The Bob Lutz challenge: Fit and finish as good as European or Japanese brands

Vice Chairman Bob Lutz discusses the high quality of today’s GM cars and trucks – and issues a unique challenge to compare our vehicles to our competitors’

“We’ve also made dramatic quality gains in the fit of our sheet metal, how closely the panels fit. You know, like the distance between the hood and the top of the front fender, the distance between the hood, the front edge of the hood and the top of the headlight, the gaps between doors and the gaps between parts on the interior.

“And I challenge anybody -- this is a challenge I issue frequently -- is go to your local Chevrolet dealer, have him show you a $19,500 Chevy Malibu. Take out a gap gauge,
which is a little gauge where you measure distance between body panels. And measure about 20 points around – the trunk lid, the doors, the hood, and so forth. And then go to your local German prestige car dealer, pick any of the three brands, or your local Japanese prestige car dealer, and take the same little gap gauge with you, and start measuring gaps on those. And then send me an e-mail and tell me who’s got the most precise body fits.”


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KingerKinger - 10/22/2008 10:07:43 AM
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As if anyone is going to go around to different dealerships measuring panel gaps! lol


GTR35GTR35 - 10/22/2008 10:21:22 AM
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Right. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


CarboyCarboy - 10/24/2008 4:50:49 PM
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James May will measure the gaps lol


wooodwoood - 10/22/2008 10:38:04 AM
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Aside from gaps, what about reliability, interior material quality, interior noise levels, ergonomics, etc.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 10/22/2008 11:24:45 AM
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I think I would have to diagree with alot of what the people here are saying, because one panel gaps are important to alot of people....that was one huge problem people had with American cars, in fact its very obvious from measuring it or not, just from looking. Not to mention not every single GM car but GM has a few cars that I would agree with Lutz in that some models are as good or better than the competition. The CTS, the malibu, the astra, the Vue are ones that come to mind even GM's full size trucks and SUVS have good quality if not better than some models by comparison the QX and the Escalade.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 10/22/2008 11:26:33 AM
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and on a side note the reason why people are saying they arent is because of a HUGE BIAS against them, you may want to check reliability records on some of he cars you have your huge bias for, and see by comparison where some GM cars are


SpectatorSpectator - 10/22/2008 4:38:33 PM
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Its funny how many people hate Bob Lutz when they should be cheering him on. This is the individual who wants nothing more than to bring back class, performance and prestige to the GM moniker.

It would be rediculous not to be ecstatic that your companys vehicles finally meet the fit and finish of the automotive standard after so many years wallowing in blissfull mediocrity.

The challenge, the real challenge, is for the rest of the world to take a step back from the instant 'Hate of Everything American' (this applies to some of us Americans as well) and to recognize a product that is just plain good.

Honestly, if Jeremy Clarkson can take a break from his usual anti-american diatribe (which I find funny) to recognize a GM product as being equal to the Germans, why can't everyone else.


klipprandklipprand - 10/22/2008 12:12:48 PM
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Panel gaps are important, and there has been improvement. However, there is more to the equation.


0to600to60 - 10/22/2008 2:22:55 PM
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I have a Malibu loaner right now and it is quite impressive. The features available in the base model is great. It is def the best in class... although I really need to hold this judgement until I have a chance to check out the Mazda6. I would say the sound of the engine cranking brought back painful memories of my first car, a chevy cavalier. Boy that car had all kind of reliability issues. That would be the main thing keeping me from this car. The other thing is the feel of the steering. Dont particularly care for it. Other than that, a V6 Malibu would be an awesome car and I do belive it is best in class!


0to600to60 - 10/22/2008 2:26:02 PM
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With the steering and engine, I am use to more luxurious cars so I am likely biased in that aspect. Therefore the steering is likely on par or better than what can be expected in a Toyota and Altima. I am certain its better than honda. I hate the way they feel.


SixxFiveSixxFive - 10/22/2008 6:18:46 PM
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GM has been talking about this for decades.....actions speak louder than words.


hk4sitehk4site - 10/24/2008 8:02:32 PM
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For years GM solded us crap, now that it's in trouble they wanted to sell us a car as good as the imports...sorry I am not buying it!


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