No Credit and A Pending Economic Meltdown: The Current State of the Automotive Industry - Money Now Is The Object, How Will It Affect Your Next Purchase?

No Credit and A Pending Economic Meltdown: The Current State of the Automotive Industry - Money Now Is The Object, How Will It Affect Your Next Purchase?
Global Meltdown.  Credit Crunch.  Panic.

I stopped watching the news because of all the gloom and doom.  Yahoo Finance this morning had a glitch as one of their charts showed the stock market down over 1000 points, as if its not bad enough.  Ford and General Motors in addition to a market share slide they just can't seem to stop now are battling stock prices that for GM are at 50 year lows.

Overseas markets have seen wide spread panic set in as everyone speculates when, or if we might see the bottom of the market.  A good friend of mine who is very knowledgeable in all things financial seems to think we might see 6000 before this is all over.  Oil is closing lower and lower each day, of course gas prices don't fall nearly as fast as they rise when oil is on the upswing.

When will it end?

The sad fact is I don't know, I am not sure anyone does right now.  It doesn't change the fact that you like cars, you wouldn't be here right now if you didn't.   The reality is in a market that has lost 40% of its value in the last 12 months, car buying decision are just one of many things that are probably going to be reconsidered with a little more fiscal responsibility.

My friend who thinks the stock market still hasn't seen bottomed traded his S-Class for a Honda Civic.  He said it was to save money on gas (and he doesn't need to worry about it) but still a decision that at the time I didn't understand.  Right now I think he is a genius!  A smaller more fuel efficient car makes sense right now given economic uncertainty, even for those with money to burn.

And therein lies the paradox...

There are some great new cars coming in the next few months, but will it matter.

BMW has introduced the new 7-Series.  Agent 001 had the opportunity to spend some time driving it last week and he reports that it is awesome.  Power, speed, luxury and of course a big price tag. 

Chevrolet is making final preparations to the Camaro.  The 302 HP direct injection V6 looks to be the performance bargain of 2009 with horsepower equal to that of Mustang GT's, but 400+ HP V8's promise to round out the lineup.

Why mention these two cars in the same story you might ask.  The answer is quite simple, it is the economics behind each car.  For $70k + you can get behind the wheel of  the big BMW, burning through premium fuel at a blistering rate as the big V8 effortlessly whisks you to each destination on your itinerary OR you could buy a Camaro for less than half the price of the BMW and pick up a more efficient  ride in V6 form which still has the ability to get you places quickly.

Granted buyers of the 7-Series wouldn't cross shop the Camaro, however these cars are used as examples of some of the exciting cars coming our way in the next few months.  Options are plentiful, and the lineups at most makers have some pretty exciting cars.

You could always play it safe and Honda is waiting there arms wide open with the most fuel efficient lineup of cars sold in America currently.  So efficient in fact that mark-ups on the Civic were commonplace this past summer in certain markets including Southern California.  Fuel efficient, and fun in some cases a Civic serves up a lot of options not previously seen on prior generations allowing a case to be built for choosing this car over others currently on sale.

There are a lot of options out there, but lets address it this way.  If the old adage is true that you hope for the best but prepare for the worst, lets assume the experts are right and we are in for a year or two of economic uncertainty. 

How will this affect your buying decision?

Will you simply shrug your shoulders and put your deposit on the BMW 7-Series or equivalent, or do you play it safe and purchase something a little cheaper and more sensible?

I for one hope this economic crisis ends soon, but there is always the unknown, and a little planning for that now can help to head off trouble later on.

So share with us how will the current economic situation affect your next vehicle purchase?


Agent004Agent004 - 10/11/2008 1:26:33 AM
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Designer1Designer1 - 10/11/2008 10:52:14 AM
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Good job with the pole, but you should also add "both economy and financing".


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/11/2008 1:37:27 AM
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You can bet your bottom dollar that it won't affect amazinBimmer's next purchase.


daytonavioletdaytonaviolet - 10/11/2008 9:18:28 AM
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...or keep him from voicing his obnoxious opinions/daydreams.


ChipChip - 10/11/2008 3:44:41 AM
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Agent 00J, I have a feeling that 7-series isn't going to be going for $70,000.

That car has taken a giant leap in technology and options that are going to push a loaded 750iL in the 6 figure range. Just my prediction



atomicbriatomicbri - 10/11/2008 7:07:01 AM
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Both of my cars were recent purchase so I hope by the time of my next, things will be on the upswing. I have known a few people where this has lost them a LOT of money and a friend of mine has sold his gas guzzler and went to something cheaper. Another friend that has really decent credit had a helluva time finding financing for his car purchase he made just the other day. No one wants to loan money. Yet we as taxpayers are bailing them out, yet I don't think that will change anything in the near future.


DeeDoggDeeDogg - 10/11/2008 8:01:49 AM
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A buddy from work just bought a 2008 ES350 new for $2500 under invoice. The dealership even sent him the invoice by fax beforehand and said that they would match any offers.

Things are not going well out there....




KZ258KZ258 - 10/11/2008 8:19:49 AM
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hey 00j, we already did this topic btw


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 10/11/2008 10:36:53 AM
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Its not that you cant get financed. the people who dont pay their bills on time, pay too much on their mortgage vs their annual income and have a lot of credit card debt may not be able to get in to the car they want. they may have to settle for something less.
i am glad i have been relatively good with my money, not the best saver, but i pay my bills and i got approved with $0 down on a new vehicle. so whats the big deal? just pay your sh!t on time!


JonathanJonathan - 10/11/2008 3:10:39 PM
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Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, this current economic downturn is affecting everyone. It is a global meltdown. There is widespread lack of confidence in the financial system. People everywhere are losing their jobs, their homes, and are being forced to retire later.
Unless you live in a bubble, I don't understand how this doesn't affect you...


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 10/12/2008 12:23:44 AM
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will affect the many americans who either a) have bad credit or b) are up to their eyeballs in debt.

personally not worried because i drive conservative cars relative to income and am meticulous about my credit score.


iamdabest1iamdabest1 - 10/12/2008 12:48:24 PM
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i do title insurance on homes and i had to downgrade from an e46m3 to the 335xi, im definitely not happy about it, but the market is bad and i know people who have it worse.
a close friend of mine had a z06, e55amg and an x5, got rid of all 3 leases and now has a honda civic.

i think if car companies take away good leasing programs most people will not be buying premium cars.



goochgooch - 10/15/2008 8:31:26 AM
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Your close friend, quite simply, did not handle his money correctly if he had to downgrade like that. That is ridiculous. Perhaps he should not have been floating three pricey vehicles at one time.

Several people have said it -- live beneath your means and you will not suffer as much. I am no saint -- I am not where I want to be financially but I'm not in the kind of hot water your friend was in. Sorry about his bad breaks.

The good thing is, it will turn around. The question is when.


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