SOUND OFF: Are You You Being Branded By The Car You Drive?

G37- Since I don't have a wife and kids yet, I'm trying to enjoy the Sporty Coupes as much as I can. I basically chose it for the car that it is rather than what it says about me.

So what made you choose such a terible car then? Did you not test drive anything else in that price range? I'm just curios why somebody would end up with a glorified Nissan G37 tractor when great cars like BMW 335i, Mercedes C350, Audi A4 3.2 and even Lexus IS350 are available. Why end up with a ghettomobile like the Nissan G37 rattle box when you can do so much better? Anyway, sorry to hear that you wasted your money on such inferior product.

SHUT UP

That G is sweet!! Please ban Star!

Two can play that silly game of a car branding it's owner. An owner can use a car to make a political statement such as patriotism by buying a domestic or by driving a tiny death trap if one is a greenie. One can take it a step further by getting a custom license plate to express life style, sexual needs or whatever.

Nothing left to say Star?

Ha, ha, ha...same team of mumbling idiots getting their panties twisted when the Nissan tractor is criticized. Get a life kiddies.

Star,

C350 and A4 are sweet sedans but I want to still enjoy coupes as I stated before. The G37 also out handles and blows the doors off of these 2.

335i is a great car but similarly equipped as my G, would have costed me an additional 10k.

Also, with a sharper steering ratio, stiffer suspenssion, and LSD differential, the G37 has a sportier feel to it. Need I say more?

What puzzles me is why you've developed such hate towards this car...cuz we both know what ur saying makes absolutely no sense!

showtime,

The ride in the G37 doesn't even resemble something sporty. This car is an abomination that handles like a school bus and has an engine that I'm sure was designed initially to be used in a tractor but by mistake ended up in this two door rebadged economy car. I don't hate Infiniti or any other car brand (that's a ridiculous accusation) but that doesn't mean I don't have likes and dislikes based on the quality of various brands.

Infiniti builds rattle boxes that feel underpowered and heavy. I do dislike them because they are cheaply built, overpriced and offer a really boring ride. An econobox like EVO makes up for the bad build quality by offering a fun ride at least. The G37 doesn't give you ANYTHING. It is one of the most boring cars ever built and unlike with Lexus you don't get neither reliability nor good service.

I wish I could say that the G37 is a good car, believe me, I would. But I simply can't. Is just that big of a POS.

Right, and what do you say to all these people that dissagree with you? That they don't know anything about cars? You're way off buddy...Way way off.

If you want your opinion taken a little more seriously then don't talk nonsense about how it handles like a school bus when it has a slalom of over 71mph, or say it's a rattle box when I don't hear one rattle on the car and actually feels very solid.

0-60 in 5.3 feels heavy and underpowered to you? What do you drive? an Enzo Ferrari? doubt it!

Maybe I should take you for a spin in it and get your heart rate up to 135 like 5th gear did to those chicks...and then u can tell me what a hell of a tractor it feels.

showtime,

What do I tell to the people that disagree with me? I tell them to go **** themselves. Why? Because I know cars, these people don't.
Now let me tell you about the G37:

-the manual transmission is notchy.
-the clutch travel is way too big and takes really strong muscles to work(depress) it.
-the car vibrates badly at idle(like a tractor)
-the brakes are noisy and the feel is horrible.
-the acceleration is underwhelming. The car feels extremely anemic under 5000 RPM(usable range in day to day traffic).
-the engine is extremely noisy and the amount of vibration under moderate or hard acceleration is unacceptable for a modern car.
-the exhaust note is too similar to an industrial vacuum cleaner
-the suspension is noisy and is extremely harsh over bumps in spite of feeling too soft when cornering
- the car is extremely nose heavy and it corners worst than anything I've ever driven
-the interior is extremely cramped(smaller than a 1 series BMW) in spite of the generous(read bulky) exterior size of this car.
-the car has the same build quality as a Kia Rio and rattles like there is no tomorrow.

By the way if you think G37 is a fast car you never been in a fast car before. A GTI feels faster than a G37 and in 99% of the situations it actually is faster.
But you and the other clueless fanbois can keep looking at specs on paper and think that they paint the whole picture. The G37 is the only car I drove that is claimed to have more than 300 HP but feels like a 170 HP car.
The BMW, Mercedes or VW horses seem to be a lot stronger. I wonder what do they feed those freaky German horses to make them so much more powerful than the Japanese ponies.

GTI?? LOL!!...4get GTI, I whipped the new R32 about 2 weeks ago on the highway. Poor guy kept tempting me to race him so I finally gave in...I beat him so badly that I didn't even bother to put on the blinkers cuz I was so far ahead that I figured he wouldn't be able to see them.

So get your nose heavy FWD GTI and then come talk to me, I'll do rings around you all day long.


Now lets get back to your list cuz I do appreciate the effort you've put into it...

-the manual transmission is notchy. (yes, could be better)
-the clutch travel is way too big and takes really strong muscles to work(depress) it. (overexaggerating)
-the car vibrates badly at idle(like a tractor) (false)
-the brakes are noisy and the feel is horrible. (false, no noise for me what so ever and full of stopping power but not as responsive as the 3 series but I don't have to clean my wheels every other day either so that's fine for me...lets not forget the calipers look 10 times better)
-the acceleration is underwhelming. The car feels extremely anemic under 5000 RPM(usable range in day to day traffic). (false, if you view the dyno chart it clearly shows that you get 90% tque at 2500rpm and 95%tqe as early as 3000rpm)
-the engine is extremely noisy and the amount of vibration under moderate or hard acceleration is unacceptable for a modern car. (engine noise and vibration could be lower but not extreme as you call it)
-the exhaust note is too similar to an industrial vacuum cleaner (false, the exhaust note is one of the highest compliments I get on the car, and I love it!)
-the suspension is noisy and is extremely harsh over bumps in spite of feeling too soft when cornering (false, it is exactly the oppossite of what you just said)
- the car is extremely nose heavy and it corners worst than anything I've ever driven (false, you're simply buggin!)
-the interior is extremely cramped(smaller than a 1 series BMW) in spite of the generous(read bulky) exterior size of this car. (false, it is a coupe and for the front 2 passengers it has plenty of room, less headroom in the back due to stylish sloping roofline, what a true coupe is all about!)
-the car has the same build quality as a Kia Rio and rattles like there is no tomorrow. (did you just pull this out of ur a$$??)

Go read a book or something...it's healthy for your brain to learn a thing or two from others...instead of just spitting crap out of ur mouth.

The G37 is a joke. Accepted and move on with your life.

I mean accept it.

whoah calm down there star you might bust a nut

i knew this post would cause fights but..WOW

Good choice. Whenever I see one on the road I can't help to do a double take because it looks hot!! It is one of the few aggressive and masculine looking coupes out there today.

328xi Coupe. I didn't purchase it to make a statement or to fit an image shown in a commerical. Instead this car best met my needs at the time including:
1) 6MT with AWD (for New England winters).
2) Fold down seats for skis, boat cushions, sail bags, fishing rods, etc.
3) Fun to drive and sporty. With no wife or kids yet, having just two doors isn't that big of a deal.

S4 - Practicality in the best all around package, imo. I had to have something big enough to tote my hockey gear and rear doors for my dog. 009, you say true quality, I think it's more luxorious sensibility.

you have a good point.

Audi S4 Avant wagon. Sleeper, thinker, grocery hauler, chiped and tuned to almost 400 hp. Able to keep up with most performance coupes on a dry day-blows em away on a nice wet day!

thats pretty stupid btw

that's a nice sentiment. My $0.02 -- we grew up as a Ford family. Always had Lincolns and Fords, my first car was a Mustang GT convertible and I loved it. Now that I'm older, however, my views have changed. Aside from the fact that most of their products are inferior (not all, but most), if those American manufacturers are just going to mismanage my money and piss it away (and in the case of GM outsource factories to Canada and Mexico anyway), I don't feel obliged to give it to them just because "they're an American company". Which they're not really anymore. So my money goes to whoever makes the car that I want in my pricerange.

Being American is about buying the best product with your money. Patriotism is being misused for all the wrong reasons.

Htay7500 "Being American is about buying the best product with your money"

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.....Comedy Gold. Oh man, I almost choked laughing...That's the funniest thing I've read in a while. Thanks for the laugh....Ha, ha, ha...You kill me man. I cannot stop laughing....Ha, ha, ha....

^^Wow. You sound like a stoned kid with that comment. Are you high? Do you have anything to contribute to society? This is a car forum, not a facebook picture.

Htay7500,

you are absolutely text book case of a brainwashed young man who is so disconnected from reality that there is not even a slight chance for recovery. Are you telling me that you actually believe the c**p you write? Americans are known all over the world as the dumbest buyers on the planet. That's common knowledge.
Nowhere else people use their money as badly as people do here. Period!

Contribution to society??? Are you on drugs? What exactly is YOUR contribution to society? Wasting your time on online forums and bitching about things you don't know anything? Let me tell you something. Your car knowledge equals a big ZERO. All the things you THINK you know about cars are not REAL. What you think you know is c**p publicised with the intent to brainwash you. You are a tool and you don't even realise it. You argue with someone like me who has information first hand and think that I'm wrong? Based on what? On what you read in some stupid mags?Wake up ...Oh, never mind is too late for you. Just join the other zombies...

I stick with american cars, but i do agree that they need to be built HERE by AMERICANS..

it gets harder to try to argue the "buy American" fact whe the cars are built in mexico or canada

hey Star,

I think you a textbook example of someone who has nothing better to do than to respond negative to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. yeah we get it you hate the G37, GOT IT. don't you have anything better to do, like....get a job so you can accualy AFFORD a real car one day and not just the specs from a dealership handout booklet?

and do you really have to selfcensor the word crap?

Can't we all just get along?

Audi A8L - to accommodate my Michael-Phelps-shaped body and my almost-as-tall relatives. I also wanted sprightly performance, luxury, comfort, reasonable gas mileage, excellent materials and build quality, and beauty/style/elegance/whatever. No car can do all of these things equally well, but the big Audi provides an excellent combination of these attributes, and I can (barely) afford it.

P.S. - The "cushy lifestyle" ads don't influence me much, other than providing a beautiful backdrop to display the vehicle. After all, ANY car would look better parked in front of an opera house than in front of a Wal-Mart.

Nice choice, Audiphile. That will likely be my next car as well for all of the reasons you mentioned. IMHO it's the still best car in that price range, even after only minor tweaks four or five model years later.

Same,


A8L or W12

I drive a Durango R/T with 22" rims. Why? Because I had to sell my Corvette when I had twins and I need something sporty that will pull my trailer and my Jeep.

It will haul 7 passengers and moves pretty quick while still looking good getting there.

22's SON

If advertising didn't work, companies wouldn't be spending zillions on it.
The fact that most deny that they're influenced just shows how subtle it is and how it affects the subconcious..
Party on dudes..

And how accurate of an image is that?

hey now. my first car was a 97 316. pretty wikkid first car if you ask me. my moms... but didnt stop the car from rocking ;)

I drive a BMW M3, Mini Cooper S and 85 Corvette. Im sure people have differing opinions of me based on each car i'm driving. I can care less though, i buy what i enjoy.

I believe we are branded. Cars are an extension of ourselves. Typically more expensive cars depict wealth, sports car = cool and outgoing, econocar = thrifty, POS = student or low income person, etc...

As usual, Star ruins every post.
I don't think I'm branded. I own a Infiniti Q45, BMW 645, S430 and a Honda Odyssey. I think it just means that I like great cars. I would love to own a Ferrari before I'm too old to walk.

Wow, I always loved Q45's. The thing is, what is it like compared to it's German competitors?

snatchandgrab,I own a Infiniti Q45, BMW 645, S430 and a Honda Odyssey

Yeah, right. Take this c**p somewhere else, Pinocchio!

@ the douche bag troll formerly know as Star,

Infiniti Q45, BMW 645, S430 and a Honda Odyssey...and for all the B.S. that you spew on here YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU HAVE NO AGENTSPACE TO PROVE IT!?
Honestly, who's c**k are you sucking to allow you access to 4 cars?
And if it's actually a woman you're with, then it makes her an even worse excuse for life than you.

Don't be so desperate for attention online by spoiling it for others that are more well adjusted to life than yourself. Go outside and play and find some real-life, oxygen breathing friends -- hell, even if they are just like you, at least it's a start.

"Bored",

Take some reading comprehension classes. I am not the one claiming to own those cars.

@Star's Moms house

Do you even OWN a car?

For now I'm carless but I do want to get myself something nice. I want something with lots of useable cargo space and a stickshift. I have a tendency to carry lots of things without realizing how full it'll be. And I want the subaru forester boxer diesel. My needs are different than others so live with it!

MKV GTI - cuz im poor, in school and cant afford anything faster. Had to be german though. There is just something about german cars that the others dont have. a certain presence. my girl loves it though. Its perfect we can pickup her digital piano and i can race across the city to drop her off @ her gig. Its just a great all purpose vehicle. I can pack my snowboard and ride up the mountain. Shopping at ikea is pretty sweet too cuz everything fits. And its build quality is just superior in its class.
I greatly prefer its low end torque over the civic's high rev system.

What it says about me:
young - smart - good looking - Caucasian - poor - well educated (specially cuz i got the 18's, which just look the bomb) - likes to drive fast - good but sometimes wreckless driver - rather pay a little more and experience a little more luxury (in the appropriate class)

How the F does having a GTI brand you as Caucasian? I've had two GTIs, but I'm black. Let's not make this thread into something it's not. The appeal of the GTI is universal.

i go to college currently, 20 years old, great education, and i have money(my own; i actually work and go to school) and i drive a paid off maxima...your reason doesn't sound legit but hey, my girlfriend is poor too(no, i dont support her). for me, i dont like to be poor so i work and buy nice things. I guess it all depends on what your priorities are

gooch: it very well does brand you as Caucasian. Or in your case also known as "want to be". Just as a Monte Carlo / Impala / 300C would brand you as a Black person or " Want to be black". Its a known social / marketing fact.

Please keep in mind what this topic was about: branding

KZ258: yes i also work and my GTI is fully paid off. Hence to what other people chose to drive or claim to drive on this site. I clearly classify myself on the lower end of the spectrum. I didn't say that driving a GTI makes me poor, but my social status would.

just as a FYI, my maxima can be seen in my gallery when you click on my name. i purposely exposed the license plate so the idiotic non-believers cant say anything opposing

a fully paid of GTI and you still classify yourself as "poor"? can you explain?

Little boy, you don't know what you're talking about or who you're referring to. I'm a "wanna be?" That would surely surprise all my family and friends. You clearly have no clue. As far as the Impala/300C/Monte Carlo reference goes -- uhhh... NO.

So what you're saying is black people have no business driving GTIs. And white people (plenty of whom I've seen in the aforementioned Impala/300C/Monte Carlo trio you've pigeonholed blacks into) have no business in "black people" cars. Please advance this "fact" to one of your professors so he/she can have a laugh at your expense -- better yet, support this "fact" on this site with numbers. Otherwise, don't be an ass. In fact, I'd say someone like you shouldn't even be driving a GTI -- it is clearly beyond your mentality.

KZ258: Nice ride. My statement as poor is in comparison to all the other cars on here that people claim to be driving. Your Maxima more $$$ then my GTI :)

gooch: K Son, don't wet your pants right away. Just because your family and friends are clueless doesn't mean it isn't so. I don't know where you live but it is broadly known that the 300C is referred as the black mans Mercedes and the Impala/Monte Carlo as ghetto mobiles.

If you read my comment/post the way i wrote it you would understand that it was based on what the TOPIC IS ABOUT --> BRANDING.
If you dont know what branding means, there is a good website called google.com that will help you out.

I never said black people have no business driving GTI's. People can do whatever they want to do. Just because you read what you want to read and play the black suppressed race card and want to whine about it, dosen't change what i wrote. If you want to argue about racial issues with me we can take it to a different site. I like to talk about cars here.

k thx

Seriously, shut up child. It's funny how you will say stuff on the internet you would never say to my face. That's why I can't stand people like you. Your crap gets called out, then you backtrack and try to make it look like I'm the idiot.
tsk, tsk. When you're able to talk to grown men, let me know.

I called you out on your own bullshit, you cant stand it, and that's understandable, cuz I'm right and it hurts you deep down inside.
You cant stand the fact that you are a more stereotypical and hypocritical then a white person.

First you assume Im a child, because i go to school.
That's because there is a school that is called graduate school. you should check it out once you get your GED.

Secondly you assume i wont tell you all this to our face, because I'm on the internet and voice my opinion as fact.
You dont know me, so i suggest you stop making assumptions.

Stand people like me? you are the very person you protraiy me to be that you hate.
You must not like yourself very much.

I don't try to make you the idiot. You ARE the idiot.

i win

thank you autospies :)

so what does an asshole like you drive?

Got an 04 Jetta as a Daily driver that is paid for.
Waiting to get a more luxurious car, but not sure what yet. Will most likely keep the Jetta.
Also have 2 Italian scooters as well that I use more now that the weather is nicer.

2009 FX35. Love it. Need the 4-wheel drive for the winter and fits my hockey bag perfectly

I switch cars too often to allow time for other people to brand me based on what I drive.

Well New hot wheels cars and matchbox cars don't come out THAT often Star...

yeah sure you do Star

But you can definitely be labled as an ASSH**E!

and why is that Cornhollydog? Is it because I tell the truth about cars or is it because you are too stupid to understand what I'm saying...

no star it is becuase you feel the need to respond negitively to EVERY SINGLE comment on EVERY SINGLE POST. and in all reality you really dont have a clue what you talking about..and yeah you are an assh**e just ask anyone who reads you post

Honda Insight:

People believe me to be an ecomaniac with his head in his ass, truth is, i'm a college student with barely any money to spare on gas.

Same here..but the only difference is I aint no College student. Honda's are reliable and gas saving cars and making an investment on expensive cars (with their ridiculous maintenance charges) I'd rather invest into something that will last and inexpensive.

Funny how these comments were deboosted, this site never ceases to blow my mind....

Audi A6. I did not want to follow the crowd who think they are better than everybody else because of the brand of car they bought. Audi gives me everything the competition does plus it gives me superior levels of performance than any brand in the winter (reason why I leave the SUV in the driveway and take the A6 when I go skiing).
I don't overpay for what I get.
The reliability during the 9 years and 130K miles has been superb.
Still drives like new.
They offer 12 years of no corrosion for a reason (because these cars DO NOT rust-like a previous Acura I owned).
I prefer modern and unique design rather than cookie cutter designs.
Boy Racer image is for teenagers, I prefer classy and sporty.
And my new favorite... my friends make fun at my car because Audi shares parts with Porsche, Bentley, Bugatti and Lamborghini!

My next cars: Q5 3.0 TDI and A7 3.0T (when it becomes available).

quattro, there is no substitute.

i'm in the market to replace my bmw 3... i'm torn between the new A4 and the upcoming G37 sedan...there is somethings i don't like in both cars... i'm torn... i can't decide... wondering if i should wait till next year so the A4 can get its kinks out and the G37 can be further refined... totally torn... i need an honest opinion from anyone who cares to give one :) ... which one... is truly better ...taking into consideration everything... including engine noise (my issue with the current G35)

"I prefer modern and unique design rather than cookie cutter designs." ahahahhahahahahah are you talking about Audi? b/c ALL of there cars look the SAME, just diff sizes.

"And my new favorite... my friends make fun at my car because Audi shares parts with Porsche, Bentley, Bugatti and Lamborghini!"
I can guarantee you the only part they share is the radio if that.

i drive an audi a4 and a bmw 650. i love both cars equally, not exactly sure what i'm branded as but what ever.

i have two... one of them is a beamer... so i know the branding thats associated (good or bad) with BMW...
what i don't know is what the branding would be when i drive my mazda speed3... no one really knows what a speed3 is unless they have driven one... it looks like a regular mazda 3... which is not a "luxury" car...

so if the people don't really know the car you drive... does branding really matter???

I drive a mazdaspeed6. Like you said about the 3, most people probably don't realize its any different than a regular mazda 6, so I'm probably grouped in the "want decent looks and handling but can't/won't spend too much" crowd.

G37 is a sweet ride!

No, it's not.

Have to agree with you there. Test drove the G37 and 3 series back to back, and the G is just more of a sporty feel. In my opinion, the exterior and interior are better on the G and just has a better feel to it.

I have to say the majority of the euro and japanese rides are great cars. Myself, I drive a silver 07 CLK550 cabrio and a silver 01 Honda Civic Coupe. I have the Honda for gas milage and the Benz for fun. Both are great cars with different purposes. I don't really care about how you assholes see the brands, they are the cars that I love and drive daily.
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993 TT modded to max, Boxster S, Z06 and an F150 FX4. What does that brand look like?

A G37 would really be cool. Or maybe a CLK...

And I have some motorcycles too...

I am 20 and drive a benz c320.

I am branded as a spoiled brat!
But now that my car is Dropped on black 18" brabus replicas.. im a wigger.

Oh well

"Wigger." Wow. I didn't realize the extent Americans have embraced branding, whether it's from a car, clothes or racial. The stupidity of racial branding is staggering.

yeah it is

btw.. I have read so much about the g37..how great blah blah blah.

I drove a g37s... dissappointed. its a great car but not all its hyped up to be.

I would buy a used 2003 e55 amg before i buy a new 2008-2009 g37. WERD!!

"I drove a g37s... dissappointed"

That's what every single car enthusiast said after driving one.

i bet you drive an old audi.

amazinJackoff, i drive an audi and a bimmer like i said before, so what does that make me? my 650 cost a pretty penny with all options except night vision and my audi is well equipped and i still don't think one brand is better than the other. my bimmer serves it's purpose and my audi serves it's purpose. by the way, did i ever say you're a jerk? you give us real enthusiasts a bad name.

04 RX8 - bought new...don't regret it. Yeah it could use more power but the only other car that I've owned that has put this kind of smile on my face was my 93 RX7 twin turbo.
I like the G35 Coupe and 350Z but they don't feel as precise as the RX8 (note I said feel). Interior quality on the G35 Coupe/G37/350Z really let me down. I think the G37 is a fine car but I think they really girlied up the design from the chiseled looks of the G35 Coupe - which is why I wouldn't buy one. I've driven both the G37 and 335i Coupe and given the money I'd by the 335 anyday over the G37 - plus for the G37 to have 30 more horsepower (on paper) it feels and is slower than the 335i (which I believe is underated in terms of power). Now if it came to price like the previous poster - I suppose I would go with a G37...or something else used.

1981 Camaro Z28- because It says Detroit Muscle in the best way

I dunno, after checking out this site:
http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro81.php

V8 - 175BHP LAWL

My 4banger pumps out 200BHP.

I think a 1969 Camaro SS should should Detroit Muscle.

Yours just shows how morbidly obese Detroit has gotten.

no pun intended.

Stock they have 175 HP

who said mine was stock?

you do have a point thought, the 69 camaro says it best , but i dont own a 69 camaro so...

What car do you have?

2008 G35 Sedan, and, unlike Star, our "genius" blogger's claims (which are 50% exagerations, 50% bulls#%t), it is a great car!
I chose the G for 3 main reasons: looks, quality (yes, Nissan quality, Star. Go ahead, knock yourself out doing what you do best, spitting out all that bulls#$t critism), and performance.
I know, it is not quite a BMW 3Series yet, but it is pretty close, if not there yet (G37 sedan coming soon; let's see...) I guess I've always had a thing for underdogs. Anyways, I love it and would not change it for anything else. In fact this is my 2nd. one. I also used to own an 07.

1989 Porsche 944 S2
Because I am a total Porsche fanatic, but needed something to fit the budget. I picked it mainly because it could out-handle nearly anything in its day (and still today, mind you) and always brings a smile to my face on any curvy back road. And for $8,000, .95g on the skidpad and 0-60 in 6-flat isn't half bad! Obviously, a 911 is my dream car, but that can wait until school is done.

The 944s are all-time classics. It is hard to imagine that these four-cylinder cars could outrun the Corvettes of the day and properly tweaked, the 944 Turbos can still outrun many high performance cars of today.
A 944 Turbo is part of my dream garage.

you're pretty lucky. those are my favorite all-time favorite porsches.

many people (especially this year) are simply getting cars that have the best lease or purchase deals period...one reason i got a new 5 series over another a6 lease, was due to BMW haveing payments of $100/month less and throw in free maint....i would go to audi or merc if they were competitive...but lease/purchase deals change daily/weekly/monthly!

yeah.. too bad my wheels arent STAGGERED.

i noobed it up

I took delivery of my GT-R on Monday. I took if back Thursday. Too noisy, too rough and even though I feel like a chump for saying it - too fast. However, for the 100 total miles I drove it every 24 year kid in a honda, acura or subaru threw both thumbs sky high.

I'm going to get a new 750Li, more my style. Don't care about the bad rap BMW drivers get, they're comfortable.

BMW`s are great drivers cars and practical and reliable, and I`m old enough not to care about image, my all time favourite car would have to be a 1950`s MG TD MKII, not the quickest car around by any means but enough performance to have fun coupled to and amazing chasis, even on old crossply tyres it had reasonable grip, but the way it could be cornered on the limit and controlled with the throttle on wet or dry roads or loose gravel is in a class of it`s own, is equal to the 1960`s Lotus Elan (obviously the Elan is much quicker, but the MG has character and the steering was light and direct, like no new car, including BMW, also a lovely short travel very direct gearchange unlike the rubbery Toyota or Honda gearboxes, apparently the best steering ever is supposed to be on an early Bugatti.