Pass The Crack Pipe Please! Lexus Prices The LF-A At $225,000

*Puff* *Puff*, pass on this one.

The article above says this "Ben Mitchell, corporate product planning manager for Lexus, confirmed that the price of the carbon-fiber supercar "will begin with a two." So yes they have confirmed!

HOLY CRAP is all i can say rite now.

$225,000 toyota yaris










just kidding :)

lmao

Finally,see some asian car worth for money...

for this price, You could have a GT-R and GT-R spec V. Then you would have to figure just how much you want to whip the LF-A's but. Do I want to do it by 3 seconds or 5 seconds? I pick two GT-R's over this anyday!

Take the SC430 as a great example... I dont think that the LF-A is even worth 67,000.... i do think that the lexus SC430 is worth about 40K and the LS460 is worth just about 31K... anyone up for an avalon?

the LF-A beat out both a Lambo and an Aston Martin at the recent race at Nurburgring.

RAN THEM INTO the ground! both were DNFs, while the lexus claimed 1st in the class.

Yeah, (putting aside having one and just selling it for the cash) I'd rather have an M3 or 335i for that matter.

Yes it beat the DNF's but you obviously didn't look at the results otherwise you would know that it was beat by a BMW 120d about a dozen M3's another dozen porsches, several 335i's along with some FORD FIESTA's and an ASTRA not much to be proud of!

This thing competes with Gallardo, F430, 911 GT2 etc, it's in the ballpark.

By price yes, by performance I doubt it!

Agent 009 now takes his bias into the future, giving us all test results that haven't even taken place yet.

Bravo.

I'm using the IS-F as a benchmark for entering a segment by Lexus.

An excellent attempt, but still 4th out of 4 cars in the segment.

HOWEVER, the IS-F is more of a skunkworks car than the LF-A, so I hope the LF-A does better.

Obviously at $225k it needs to be the best. I think Lexus realizes that.

Ouch. The carbon fiber clause rings the bling bell.

IF..... they ever get it built.

R8 V10 (525 bhp) anyday!

7:11 - McLaren F1 (out of production)
7:15 - Porsche 996 GT2 RS (out of production)
7:24 - LEXUS LF-A
7:28 - Pagani Zonda F
7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.32 - Porsche 997 GT2
7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR
7:37 - NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R 35
7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
7:40 - Porsche 997 Turbo
7:40 - Bugatti Veyron
7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410
7.42 - Corvette Z06
7.55 - Ferrari F430
7.56 - Lamborghini Gallardo

and don't forget, with the Lexus you'll get performance, looks and reliability :)

Lexus reliability has taken a hit as of late.

Name one Luxury brand thats more dependable than a Lexus? According to J.D. Power a reliable source lexus beats them all....So with a hit their still on TOP

And all these car listed, only the lexus LF-A will last past a 100,000 miles, with that being said the Lexus LF-A will be a "Super Car Legendary Masterpeice" to past on to generations to come.....

silver1- I believe lowly Buick has the same JD Power scores. Besides even Toyota admits (in a previous article posted here) that the customers report more personal issues with design as defects, rather than actual reliability issues. So even Toyota says reliability is not a big factor today.

I said Luxury car.... Buick is not a Luxury car nor a luxury brand.....
And where did you see that toyota said reliability is not a big factor today? Please show PROOF!

"silver1- I believe lowly Buick has the same JD Power scores. Besides even Toyota admits (in a previous article posted here) that the customers report more personal issues with design as defects, rather than actual reliability issues. So even Toyota says reliability is not a big factor today."

Toyota has mentioned there has been a decline in their overall quality level of late, but I don't think they have ever, nor would ever say reliability is not a big factor. I can't imagine any car company saying that.

And although "lowly Buick" and Lexus score comparitively, that's not as big of deal as Benz/Bimmer/Audi all placing below the Buick/Lexus rank is it?

"And all these car listed, only the lexus LF-A will last past a 100,000 miles"

The GT-R will last past 200k miles. Remember Wards has named that V6 to Wards top 10 list for the last 14 or 15 years.

"montyz81"

The GT-R is a nissan therefor is not a luxury car and will never last longer than any Lexus

Just because it is a "lexus" and not a Nissan? So does that mean the Lexus ES350 is going to last longer then a Toyota Camry because it says "Lexus" on it?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/official-nissan-gt-r-laps-nurburgring-in-7m-29s/

"montyz81"

thats absolutely correct. Luxury brands are modified for better high quality parts that will last longer. Even when building the cars at the plants the builder are more qualified than a non-luxury brand. Could you imagine the same type of builder build chevy vs Cadillac, or BMW vs Mini Coooper, or BMW vs. Rolls Royce, or VW vs. Audi, Mercedes vs.Maybach, or Maxima vs G35? And the answer to all these is no.

Luxury cars are build better and will last longer than a non-luxury car.

montyz81- that point will be academic. I SERIOUSLY doubt any LF-A will EVER be driven that many miles.

NIce results there. But a car with this kind of performance, reliability will hurt for sure.

NIce results there. But a car with this kind of performance, reliability will hurt for sure.

Wow,Silver1 telling D true.......

Lexus is just an over priced, over rated toyota that wants to keep up with the big boys. Every single innovation that has been done that dramatically put a dent in the auto industry has been done by europe. Lexus is for people that think they are driving all the cars above in that list. PERIOD. If you say it's a reliable car, then ok. So is a honda, minus the $200,000. Lexus is just a sheep in wolves clothing. Technologically it has achieved NOTHING. making your lights active with steering is not that big of a deal. AND, a few months ago I had heard a lexus commercial on the radio saying "doctors say you should get your heart rate up for good health, blah blah blah... so visit your lexus dealer". BMW had that same commercial when the e60 5 series came out YEARS ago. Not only does lexus bite off bmw's but they also help themselves to copying commercials. SAVE YOUR MONEY

225,00 for a toyota lol!!

Almost the same as saying $200k for a VW in Lamborghini's case.

The problem is can it walk the walk?

Ummm... Toyota created Lexus and based it's models on most of the same parts as their Toyota counterparts. VW and Lamborghini have a completely different relationship.

But if those parts work, who cares right?

valid point, answer. however, this would mean that if you wanted to, you could put casio parts in a rolex. after all, casio parts work just fine.

Actually, that would be a $200K Audi, not a $200K VW...

I know, I know, splitting hairs, but there is a difference. Audi owns Lamborghini, and its board members are the ones that call the shots with the brand. So far, I'm extremely happy with their direction.

Oh, Audi is genius Mr. S4. I am still down about my car being the same exact msrp as an R8 but not being able to get it because of the $50k mark-up.

911 turbo for me..... if i must waste 225,000 gallardo/f 430.

Except Lambo has a legacy for cars like this..
Toyota??????
VW did not create Lambo, and by the way, it belongs to Audi and not VW.

You have a point there.. It is always a uphill battle to do it in house.

Toyota did a great job with Lexus in general and it was in house.

True however they did it in a country that values posh over real performance gains. This is a whole nother animal here though. So far in every category Lexus competes in where performance is concerned overall they place at the bottom of the pack.

This does not mean they haven't targeted an untapped market here. If that is so, then they may teach us all a lesson.

TheBoss- LOL you think you have caught me there. My predictions (and they were VERY close) were for straight line performance only. As you are aware there is more than one aspect to consider and I was predicting theoretical 0-60 1/4 times.

You have to consider cornering, braking, and transient response. You can excel in a few of those and I dare say you may even be able to excel in all static tests, but when it goes on the track how well they all work together is the ultimate test. This is where many fail. They focus on the static tests not the overall package.

it belongs to VW kiddo, not audi.

car looks great but i am already tired of it and its not even out yet. 225k will be a bust i might pick a lexus over a ferrari yea right

$225K??? HUGE mistake. This should have been an Audi R8 Competitor price-wise, not a Lamborghini/Ferrari wannabe.

First you learn to crawl then you walk and then run. Good Luck Toyota.

Though the R8 will receive the V10. So, the R8 will further challenge in the super sports car arena. Lexus is overshooting with trying to start in this area.

That car doesn't look like a $225k car IMO. Expect slow sales, serious discounts, and a short product life cycle. Lexus needs to stick to luxury. They always seem to mess something up when it comes to sport.

The first year will be a sell out.. the remaining years are the question.

I agree with the part that Lexus should stick with Luxury. They do that very well. They do always screw up sport because their version of sport still feels luxury i.e. IS350.

sell out...because they'll only make two.

911 GT2 over this $225k imposter

GT2, though listing for $190k was just selling in the store window for $289.

Worth every penney. And I think it might just be a little under cost due to it's a super car with the lexus dependability, this will be the most reliable super car in world....

At no point in the edmunds.com story does it say anything about a "crackpipe". Please correct this post. It infers that edmunds story uses that term.

Agent 009, being a super Lexus hater aside, for that price point the LF-A really is going to have to deliver. I don't think they would release the car otherwise though.

Lexus knows this, and I'm sure is going to make this halo car worth the wait and years of hype.

answer- I no longer own a Lexus, but I have before. Personally they are great cars but the disadvantages to me outweigh their strong points. Oddly enough the only car in the last 20 years that have left me dead on the side of the road was a Lexus.

I would say if I was short term on these cars (IE: 4 years or less), they still would be considered, for a number of reasons. However personally for me only, they have yet released anything that sways me to the "dark side". My lack of affinity for the brand has been an acquired taste.

I agree that the current Lexus lineup doesn't get me too excited either.

The best looking Lexus was, and still is, the original SC400.

@ xdrive - WTF r u talking about, the GT-R is FUGLY, I would nvr choose a GT-R before a Porche or anything on that segment.

Now on 2 the LF-A, WTF where u expecting from a carbon fiber super-car. Lemme s-p-e-l-l that again, carbon-fiber-super-car. It doesnt matter where a car is from when its carbon fiber u r talking about, its the same ull find in other cars u dumm*sses. And, if the figures r right, this car is a great performer, not that im buying it, but still a gr8t performer, and im sure somebody would buy it... just not me.

Did you ever go to english class Chronoseus?

But 225,000 for an LF-A, I still don't think this car will ever go into production.

Just my opinion but...

I'm sorry, but first of all, how many Lexus enthusiasts are there out there? Secondly, how many Toyota enthusiasts are there out there? Thirdly, even if there are a ton (which I doubt there are) they most likely will not have that kind of coin to drop on a car. Fourthly, how many people are gonna spend that kind of money on a Lexus even if they are not a Lexus enthusiast? Lastly, it costs well more than the R8, and probably more than the R8 V-10 will when it comes out, so why wouldn't you get that, or even a Ferrari. Can you imagine sitting at a light and an F430 pulls up next to you and laughs because you could have had his car, but instead you are in a stupid Lexus? I would just leave it to the professional car companies that have been making supercars for years now!

Swap "Acura" for "Lexus" in your comment.

All was said about the NSX, but that turned out pretty well.

Alot of them....lets not forget that Lexus is the #1 Luxury brand in the almighty US and the most preferred US brand although it is name after the US: L: Luxury EX: EXport U: United S: States
And Toyota Camry is the #1 selling car in America for I don't know how many years because I lost count, and the toyota Corolla is the #1 selling car in the world.

So there are a lot of car enthusiast for Lex and Toyota. More than you can imagine...

Sorry “answer” I am just a girl in a boys world ;)

Nah, you're just an idiot.

Silver1- On Toyota's Corporate blog here is just the first response to Toyota/Lexus quality issues:

The brand with the worst score, by the way, had 170 problems per 100 vehicles, or 1.7 problems per vehicle. So from best to worst, that’s a difference of just 0.79 problems per vehicle for the first three months of ownership. This range has decreased dramatically during the last five years or so; most carmakers are doing a great job of delivering a trouble-free vehicle at the point of sale.

Alysha - I agree with you. At that price tag you want to best badge you can get, and Ferrari or Lambo trumps Lexus every time.

"All was said about the NSX, but that turned out pretty well."

The NSX did not cost more than a Ferrari.

the comment of the thread so far +++

For some reason; I just don't feel Acura will come out with a replacement for the NSX. I've thought many times about selling it, but when I take it out for a drive, those thought just fade into thin air :)

They must be crazy, nuts and full of De La Olla beans.

If want the best camera tripod you buy a carbon fibre Gitzo and a Really Right Stuff ballhead.

It's time for ToyLex to step away from the car business.

Their just waking up bro, it's far from over, this is just the beginning.....

Well I guess silver1 set the record straight with you EL34.... :-)

We have 9 orders for this car already !!! And all 9 of these customer's have/ or had anything that is been mentioned.

Lexus is not for the dreamers, but for people the are looking for true luxury/performance/and reliability !!

$5,000 gets your name on the list...
Who's next?

Me!!!!!!! I wish! :(

Do you 9 customers know it's going to cost 200K

they'll be asking for their money back when they find out it's $225k and they could get a Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Aston Martin for the same amount.

can I have U dealer address?

I would rather have the new Ferrari California GT :-)

If it can walk the walk with other cars for that price, then what is the problem? How can you fail or succeed if you never try?! (meaing, try to expand your market)

I think it works in reverse, though, when a luxury make tries to go down-market. People might have the impression that it dilutes the brand.

All you "imposter" and "just a Toyota" name callers should just grow up.

*meaning

LOL! so true!

meanwhile, as Lexus reaches ever further upmarket (there were naysayers too, over the $110k ls600hl which sold at 3x early projections), both bmw and mb are slumming DOWNmarket, diluting their brands with 1- and A-series!

lexus has snuck past mb in prestige, trailing only porsche and bmw. how much longer before it passes those two as well?

ChicaneShooter, you're missing something big.

BMW and Mercedes-Benz (and Audi, while you're at it) didn't create the A3, A-Class and 1 Series to "dilute" their good names. They weren't developed simply so that there could be cheaper cars in the lineup, oh no. The fact of the matter is, they're absolutely necessary. Think about it: in some parts of Europe, with narrow roads, small parking spaces and super-expensive gas, would you rather drive a small Honda/Toyota/Peugeot etc or a small Audi/BMW/Merc? Those cars aren't considered "cheap." They possess most, if not all, of the high-end qualities of their larger cousins and are very enjoyable to own.

Lexus will never be able to "surpass in time" the prestige of Porsche, BMW, Audi, Merc (no matter what a silly 30-person survey says) as long as they ignore the European market and stick with their one lagging diesel and no small cars. Prestige doesn't only lie in price and feature content. It lies in a great company, with great management. I would go drive a 1 Series or A3 before spouting off like an ignorant fool.

"Think about it: in some parts of Europe, with narrow roads, small parking spaces and super-expensive gas, would you rather drive a small Honda/Toyota/Peugeot etc or a small Audi/BMW/Merc? Those cars aren't considered "cheap." They possess most, if not all, of the high-end qualities of their larger cousins and are very enjoyable to own."

and thats where lexus seems to have trouble on in their european markets. I found the aand b-class to be quite a nice car and I'd rather see a 1 series hatch than a 1er coupe.

"lexus has snuck past mb in prestige, trailing only porsche and bmw. how much longer before it passes those two as well?" they haven't made any huge impact. and porsche and bmw aren't really that afraid.

Why did lexus try to make this kind of a jump? I was very seriously looking forward to an R8 competitor. I was thinking this thing would be like 125k. Like EL34 said, I'd take the new california from ferrari and have enough left over for an LS460

Well, maybe a GS. haha

Whatever people wanna say about the LF-A, you have to admit Toyota has balls for pricing it at $200,000+

They are out of their mind!!! Sorry but if I had the money that is not what I would buy. The styling so far is nothing special and hey will struggle to out perform a GTR at 1/3 the price.......HELLO!!!

I'm pretty sure when Acura introduce the NSX back in the 90's it was over 100k. It sold well when it was available, even though it was slightly underpowered compared to the others, it handled better and turned heads with its design. I still love seeing NSX's on the road, they sound great and perform awesome.

So whose to say Lexus cannot make a exotic car as well. The reason the NSX died out was because they never did anything different with it, ditched the flip up lamps, rounded some edges but kept the same engine and such, that is a big no no. So it died out and is now on the revival.

Are you sure Lexus is building this car to compete with Ferrari or to take on the NSX and put a nudge to Nissan to create an Infiniti version of the GT-R? Maybe they are creating a new segment for these guys that will reincarnate the BMW M1 to come to light.

Difference.... The NSX was called a Honda NSX around the world.
At the time Honda was doing extremely well in F1 and there is a long legacy of racing with Honda which translated into the NSX.

Lexus.... not so much.
That car will not do well outside the States...

the NSX was in the high $60s and low $70s. and it was a sales disaster.

The NSX was not a sales disaster.

It's initial sales were what was hurt by greedy dealer marukups.

"That car will not do well outside the States... "

Who gives a crap how much or where it sells.

Are you a shareholder?

If the car performs well, people like it, and god forbid it only sells well in the U.S. it will still be a success.

Weird how so many people love to write off a vehicle before it even comes out (GTR, LF-A, Genesis).

wow thats a chunk of change...well I cant afford one and niether can most the people here so I would quit your bitching....man I want a gt2 however that thing is fast lol.

suddenly a GTR seems like a bargain even at 90,000 haha!

they've got to be KIDDING.

you can get an M6 convertible AND an M5 sedan (both with equivalent 500hp V10 engines) for that money and still have enough left to buy your kid a mini.

and who in their right mind would take this over a ferrari or aston?

good thing they'll only make a handful.

An M5, M6 Cab and Cooper S actually sounds like a really awesome fleet. I would much rather have all that than one LF-A.

Idk. For some reason I think that this vehicle will NOT let anyone down. Even if the sticker indeed hits the 200K mark.

---off subject---

I got to ride in an IS-F this past weekend (#7 of 50 made?!?) and was quite impressed!!! (not enough room in the rear was about all I could REALLY complain about) Wish I could have actually got behind the wheel though!

The ES and LS (600hL model only) has been the only let down to me from Lexus recently...

What about the SC, GS, and LX? Whats wrong with the LS?

Oh... the HL... gotcha!

Hey morons, Ferraris are most overrated cars out there (BMW close 2nd). They only last a long time because owners invest thousands to keep them running and store them in heated rooms where they can baby it pose next to it.

You buy a Ferrari if you are the ultimate poser/badge whore. The car you do get is not that great, they're popular just because they have rich racing history (well deserved). Just look at the track times at Nordschleife, LF-A blitzes the track!

7:11 - McLaren F1 (out of production)
7:15 - Porsche 996 GT2 RS (out of production)
7:24 - LEXUS LF-A
7:28 - Pagani Zonda F
7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.32 - Porsche 997 GT2
7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR
7:37 - NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R 35
7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
7:40 - Porsche 997 Turbo
7:40 - Bugatti Veyron
7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410
7.42 - Corvette Z06
7.55 - Ferrari F430
7.56 - Lamborghini Gallardo


Buy a Ferrari if you are the ultimate poser with no imagination. oh and if you want to keep your hands worm :)

http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/ferrari/buy-a-ferrari-use-the-engine-for-warming-your-hands/

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/safety/ferrari-599-gtb-goes-up-in-flames-on-delivery-drive/

Buy the Lexus if you want to keep one hand warm, because you will never get the ass that the ferrari owner will get. ever. I have never had to take a second glance at a lexus. A ferrari will do it to me everytime. Oh, and it isnt that unreliable. How many ferraris have you owned? Ive known a few owners who bought the car second or even third hand and drive the thing 3 -4 times a week, which is a lot for a car like this. You dont have to buy the car to drive across the country. I would never drive the lexus lfa across the country, too many miles on a car that is worth 250k. Sounds pretty retarded to me. Oh, and quoting test mule times is also fairly lame. That car hasnt been confirmed to do anything at the nurburgring, so stuff those times up your ass. If you want to go by track times, lets throw up the Radicals times. Some of those are street legal.

Lexus drivers don't go around soliciting hookers, they have class and intelligence. You're right, that 7:24 may not be the final confirmed time - once the test mule camouflage comes off, it'll post even a better time :)

Lexus driver can't go around soliciting hookers, or as a matter of fact any other women. They are too old for their dick to get hard. Even Viagra can't help them.

that was funny :)
and true :)

The LF-A might be a great sports car, it might look, handle, and accelerate like the other exotics, but you do not just jump into this market. Lexus has forgotten how they eased into the premium market by offering all the luxury at a significant discount to build the name. They should have started with a 90-120K sports car with Lexus quality and supercar performance and worked their way up from there. You don't just jump into this market with no history.

And the Audi R8 had a history before it went on sale??? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

Completely different F1. Audi has a long racing history. I'm not some Audi nut but facts are facts.

Fact is, Audi the company has racing history but the R8 itself has NO history previously.

^Well, in this case, not only does the Lexus LF-A not have any racing history, but the Lexus brand has very, very little also.

Well I have not commented for a while, but this post is something that I need to express my opinion about. Surely the program folks at Lexus are smoking some serious bud if they think their brand can elevate its status by price. For starters, Toyota 'dependability' is currently headed in the direction of the crapper (hello new powertrains, platforms, etc.) so this supercar being a new foray should not assumed to be Toyota-like in terms of dependability. Next, the badge is a HUGE reason why people at this snack bracket buy these cars - it is not their 'only' vehicle so reliability is meaningless BTW - and at a dinner party it will still be uncool to say that they drive a Lexus which is still the child of Toyota. The reality is that the brand does not have the heritage or pedigree of the truly upper echelon brands. This vehicle MAY be the ultimate Lexus, but it does not rub shoulders with the elite like Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, Bugatti, etc. Regardless of the car, the brand does not carry the prestige necessary at this level of vehicle. Take a look inside the people driving an LS460, do you see those people headed into the LF-A. I don't think so.

Well this is a surprise.

If it "only" has 500hp as mentioned, it will be trashed by the VW Group trio (R8 V10, GT2 and LP560).

You cared enough to post in a story about it.

yeah, keep porking on those cabohydrate/fat rich meals... it ain't gonna do much for your longevity. There's a reason why some of the oldest people of the world reside in Japan, their food is superior :)

I dont believe that is accurate. I really like sushi, dont get me wrong, but to say that is why they live longer is a bit inaccurate. It def. cant be if you take into account the ramen noodles. Oh, and what about the fact that Japan has got more McDonalds per square mile than New York City? Japan has their fair share of garbage food. They also say that Mediteranean food is exceptionally good for you. Oh, and what about the ambrosia. jk on the ambrosia.

it IS TRUE that that japanese have the longest life spans. their diets ARE healthier. if any of you get to meet japanese folk, they all seem to look ~10 years younger than their real ages.

the no. of mcdonalds in japan doesn't mean they ALL dig big macs.

no, the largest concentration of Mickey D's are in Manhattan, 4 per square mile. and where can you find a man that has consumed 19,000 macs in his life? good ol' US of A.

Kinda makes the $79,995 + $40,000 dealer mark-up Shelby GT-500KR look like a smart value huh :)

Ah, you beat me to it..........

How can the LF-A PRICE RUMOR be overpriced, yet, the other cars in this range are not? They all seem to have similar performance as the LF-A (presumed so far) so why is one overpriced and one is not?

Compared to the new GT-R, it is, all of the 200,000+ cars are then, but not compared to a car in the SAME PRICE RANGE! A $225,000, no matter who makes it, is still OVERPRICED....

Even if it's only $100K, it's a huge mistake for Toyota when a Nissan GT-R can be had for less even if there is a dealer mark-up.

But this will be a low volume car anyway (just like the GT-R). It's got comparable performance of other supercars which helps. But they shouldn't be shooting for $200K plus right off the bat.

It will be quite interesting to see what the price actually turns out to be.

Whatever it actually ends up being, at least it will give people something to argue about.

It looks cool and all....but WHY THE HELL WOULD I BUY A LEXUS RACE-CAR/GT whatever you want to call it?

If i'm going to spend that much money on a car I'd buy a n F430, Gallardo, or a wait for the 10 cylinder R8.

Or if you are really smart you'd just get an M5 and bring 4 friends along for the ride.

No one that can afford a Lambo, Ferrari, or any 200K+ car is going to by a Nissan. The GT-R is a great car but it is what it is! A great Nissan.

225000 USD. WOW. That's 599 GTB category. I am sure that car will be something really special. I think maybe Lexus took that long because they had some records in sight. Maybe they wanted it to be the fastest or 2nd fatsest car or make some other peformance record, something like that.

In short if LF-A performs better than the GT-R and with looks very near to the concept and great interior, it will be worth it.

can't wait.

and people who says overprice, actually the real overprice cars are that underperforming SLR, SL65s...etc. only good in straight line speed.

JUGNU

Hey, I think your camel just left without you......

that was funny. ; )

that was funny. ; )

yeah,,,,but he said under performing SLR and SL65,,,now he's very funny.........not

"and people who says overprice, actually the real overprice cars are that underperforming SLR, SL65s...etc. only good in straight line speed."

Uh, you know we're talking about Lexus right now, yeah?

Personally, if they have done their homework, it would be great to see them on top. Actually with 5 years of testing I hope they might have figured it out by now.

I hope for their sake that they hit dead on. The IS-F was very close and it was brought in under the radar. There is no excuse for the LF-A to really fall short with this much time and effort.

I expect they will at least scare the heck out of the others.

how much of used Carrera GT ?

Um,,,I'll stay with buying another house,,,,

Amen.

They make an impact in my community. Every bubble-headed realtor with big hair, too much make-up, and nothing to do has one.

It is the official car of the bubble-headed realtor with big hair and nothing to do but look pretty.

ATTENTION AUTOSPIES: If you want a larger demographic and grow your site so it will be much more profitable, Don't make posts that will alienate potential returning readers... Unless that's what you want. If so, add an about page that says we only like Eurocars here. All else is trash. Don't market yourselves as an enthusiast site. Or equally as good, less Agent009 posts and more objective agent posts? The title is just inflammatory and it's not even in the article.

Anyways,

First of all, Rich people (millionaires?) who spend money on Exotics like the LFA don't give a chit if it's $150k or $250k. They want a car that is reasonably fast, looks hot (I do think the convertable LFA is sex on wheels), and rare.

The people complaining here are probably people making less than $300k a year. This car is made of Carbon Fiber. It will most likely be hand built for each owner and come in limited quantities (i.e EXOTIC).

Also, we don't even know the specs on the car yet and people are blasting it for how slow it will be compared to cars like the GTR or the Ferraris. Dude, wake up, Most Ferraris are not the fastest cars around. GT2 is not the fastest car around. You can play around with a grand national and get 1000HP on it. You could buy a Z06 and it'd be faster than most exotics. That's not the point.

Third. You're all a bunch of whiny poor people... LOL. OK i'm poor too, but i'm not whiny.

LF-A being carbon fiber instead of aluminum, this should really be similarily priced to a Carrera GT or a McLaren SLR! ($500k), so $225k is the bargain of the century :)

you're right, someone rich enough to buy a $225k Lexus is probably also rich enough to buy a $225k Ferrari, a $225k Lambo, and a $225k Aston to go along with it.

That isn't the point most people are making though, the point they're making is that if you had to choose ONE of those $225k cars, why would someone choose the Lexus? Those buyers don't care how fast around the 'Ring the cars are, they're buying for prestige and image. A Lexus doesn't have that compared to those brands, period. That doesn't mean the LF-A isn't an amazing car, it's just a simple fact. Lexus isn't Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Aston Martin. And my guess is some of those very wealthy potential owners will take umbrage at the idea of driving their "exotic" into a dealership service department alongside teenagers in their 8 year old IS's.

Image. Prestige. Lexus has some, but not $225k worth.

if there is any truth to this price rumor, I wish Lexus the best, but they might want to bring this car out sooner rather than later because it is getting old news, kinda like the Camaro...

So much for all the people on here that insisted it would cost ~$130,000. I knew you were dreaming.

Love how you guys keep bringing up the "unofficial" ring time of the LF-A.

Lets see what it does when a independent firm test it on the Nurburgring.

Just like when AutoSport tested the GT-R, they couldn't even come close to the over-inflated factory claim of 7:38.

7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07)

And yes the 7:38 time was also done on a partially wet circuit.

Well the time for the GT-R is not true as it had a rolling start.
Times are done from a stand still...

Ok, I fell for it, too. But remember guys, this is a RUMOR...How many times have we got photoshops of "the next M3" and so on, and how many of them were wrong...%99 of them.

This could be some misdirection from who knows who, and this car could cost less when it's announced, so I will alter my opinion and say "Let's wait and see".

This is like arguing who would win in an arm wrestling match, a snake or a worm...........there is no answer.

220.000 $ ? The LF-A does not worth for half of it.
No stye, ordinary brand, no heritage ...
Lexus should cancel the "F" projects (IS-F, LF-A...) and go back to original strategies.

I'll get a gtr and a z06 for that price with the remaining for mods.

Or, you could get a Z06 and a GT-R for this price, with the remainder for mods.

good choice!

good choice!

the LF-A beat out both a Lambo and an Aston Martin at the recent race at Nurburgring.

RAN THEM INTO the ground! both were DNFs, while the lexus claimed 1st in the class.

lexus may not have a long racing history. the LF-A's is even shorter. but so far, it's a PERFECT 1/1.

i'd say people WILL be willing to pay $220K for this supercar. MORE reliable than lambos or astons.

"i'd say people WILL be willing to pay $220K for this supercar. MORE reliable than lambos or astons."

And that's exactly what makes people lust for sports cars. RELIABILITY. Right on!

the price is not outrageous.

seems i saw somewhere that in china, the ls600hl was selling for over $150k, and the lf-a was close to if not over $200k.
(altho' i didn't think the lf-a was even on sale at the time that was written. it COULD have been projected price, and dealers were taking early orders.)

with the number of new billionaires popping up in china every week, it seems those were perfectly reasonable prices there.

You can't just convert prices in other countries into American dollars - for example, the S65 AMG in Britain is nearly 300,000 dollars (145,000 pounds), and the LS600h is 160000 dollars (85,000 pounds). You can't use your own judgment of how much something is worth in another country based on the exchange rate. If the LF-A is 225000 dollars in the USA, in Britain it will most likely be around 160,000 pounds, or 320,000 dollars. Way overpriced.

"seems i saw somewhere that in china, the ls600hl was selling for over $150k, and the lf-a was close to if not over $200k.
(altho' i didn't think the lf-a was even on sale at the time that was written. it COULD have been projected price, and dealers were taking early orders.)

with the number of new billionaires popping up in china every week, it seems those were perfectly reasonable prices there."

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you are making no sense at all. rupert has definetly hit the nail.

"seems i saw somewhere that in china, the ls600hl was selling for over $150k, and the lf-a was close to if not over $200k.
(altho' i didn't think the lf-a was even on sale at the time that was written. it COULD have been projected price, and dealers were taking early orders.)

with the number of new billionaires popping up in china every week, it seems those were perfectly reasonable prices there."

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you are making no sense at all. rupert has definetly hit the nail.

First there was the GTR

Now The LFA

Next NSX replacement

The supercar league will be shaken.

Exciting times for all of us.....

Wasn't a $70,000 Nissan GT-R considered outrageous by so many people here?

Maybe for the GT-R but not for the LF-A. Considering that price tag it should technically perform better or on par with the GT-R. Don't forget Lexus has a bad history with coupes. That's why they stick with their trucks and sedans it's the safer way to go.

Eitherway it's gonna be hard to convince buyers to fork out 200K for a Lexus.

Crazier than a loon.

honestly, who cares. the lf-a looks great to people who like lexus. it will perform at or close to the performance of the other super cars. I say, let them come out with it, charge $225k for it and see who buys it.

It will either have the success of the R8 or be a bust like the Phaeton. Unfortunately for Lexus by pricing the LF-A at $225k there is no middle ground. Bust or Boom for this puppy.

Lexus has a lot to lose and nothing to gain from this strategy. The LF-A will never have the following Ferrari or Lamborgini has in the first life cycle. The R8 doesn't even have that kind of following, the NSX barely has that following.

I agree that Lexus should've priced this in the low $100's and made the argument they grew on which was look at what you are getting for your $$$. Then let the next generation and generation after that creep up in price and performance until the reputation is solidified.

It's the most expensive and exotic product from a luxury carmaker. Believe it or not, cars with exactly these ccharacteristics become instantly sought after, disregarding nearly everything else.

The people on this website always question whether or not a new Lexus model will sell. Has time taught you nothing? It will sell. The most aspirational goal of this car is to build up brand recognition in the exotic wing of the automotive market, not to please a bunch of penny-pinching European car owners.

The End.

ITS GOING TO SELL...FACT

it will outsell/out perform SLR/VW trio, hold up nissan did that already lol

How can you say stupid things like that when NOTHING--literally, NOTHING--about this car has been confirmed by Lexus yet?

I love Lexus, but that's over priced. I worked for the company for 5 1/2 years and I believe they are the best mass production company out there, they truly do, do it right from the start. But the only, and I mean the only way you could justify that price, is if it is absolutely aproblematic, and it sounds like a F1 car. Otherwise, it's a $150k. Oh, and maybe if it were hybrid, that would be worth a few extra bucks also.

I'd also like to add..... Lexus is right up there with the best of them, but they are not in the Exotic arena yet, and that's exotic pricing. The GTR will blow the doors off that car, and it is not that expensive. Even though the LF-A will be way more luxurious, the luxury does not compensate for the price and good (not great) performance. It is a hot car though!

this car *should* be priced at 175K

its clear what they are trying to do. they want to make the brand more prestigious by charging more.

to those who say it should be in the low 100s are crazy. all carbon fiber body...it cant be close to the LS600Hl. its so much better than the LS...

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Who would spend 225k for a Lexus? Well, people are already forking over 100k for a Lexus (LS600h) so what's a 100 grand more to the rich. Whether you agree or not, the rich do consider Lexus to be a premium brand.

I drive a Lexus but also have a Merc. I consider Lexus a premium brand. Although I don't think they are as prestigious..but that doesn't matter. They are what they are and it's been proven that they sell and are a hit among Americans consumers.

Japanese cars are for people who cannot afford German cars. No one can honestly say they would pick a Lexus over a Benz or BMW. Who would pick a rice burner over a European exotic. Morons. Lexus should stick to making anonymous appliances.

You comment has about 5 sentences. All of them are not only embarassingly stupid, they also have been proven incorrect.

Actually as a German fan, I can say that many have purchased a Lexus and jumped ship from the likes of Cadillac, BMW, & Mercedes. For pricing, comfort, and the reliability.

Lexus is far from the Big 3 of Germany in a world wide scale but in US soil they are dominant. Don't forget this brand was designed to take on the US Market and they have been very successful. If you live elsewhere then perhaps you could say people would buy a German over a Japanese car but if you live in the North America (Primarily in the States) you can't ignore the fact that Toyota's are everywhere. Japanese cars in general actually.

I'm sorry. Not many will pay that much for a Lexus. I'm sorry but the world has not come to this...$200K Lexus cars. That price range is dominated by the Germans and Italians we all know that. It's a price range the Japanese can't touch.

Their probably trying to upmarket themselves trying to fit in the with the rest. However, when I think about it. Audi has a perfectly capable R8 and their V10 coming out so that would be my choice.

The GT-R is the ultimate import car not the LF-A. Hands down.

lmao, who on earth would want to spend all that money on a lexus, simply riddiculous... for that money you can be aiming at more prestigious brands and cars such as lambos, ferraris etc...and brands that know what they're doing in the supercar segment

LMAO!!!

$200,000 FOR A ................ LEXUS.

Why would anybody spend more than $50,000 on a Toyota,..oops Lexus?

Expect the car to be discontinued shortly after release.

V-10 NSX and by the way Acura ranked higher than Lexus this past year in reliability in several sources Silver1!

I don't think the NSX would be in the same category as the LF-A. The LF-A is more luxury based whereas the NSX and the likes of GT-R are in the more sporty driving experience.

Not to doubt Lexus with the LF-A since they created a very capable IS-F but their Soarer and SC430 haven't gained any recognition as decent handling cars or best styled for that matter.

BUT!

There will be those fan boys who stay loyal and pick up one of these. I don't doubt it's going to be built well and it looks decent IMO. But the price tag should be strategically priced to go head to head against a Merc SL or a BMW 6er. There's no way Lexus can ignore it's direct competition and want to go head-to-head with Germany & Italy's best.

I wrote about this a month before this even was mentioned on Insideline.

On sale date: 2009 [Q3]
Production Units: Limited to 500 units, 150 assigned to JDM.
Price: 30 million JPY (around 300K USD)

http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/leaked-lexus-lf-on-sale-in-q3-2009.html

300K USD! even more ridiculous. It's a pretty big risk for a consumer to fork out that kind of money on a brand that hasn't been too great with producing great coupes or sports cars. Not a great track record to set the price tag that high.