Should Our New President's First Task Be A Federal Tax Deduction For Car Loans?

Should Our New President's First Task Be A Federal Tax Deduction For Car Loans?
Toyota Motor Corp and Chrysler LLC said federal income-tax deductions for interest on car loans could help stem the slide that sent US sales to their lowest monthly total since 1991.

General Motors Corp the biggest U.S. automaker also said today it had studied the idea of boosting auto demand through a government-backed program to encourage scrapping older vehicles.

The companies floated the ideas after posting October sales totals that GM called the worst since 1945. While the automakers said they hadn't actively lobbied for such changes, the calls added to mounting pressure for government aid as GM pursues a merger with Chrysler.

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KZ258KZ258 - 11/5/2008 4:10:36 PM
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i agree

if you cant afford, you shouldnt be looking into it, but just looking at it when it passes you by


DaHarderDaHarder - 11/5/2008 10:28:48 AM
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Seriously Now...

Our country has far bigger fish to fry than this!

In time, these issues can be addressed, but for now, they can wait.


Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 10:53:07 AM
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Finally a voice of reason!


KZ258KZ258 - 11/5/2008 4:13:57 PM
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you do not know what your talking about lol


tundrahqtundrahq - 11/9/2008 8:43:18 AM
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At best, this would provide a mild boost to the industry. In order for someone to deduct auto interest, they would have to be able to itemize. Many taxpayers don't itemize because the standard deduction is more than they can come up with by adding up every little deduction. The only consumers that would benefit would be homeowners (who have a hefty mortgage interest deduction), and I would imagine most homeowners are a little scared to go into debt right now. I don't think this plan does much.

Second, as many have said, the government shouldn't be encouraging people to take on more debt (especially for a depreciating asset).

Interesting topic, however.


nybimmernybimmer - 11/5/2008 10:59:28 AM
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Absolutely not...
First of all, a car purchase is a discretionary consumer purchase which should not be subsidized by the govt.

Secondly, if the govt gave people a tax break on car loans, because of our high rate of govt spending, that money would have to be obtained somewhere else - i.e. an offsetting tax would need to be identified, so the net effect would be 'zero'.

Third, these car companies have only themselves to blame for their predicament - govt should not be used to bail out the incompetent people running these auto firms.

Fourth, such a break would just encourage the same irresponsible behavior that created this problem in the first place.

People should buy what they can afford. Sorry.


Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 12:01:13 PM
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Nybimmer- An transportation is NOT a discretionary for all areas. Sure in NY City with an extensive public transportation system this is academic. In many other systems the infrastructure is not as well established.

I live in an are of about 5 million people, yet I still have to drive almost 10 miles to the closest train and bus service to that same station is almost 6 miles away.

In this case a car becomes more of a necessity than a discretionary purchase.

Now the TYPE of car you choose IS discretionary to a degree.


chewychewy - 11/5/2008 12:44:29 PM
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"Now the TYPE of car you choose IS discretionary to a degree."

exactly

If someone has an oldish car and not a bunch of money, they should just drive the one they have.


nybimmernybimmer - 11/5/2008 3:22:54 PM
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Agent 009 - a car is a totally discretionary purchase - if you need one, you see what you can afford and you buy it (or finance it) if you can't afford a car, you'd better live in an area with lots of public transport. Even in LA, those without cars (and those without driver's licenses) take the bus.

As a contrasting example, food or clothing are not discretionary purchases. If a car is truly a necessity, buy a cheap used one - there are lots around.


zorbeezezorbeeze - 11/5/2008 5:56:06 PM
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If only most americans thought the way nybimmer does the world would be a much better place.
If you can't afford a car, live in an area where public transportation is much more available.
Beggers can't be choosers.
And if you do buy a car then take your time to learn the market and all the cars in your price range and if your tight on budget you get the most affordable car.


zorbeezezorbeeze - 11/5/2008 5:56:23 PM
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If only most americans thought the way nybimmer does the world would be a much better place.
If you can't afford a car, live in an area where public transportation is much more available.
Beggers can't be choosers.
And if you do buy a car then take your time to learn the market and all the cars in your price range and if your tight on budget you get the most affordable car.


zorbeezezorbeeze - 11/5/2008 5:56:28 PM
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If only most americans thought the way nybimmer does the world would be a much better place.
If you can't afford a car, live in an area where public transportation is much more available.
Beggers can't be choosers.
And if you do buy a car then take your time to learn the market and all the cars in your price range and if your tight on budget you get the most affordable car.


EL34EL34 - 11/5/2008 11:15:58 AM
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Whatever you do, don't buy an American car!


EL34EL34 - 11/5/2008 11:33:58 AM
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damikco-

We're worried about the economy, well that just too bad.

Do not buy an American car!

Buy the Nissan Maxima and not the ugly Ford Taurus.


0to600to60 - 11/5/2008 5:31:58 PM
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This is not EL. Someone stole his username and password!!!! Cant be EL


freeagentfreeagent - 11/5/2008 11:18:05 AM
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This is DOA. Obama wont go there.


Sarcastic1Sarcastic1 - 11/5/2008 12:04:36 PM
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Absolutely not. Giving incentives to take out loans will only further the trouble our economy is having now. The Fed made it simple for people to get mortgages and look what happened. Just like a person earning $30,00 a year shouldn't buy a house in the Hamptons, that same person should not be given a loan to purchase a Quattroporte. Instead of a circus of foreclosures, it's going to be a circus of repossessions. If anything, Obama should encourage fiscal responsibility in an effort to rebuild personal capital and stabilize our economy.




Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 12:13:24 PM
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don't forget the first factor is the person buying the car with a loan must be able to quality fort it. That is where you can enforce the credit worthiness.

The economy needs these big ticket purchases to keep moving forward. Without these types of purchases you start leading to layoffs (duh) and then curtailed spending by cash strapped consumers and a cascade effect begins to manifest itself.

The real problem is that hundreds of thousands of people that never should have been given large amounts of credit were. Credit is a good thing however it MUST be used responsibly.


nybimmernybimmer - 11/5/2008 3:26:26 PM
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009 - perhaps you'd flail a bit less , if you'd stay away from economic topics when making posts on the site. Financial/economic topics are really not your 'sweet spot'. Cheers!


Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 4:17:43 PM
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Well the logic here is it encourages the consumer to make a purchase very similar to the tax break afforded to hybrid owner at first.

The second is it injects capital into the economy in the form of a big ticket item, that fuels the wheels of the economy.

Pretty simple and effective as a short term solution.


Sarcastic1Sarcastic1 - 11/5/2008 12:05:14 PM
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Absolutely not. Giving incentives to take out loans will only further the trouble our economy is having now. The Fed made it simple for people to get mortgages and look what happened. Just like a person earning $30,00 a year shouldn't buy a house in the Hamptons, that same person should not be given a loan to purchase a Quattroporte. Instead of a circus of foreclosures, it's going to be a circus of repossessions. If anything, Obama should encourage fiscal responsibility in an effort to rebuild personal capital and stabilize our economy.




Need4SpeedNeed4Speed - 11/5/2008 12:51:14 PM
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Finally, a voice of reason!


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 11/5/2008 12:32:05 PM
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no....who even suggested this immensely stupid idea?


Need4SpeedNeed4Speed - 11/5/2008 12:52:29 PM
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Probably a Republican


Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 4:18:10 PM
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Actually GM, Ford and Toyota...


RupertRupert - 11/5/2008 1:19:52 PM
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What a stupid idea!!

Hey, you're in debt, get in more debt!


Agent009Agent009 - 11/5/2008 4:19:33 PM
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What if you weren't in debt and were credit worthy. But you are a bit worried about the overall outlook. This might encourage you to make the purchase now when it is needed the most for the economy.


bitschaserbitschaser - 11/5/2008 6:29:06 PM
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The car manufacturers have sold probably a million or more cars to people in the last five years who shouldn't have been granted finance for the purchase. The manufacturers have profited from those sales (or at least reduced their losses) and shouldn't now be bailed out. To do so would be to reward the idiots who bought cars they clearly couldn't afford and the manufacturers who encourage it just to shift cars from inventory. The best bail out for U.S. manufacturers is to get them someone in charge who can build a car people actually want to pay for, as opposed to crap cars that they have to massively discount to be competitive.


610looper610looper - 11/5/2008 11:26:03 PM
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No, the President past or future should not give out tax dedcutions for car loans...that's what leasing and a good accountant are for.

Second, indebted people didn't cause this crisis, the fools running those companies did for a quick buck and it back fired big time, quite like some of these high APR % rate credit card companies.

How else can people get paid millions of dollars and not just in stock options?

Last I checked, the home buying process is still as long and intense as getting top secret clearance at the DOD, hell I think they even want your first born.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/23/mica-waxman/


mercuryguymercuryguy - 11/6/2008 10:30:26 AM
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We had this years ago while Jimmy Carter was President. People could deduct thier car loans. Good Olde Ronald Reagan took this away from us, Big Government at its best, tell people how to run this budgets and how to live.

Many of us in sales have to buy new cars for a compnay and drive 30,000 miles per year, without any depreciation or tax relief, all this after paying $3,000-$4,000 in sales tax when You buy the car, then the huge cost to register and insure it.

I'd like to see a deduction for the full purchase price on the car if you buy AMERICAN.

Why is it that only business owners are allowed to have this deduction for thier automobiles?

Lets extend this to everyone, especially those who have to take out loans to provide thier own company car that companies now demand to reduce thier costs. As a worker, I'd like to reduce my costs as well.


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