Cars.com Rates Toyota Tundra more "American" than Ram AND Silverado

Cars.com Rates Toyota Tundra more
The Toyota Tundra (made in Indiana and Texas) is ranked the 2nd most American made truck, just behind the Ford F150, according to Cars.com.

GM's axle strike earlier this year had an unintended consequence - as Chevy shifted truck production to Mexico, they decreased their truck's domestic content enough to make the Tundra more American. The Ram and the Silverado are now about 25% made in Mexico (according to their federally mandated domestic content stickers).

So, if you drive a 2008 Ram or Silverado, please affix "Made in Mexico" stickers to about 25% of your truck. Then, please stop talking about how the Tundra is a Japanese truck.
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bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/28/2008 4:38:07 PM
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what country does the profits go to for the Tundra?


M35MTM35MT - 7/28/2008 4:52:11 PM
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It's reverse outsourcing, if you will, as in this time we're getting more jobs from a foreign corporation versus an American corp sending the jobs overseas.

Yes the profits goto Japan but they still have to pay the American workers and the property taxes to the US Government and the State of Indiana.


ghosthunterghosthunter - 7/28/2008 4:52:52 PM
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if you are talking about 500~1000 dollar profit per car, then about 60% of that amount goes to toyota head quarter in japan or northamerica.
if you are talking about the rest 25000~30000 dollar that you payed to the dealrship, they stay here in U.S. and are payed to the U.S. employees and other U.S. companies.

so if you buying a Tundra that is made in U.S, you are doing much more contribuiton to the people in U.S. than buying a silverado that is made in mexico.


NItePhireNItePhire - 7/28/2008 4:53:42 PM
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Amen Brother!!


NItePhireNItePhire - 7/28/2008 4:55:06 PM
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I meant Amen to the first comment not the last. How exactly do you know that 60 percent stays here.


ghosthunterghosthunter - 7/28/2008 5:18:55 PM
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because if you run a business, that's how much tax you have to pay if you are making profit.

btw, one popular misunderstanding is car manufacture makes much money per car. that statement is true for some, but is false for many. porsche makes average of around 30k per car, but Ford only makes 200 dollar per car, toyota makes average of 2400 per car, but they are not making much profit on the Tundra. they are lucky to make 500 per tundra, if they are not losing money on them.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/29/2008 12:17:53 AM
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oh and for the record if you really think any Auto maker is making such a small amount of profit on these full size trucks your crazy, they are big profit centers, not to mention a dealership's markup is no where near that of the cost of a vehicle were talking some 3-6,000 depending on the car/truck maybe less on some makes over the cost the dealer paid for it I can promise you the dealer paide more than just $500 over the price that it cost to build a full size truck hence the room for incentives, but hey anything to justify such a rediculous argument right??


Agent63Agent63 - 7/29/2008 1:02:43 AM
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what's "paide" ? :P


NItePhireNItePhire - 7/28/2008 5:02:01 PM
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"American", what exactly does that mean anyway. If you mean made in the USA then ok say it, but to say that its more more American then the others thats not totally true. Well lets see there are two Americas, North and South. Last time I checked both Canada and Mexico were in North America along with the U.S.. Toyota, Nissan, Honda and the like make cars and trucks in the U.S. but are NOT U.S. Companies by any stretch of the imagination.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/29/2008 12:13:45 AM
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wow, i didnt realize this was a thread about BMW, oh Im sorry your one of the people that has to work either BMW(something negative) or Lexus, into every article on here it actually is quite pitiful.............now here is the part thats so ironic lol and just goes to show my disgust for ignorrance for one Toyota has the decency to give Americans jobs????? where is the Z4, X5, and X6 produced and have been since inception. Where was the Z3 built.....NEWS FLASH FOR THE GUY THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR THE PAST DECADE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.....whats even more ironic(and sad) is people actually boosted this comment..how pitiful that so many call themselves car enthusiasts and dont know such a simple fact that many average consumers know.......lol and its your type that are sold on the whole Tundra is more American thing........ignorrant


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/29/2008 12:14:47 AM
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wow didnt know BMW has a plant in the US......


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/29/2008 12:15:17 AM
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i guess they are more American than many of GM's cars also


EL34EL34 - 7/29/2008 1:03:32 AM
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The Tundra is not an American lookin' truck.


truckmentruckmen - 7/29/2008 4:38:50 AM
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I would consider the Tundra if they fixed the frame and had an off road version that didn't only come with stickers and shocks. Something to compete with the
2009 F-150 Ford Rapture
that has 12 inches of wheel travel ...


truckmentruckmen - 7/29/2008 4:42:15 AM
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My friends jeep had a tranny made in mexico and they were known to be junk! So what does that say about Chev and Dodge? I wouldn't trust anything made there other than Tequila or a poncho.


Agent63Agent63 - 7/29/2008 8:50:19 AM
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I liked the Nissan Titan. It had bold appearance and the name just screams respect. "I drive a Titan" vs. "I drive a Tundra".


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/29/2008 10:06:51 AM
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better grab a Titan quick,,, 2010 is the last year of production


Agent63Agent63 - 7/29/2008 8:35:24 PM
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The only trucks I like is the F150 Harley Davidson edition and the Dodge SRT10. However, I would never get a truck.


kpaxxkpaxx - 7/29/2008 9:14:08 AM
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This article is social psychological engineering to make you think your purchases of foreign products help the US economy. It is the japanese company making profit.


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 7/29/2008 10:10:26 AM
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Tundra , american as mom's apple pie? That would net you a wack to the head with mom's rolling pin in most cases


neutralneutral - 7/29/2008 1:18:30 PM
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American as mom's apple pie, except for the fact that its Japanese.

Anyways, I was talking about this yesterday with a friend, what constitutes a "part". For example, if I have 2 parts to examine, a simple washer and an entire engine. Does that count as 2 parts?

Its hard to gauge exactly how much of anything is from one country. Take a computer, hard drive is from china, RAM is from Taiwan, monitor might be china, and the CPU is from silicon valley. Final assembly is probably in China...does that make it a chinese computer...or an American PC b/c it is made for Dell?

Articles like this are annoying, public perception makes you "American as apple pie", and as hard as toyota/honda try, people still think of them as the Japanese. Hell, they should be happy about that... public perception (mistakedly) dictates that all domestics are crap.


rockerrocker - 7/29/2008 3:39:44 PM
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Tundra - Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field. Tacoma - Washington? Nope, still doesn't sound AMERICAN. Silverado - old West, that's AMERICAN.


NItePhireNItePhire - 8/1/2008 1:14:25 PM
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You folks who believe that Honda/Toy/Nissan are American companies are idiots.


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