus or Infiiniti either."

You're either blatantly trying to start a war/debate/futile exercise or are just supremely naive to the history and relative nature of this place.

That said, were American vehciles the only available choice, I would be happy owning a Caddy CTS or Lincoln's 2009 MKS. Both offer nice design and some nice tech bits.


vonbeelervonbeeler - 5/17/2008 3:20:35 PM
-1 Boost
Answer finally gives his input of prefering the MKS and CTS after 6 posts judging and crying with all his insecurities!! If you don't like others input maybe you should get back to mamas lap or in your crib. You sound like a spoiled only child that hasn't spent anytime around other people. Get off the computer and go outside. Try to make some friends.

I would go for CTS, G8, Corvette. Ford Flex looks pretty cool.


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 3:32:41 PM
-2 Boost
The fact that I note that were it not for Mercedes and BMW, there wouldn't be Lexus or Infiniti does not make me a fan boy or anything else. Whether you like it or not, read the literature both Lexus and Infiniti put out in 89-90 when TOYOTA and NISSAN launched the brands. The target at that point in time was MERCEDES BENZ and BMW.

So for me to make a statement that is based in fact does not make me a fan boy or bias or anything else. What is does is let you know that at least I have a modest handle on some automotive history.

Just for the record, I used to want a Lexus LS400 in the worst of ways, and at that time I was driving a BMW. So what kind of bias does that show???


answeranswer - 5/17/2008 3:48:49 PM
+6 Boost
vonbeeler,

At no point was I discussing my insecurities. I was merely mentioning the fact that this otherwise interesting post was marred by needless flame-baiting.

agentj,

Everyone knows that were it not for the Germans, much of what the automotive industry is today would far different. It is your need to mention that well known fact (for no relevant reason) that makes it either a biased or argument-inducing post.

If you don't like people acknowledging what you do, don't do it.


A8GermanA8German - 5/17/2008 12:45:36 PM
-1 Boost
I think I would probably go for the Grand Cherokee Srt8, or the F-150 Harley Davidson addition. I think that domestic brands generally produce quality trucks and muscle cars more than anything else.

Seeing that until recently jaguars have been Americanized, the new XF supercharged is an incredible car as well.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/17/2008 12:51:05 PM
0 Boost
Well, nothing would change for me. All of my cars aren't German anyway. But it would be a shame if BMW wasn't around. They're in my top three favorite vehicles.


mwrmmgmwrmmg - 5/17/2008 1:22:59 PM
+1 Boost
Honda... VTEC - one of the highest production specific output, Efficient, reliable, livable.

But GTR will be ultimate choice


FerrarisR4meFerrarisR4me - 5/17/2008 1:53:50 PM
0 Boost
A Gremlin... has anyone taken that one?


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 5/17/2008 2:33:12 PM
0 Boost
How about a Pacer


Agent00JAgent00J - 5/17/2008 3:37:47 PM
-6 Boost
Which is why I also listed the Pontiac and the Nissan. If we really wanted to get technical, we wouldn't have Bentley either as it is owned by VW and no Rolls Royce as BMW owns that one.

We could really split hairs and state that if a car has part made in Germany it doesn't qualify for this list, but that sure takes the fun out of it.

This is supposed to be fun I remind you.


2001W2102001W210 - 5/17/2008 2:21:44 PM
+1 Boost
Cadillac.


VISOVISO - 5/17/2008 2:25:43 PM
-1 Boost
Cadillac (which says alot about Cadillac domestically that it is on the radar of enthusiasts) for luxury sedan, and for a volume sedan the new Nissan Maxima.


BoredBored - 5/17/2008 4:01:35 PM
+2 Boost
That what the G8 is for


mercuryguymercuryguy - 5/17/2008 2:27:06 PM
-1 Boost
I would restore my 1928 Oakland,
and drive it to church on Sundays!

It has wood spoke wheels.



ChipChip - 5/17/2008 2:28:18 PM
+9 Boost
This site is SO going downhill. Im so sick of these stupid little posts. I barely even comment anymore because every article turns into an argument about something not related to the topic at hand and the boost-deboost rating system suggests that one person's opinion is superior or that one brand has more cheerleaders than the other etc. Now with the agent space, this is borderline Automobile MySpace.

What the hell happened to just giving us car news? All this other crap is lame.


WillisWillis - 5/17/2008 3:44:50 PM
+4 Boost
Agreed.

Why can't everyone just get along? On other boards/forums people respect each other and they most importantly respect other car brands.

Here on Autospies it's all about ______ vs ______ and [add car insult here]...


AE86AE86 - 5/17/2008 2:51:18 PM
0 Boost
2006 Evolution IX MR possibly an Evolution X GSR or maybe even the flappy paddle gearbox X MR.


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 5/17/2008 3:05:01 PM
+1 Boost
CTS or G8. Already have the CTS, so I guess a G8 will do.


MBKingMBKing - 5/17/2008 3:14:33 PM
-1 Boost
Lincoln Towncar...hands down


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 5/17/2008 3:21:42 PM
-1 Boost
Walk


AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 5/17/2008 3:31:22 PM
+2 Boost
Caddy CTS


BoredBored - 5/17/2008 3:57:14 PM
+2 Boost
Say Agent 00J, to really jack with people you should have excluded vehicles derived from German mfg. So no Mini, no Bentley, no Rolls-Royce or Bugatti or Pagani. Not even the Dodges you mention since they are on the old E-class chassis. I probably missed a car or two, but you get the point.

Anyway, I have a Grand Cherokee and a SLK and now that I'm pretty much over my mid-life crisis, I need to dump my Jeep for something more practical (notice that I'm keeping the SLK) especially in consideration of the U.S. increasing gas prices and recession. So my choices are:

Toyota Matrix
Subaru Outback or Forester
Hyundai Sonata
Honda Fit
Chevy Malibu or Saturn Aura
(Bonus: a pre-GM Saab or a pre-Ford Volvo)

On a side note, even if the U.S. really didn't have the German mfg, I still would love to see Fiat, Citroen Peugeot and Renault back!


mercuryguymercuryguy - 5/17/2008 4:04:02 PM
-9 Boost
MBKing - Lincoln Towncar...hands down

You just simply get a lot of car for the money.

One would need to spend nearly 6-figures to get this much car from the Germans.



atomicbriatomicbri - 5/18/2008 9:31:45 AM
+6 Boost
I think I just threw up a little....


mercuryguymercuryguy - 5/17/2008 4:23:07 PM
+1 Boost
There just aren’t any exotic American Builders anymore.

Packard, Pierce Arrow, Duisenberg, Auburn, Cord, Studebaker, Avanti.

I read that Studebaker tried to make a comeback in 2003, but GM sued them.

The big three forced these great car companies out of existence, perhaps they would have evolved to offer a better American product than what we have now.

That's the American Way, If somone builds a better mousetrap, just bury them under your strength and influence.



AudiphileAudiphile - 5/17/2008 4:42:14 PM
+1 Boost
As I am not filthy rich, I shall stick to "real-world" cars for my choices - no Bentleys or Ferraris here. As no German cars or Japanese luxury cars are allowed. This "short list" is really short!

Here goes, in alphabetical order:
1) Cadillac CTS;
2) Jaguar XF; and
3) Pontiac G8 GT.

By the way, Agent 00J, I see nothing wrong with your hypothetical question. It says something about GM's recent revitalization efforts that two of the cars on my short list are GM products. Come to think of it, the Caddy and Pontiac would be on my "short list" even if the Japanase luxury brands and all of the Germans were available.


AudiphileAudiphile - 5/19/2008 1:42:14 PM
+1 Boost
I must amend this "short list". I test-drove the Pontiac G8 GT this past Saturday. That Corvette engine is impressive, but the car lacks the refinement I have come to appreciate in my current car (Audi A8L).

The interior is crude compared to the Cadillac CTS and Jaguar XF, but the Pontiac costs quite a bit less so I shouldn't complain too much. However, there is no excuse for Pontiac not offering a navigation system on the G8. Also, the automatic transmission kickdowns slowly and harshly under hard acceleration. (That last criticism might have been because the car had only 230 miles on the odometer, thus not "broken in".)

As the rules for this game exclude Acuras, Lexuses (Lexi?) and Infinitis as well as German cars, I guess I would have to choose between the Cadillac CTS and the Jaguar XF.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/17/2008 4:51:15 PM
+1 Boost
Entry-level: Mazda3
Mid-sized: Subaru Legacy
Entry luxury: Saab 9-3 Turbo X
Mid-sized luxury: Cadillac CTS
Small SUV: Subaru Forester
Mid-sized SUV/crossover: Toyota Highlander
People mover: Ford Flex
Sports car: Chevrolet Corvette Z06


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/18/2008 11:44:04 AM
0 Boost
You can't get an Infiniti.


BmwVoyagerBmwVoyager - 5/17/2008 5:15:38 PM
-2 Boost
Cadillac Escalade


RupertRupert - 5/17/2008 5:50:58 PM
-2 Boost
Umm...A Volvo C70? I don't know... :S


CanadaCraigCanadaCraig - 5/17/2008 5:51:27 PM
-6 Boost
I would drive the car I own - a 2006 Chrysler 300C SRT8. If not that - I'd probably drive a Cadillac CTS-V. [The new one - with 550 h.p.] If not that - then a Nissan GT-R. But for the money - NO CAR comes close to the 300C SRT8. And if you don't agree - than I'll just have to assume that you have NEVER DRIVEN ONE!! [And I mean REALLY driven one - not just sat in one and complained about the 'materials' and cheap feeling ashtray or whatever] Craig


CanadaCraigCanadaCraig - 7/23/2008 5:04:48 AM
+1 Boost
6 negative 'boosts'!! LOL Let me guess - A lot of guys who have NEVER driven the 300C SRT8.


SteedPubSteedPub - 5/17/2008 6:18:42 PM
+4 Boost
What a glittering example of a Prius owner....... stuck up, arrogant, judgmental of others in a self righteous.

And as usual, offers only platitudes and mindless drivel with nothing substantial behind it.


ninenine - 5/17/2008 10:25:06 PM
0 Boost
Um, the Prius is probably the most try-hard vehicle ever. A 5 litre V8 from Mercedes wins the German Motor Environmental award, and the Prius is left in the dark.

Get rid of the Prius = end of story.


lexusis350lexusis350 - 5/18/2008 3:28:31 AM
+1 Boost
Like steedpub said, the Prius is basically nothing more than a hippie's way to brag about how they're "saving the air". It really isn't that great of a car. My brother can get the same gas mileage as the Prius in his '02 Civic and that actually has horsepower that exceeds 100.


Anybody but Obama for the vote!


DenaliDenali - 5/17/2008 6:12:12 PM
-2 Boost
ill take anyone

Dodge Charger R/t
Caddy STS, CTS, Escalade
Buick Lucerne, Enclave
Jaguar XF
Volvo s80


SteedPubSteedPub - 5/17/2008 6:15:36 PM
-2 Boost
Okay, Okay, Okay.

What about Mexican made German brands? Can I have one of those?


JUGNUJUGNU - 5/17/2008 6:29:36 PM
-1 Boost
Here in Middle East, Chevrolet offers a middle east only model, Chevrolet CSV CR8. It's limited to 100 units. well it's not even that exclusive as in other markets like in Australia it's sold/rebadged as Holden HSV and in Britain as Vauxhall something.

Btw it looks cool, and got 400BHP. My freind got one 2 months ago, it's number 81. I drove it 2, 3 times
and it was very aggressive very fun to drive but crude something like a Corvette myabe it was the interior.

so i think if all Germans, Japanese and other my favourie cars are not there i'll pick something like a CR8, Corvette...etc and something luxury/comfortable i'll pick some Cadillac.

JUGNU


SteedPubSteedPub - 5/17/2008 6:35:46 PM
-2 Boost
Nice that you can get that car there!


StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 5/17/2008 8:57:38 PM
-2 Boost
LEX GS 460.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 5/17/2008 9:56:20 PM
+1 Boost
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 or Cadillac XLR, Jaguar XF, or XK


ninenine - 5/17/2008 10:20:45 PM
-3 Boost
A bicycle sounds good.


devitocokedevitocoke - 5/17/2008 11:01:42 PM
-3 Boost
If there is no BMW, then... Ok the only other choice would be Honda, also fun to drive.


irie77irie77 - 5/17/2008 11:39:22 PM
+1 Boost
Cadillac CTS-V


irie77irie77 - 5/17/2008 11:41:08 PM
-1 Boost
...also Aston Martin AM V8


BentleyContinentalGtBentleyContinentalGt - 5/18/2008 1:35:03 AM
-4 Boost
horse or a bike


ubercoolubercool - 5/18/2008 5:42:48 AM
-4 Boost
Aston or Jaguar would be first the choice before German cars.


farabira1farabira1 - 5/18/2008 5:56:07 AM
-2 Boost
Obviously Jaguar XF, or probably the Cadillac CTS. If i have more money to spend, i would love to own the Aston Martin DBS, or a Ferrari F430.


atomicbriatomicbri - 5/18/2008 9:27:49 AM
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Ok here it goes.... what I decided to do was to compare cars I own now which is a BMW 335i sedan and a Volkswagen Rabbit 2.5 and came up with the following:
"in some strange parallel universe, there exists only Japanese and American car brands. I would purchase a Lexus IS350 for the packaging and it looks fairly decent and drives alright. For my hatch needs I would get a Mazda 3 5dr"

But THANK GOD I DO NOT LIVE IN THIS PARALLEL UNIVERSE! LOL!


BlakuraBlakura - 5/18/2008 11:16:58 AM
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Acura TL, its what I chose after spending 4 days driving a brand new 330i in 2005. Just offered the best bang for the buck at the time, still does with all things considered. fuel economy, reliability, resale value, features, looks, and with performance too.


09CTSVforMe09CTSVforMe - 5/18/2008 2:26:31 PM
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The same thing I drive when German cars ARE available.

irie77 I like your style!


irie77irie77 - 5/18/2008 7:41:39 PM
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Thanks! However I prefer yours as you're already doing this.:)


BarrieBarrie - 5/19/2008 4:47:23 AM
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maybe someone should ask what would you drive if there were no Japanese cars, with the competition they are getting now that may not be as silly as it sounds, at the moment I drive a BMW, great car, not the best car I`ve owned but very good and better than any Japanese car I`ve driven


BarrieBarrie - 5/19/2008 4:56:03 AM
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My next car is unlikely to be German and certainly won`t be Japanese, I`m looking at the new Seat with a 1.4 turbo diesel, mainly because it is a cheap and very economical car that is cheap to insure doesn`t cost a lot to register and can be driven in London without paying the congestion tax, also very good on the open road for long distances in Europe, if I was just driving around London I would be looking at a purely electric car


RupertRupert - 5/19/2008 9:49:30 AM
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We don't know for sure if Boris will let sub-120g/km cars free from the C charge yet, he hasn't said anything. He does seem to be anti-£25 charge though.


ninenine - 5/19/2008 5:03:34 AM
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Seriously speaking though, I'd get the Lexus LS 460 L or one of those rip off BMW X5's from China.


M53RM53R - 5/19/2008 7:24:10 AM
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A Mazda 6... or even better, wait for the Mazda Speed6


simmonsdpsimmonsdp - 5/19/2008 7:55:04 AM
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a bike or maybe a moped, but it has to be lowered..


993Turbo993Turbo - 5/19/2008 8:29:46 AM
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I think Corvette, maybe wait for the Camaro.

How about a CTS-V?


CorsisCorsis - 5/19/2008 10:26:31 AM
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Realistic: Hyundai Genesis Coupe

High end: Nissan GT-R


RedwoodRedwood - 5/19/2008 11:13:19 AM
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Some good choices off the top of my head: Pontiac G8 GT, Infiniti G35 Sport, Mazdaspeed3. If I fit in the Lexus IS-F or Corvette/Z06, those would be on the list.


CaraficionadoCaraficionado - 5/19/2008 12:42:15 PM
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I'd drive a Jap. I like Mazdas


kager911kager911 - 5/19/2008 1:17:01 PM
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Lexus IS or Nissan GTR. If money was a concern I would go for a used Pontiac GTO.


vman1013vman1013 - 5/19/2008 1:50:35 PM
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Jeep Cherokee SRT-8!! It's my daily driver and a fun one at that. I'm amazed at how fast it is!


speedmasterspeedmaster - 5/19/2008 2:30:39 PM
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easy answer.. drive british. E.G. Jaguar XF or Range Rover.


HantraHantra - 5/19/2008 3:27:09 PM
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You leave me with no choice. I would have to fly over to Regensburg heavily armed with a tactical team, break into the plant, kidnap some people that know how to run the equipment, and make them build me a 3 series.

Getting it home would be the hard part. ;-)


goochgooch - 5/19/2008 6:50:29 PM
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Acura TL-S.


bocabimmerbocabimmer - 5/19/2008 8:50:03 PM
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i'd get a bicycle...never get a jap car again....


xlr8xlr8 - 5/20/2008 9:48:52 AM
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no bmw...hmm...you can still drive one. A bavarian manure wagon :D just playin.


ShahanShahan - 5/20/2008 3:12:28 PM
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Ferrari would be the way to go if I could not have a German... Or maybe nissan skyline... or Range Rover


S2000VS911S2000VS911 - 5/22/2008 4:37:30 PM
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give up my 911 & drive s2000 on weekend, Accord for daily drive. If Mercedes,BMW,Audi & Porsche never exist in the world, NSX will be my Ultimate choice & MUST be Manual. New GTR is not in my list if it only come with paddle shift.


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