Cars They Wish You'd Forget About - "Hey, they can't all be winners!"

Cars They Wish You'd Forget About -
We spent some time this weekend sitting in front of the TV watching various Christmas DVD's as we allowed the vast amounts of food consumed settle.

One of the movies we watched was "Bad Santa" with Billy Bob Thornton from several years ago.  Certainly not appropriate for children, this DVD was put in when my son was sleeping and the adults were able to enjoy some time without the kids.

If you have seen this movie, you know that while profane Billy Bob Thornton is hilarious.  There is a scene were he attempts to replace the candy in an advent calendar for the kid whose house he is currently residing.  When the kid goes to open the appropriate day on the advent calendar, he is greeted with some candy corn that Billy Bob Thornton had placed there after eating the chocolate in his drunken state the previous night.

The kid looks at the candy corn with disgust, and Billy Bob says to the kid, "...they can't all be winners."  It is a funny line, and if you have seen the movie you know the scene, but it got me thinking about the car companies.

It would be nice to think that every model brought to market is a winner, but we all know that is not the case.  I thought it would be fun to look at some of the mis-steps brought to market that turned out to be losers.  Yeah, I know there are some obvious ones out there, but lets dig deep and find the true losers that the car manufacturers want you to forget about.

Here are some of the cars I came up with, but I know I am missing a lot of cars on my list.

Pontiac Aztec - There really is nothing I can say that hasn't already been said about this car.  Let's face it, aside from the incredible incentives to move the inventory off dealer lots, there really was no incentive to buy this eyesore.


BMW 318ti - Hatchbacks may sell well in Europe, but here in the USA hatchbacks tend to denote cheap.  Although this car served as a great entry level BMW, the fact is this concept never really gained traction here in the US and as such BMW was smart to pull it from the lineup before it could dilute the brand image.  Mini is a much better way to bring a hatchback to the US, and one that ultimately compliments the BMW brand.


Pontiac G6 GXP - Pontiac may want you to buy this car, but I assure you this is one you (and eventually they) will want you to forget about.  The sheer amount of gaudy body work adhered to this otherwise good looking car is an embarrassment to GM.  Bob Lutz should immediately pull this model from the showrooms, it symbolizes the perception of Pontiac of years gone by.


Acura TL - We have been pretty critical of Acura's current design language, we hope it will resolve itself into a more palatable look, but for now I suspect the 2009 TL will be one of those cars that Acura will someday hope you forget about.  It really is ashame because from any angle other than the front, this is actually a decent looking car, and the interior is killer.


Of course there are about 500 other cars that could probably make this list, but if I listed them all there would be no room for you, so go ahead and wow us with all the cars I missed.

Going on the notion that they all can't be winners, each and every manufacturer has a car or two that if they were really honest with the rest of, they'd admit they were ashamed of.

Have some fun and call them out on it here because remember...

"...they can't all be winners!"


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 12:08:03 AM
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Current generation Acura RL- Worst car I've driven since I started AutoSpies.com.

So much promise, what a dud.

And we were the only website or magazine to call it out.

001


TommyAndersonTommyAnderson - 11/30/2008 1:12:33 PM
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I BELIEVE THAT HONDA GIVES THEIR BEST TO DEVELOP A CAR AND FINDS A WAY TO RUIN IT UP SOMEHOW.......
TOO BAD THEY LOOK SO FORGETFUL[IF NOT UGLY] WITH THEIR NEW BEAKS....
AND YEAH THE RL'S INTERIOR ISN'T THAT BAD..


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 12:14:09 AM
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But if I had to pick another recent dud..The Ford 500.

Another one no other media outlet dissed except us.

We said the reason they called it the 500 is because it wouldn't last on the market 500 days.

It made it 372 before getting canned.

001


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 12:15:07 AM
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Obviously, it pays to SPY before you BUY.

We can save you a lot of heartache and $

001


jgf330xijgf330xi - 11/30/2008 1:12:04 AM
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I had a 318ti California and it is still one of the FUNNEST cars I I have ever owned. Would buy another in a second. It was fun to wind it out, redlining the engine in the neighborhood.

Would have been a blast if BMW had imported the 6-cyclinder version, but the 1.9 four was a treat.

And for comparison the other vehicles in the stable were a Boxster and then a 2000 C4 Millennium,


jgf330xijgf330xi - 11/30/2008 1:16:10 AM
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Why does the 318ti always get a bad rap? I loved my 1996 318ti California, still one of the funnest car I have ever owned. Sure the car would have been better if it had the 2.8 6-cylinder, but for use in the city the 1.9 was fun. Used to wind it out in the neighborhood...


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 1:21:45 AM
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I had one for a service loaner a few times and it's only flaws were it was underpowered and overpriced.

001


AudiphileAudiphile - 11/30/2008 1:23:26 AM
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Messrs. 00J & 001 have some excellent candidates.

I would add the Volkswagen Phaeton to the list. The fact that the current Audi A8 and Bentley Continental, which utilize much of the Phaeton's platform and technological innovations, have sold well while the Phaeton has flopped, drives home the point that should have been obvious to Ferdinand Piech from the very beginning: Who wants to pay $80,000 for a Volkswagen?

Virtually every car that British Leyland made in the 1970s and 1980s should be added to this list.

And who would not want to forget the Yugo?

If you want to look further back in history for automotive mistakes, consider the Ford Edsel from the 1950s - nothing to write home about technically, and a sales flop.

The Chrysler Airflow from the 1930s and the Tucker from the 1940s were not commercial successes either, but they had so many redeeming qualities that they should NOT be put on this list of cars that "best should be forgotten".


AudiphileAudiphile - 11/30/2008 11:49:57 PM
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Sailor - LOL. I did forgot about the Lada. The fact that the Yugo and the Lada were Fiats built under license was foreboding enough, but Communist workmanship was the kiss of death.


PassatR36PassatR36 - 11/30/2008 10:03:49 AM
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I know this is going to upset some BMW fans:

First let me say that my favorate cars are BMW 5 series RWD models with Sport package.

Then the wrost cars are 5 series with all wheel drive since the difference between the two is night and day.




AudiphileAudiphile - 11/30/2008 11:56:43 PM
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LOL. I remember looking at Le Car when I was shopping for my first car in 1976. I had to be careful when opening the doors because the door panels would "oilcan" when you pushed the unlatch button.

I did not buy Le Car, thank God. But I did purchase a 1976 VW Rabbit, which was a great car when it was not malfunctioning! That car was such a lemon I should have ordered it in yellow! (If I had waited a few months to buy a 1977 Rabbit, I would have saved myself a lot of trouble! VW didn't get most of the bugs - pardon my pun! - out of the Rabbit until the 1977 model year.)


mikeydred20mikeydred20 - 11/30/2008 12:55:32 PM
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Lame excuse by another agent to bash the TL, the new FX is what you call "butt" ugly, nothing wrong with the TL design and that's right the interior is killer.


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 4:53:55 PM
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I urge everyone to go to a dealer and open and close a door an the new TL.

I did at the LA Auto Show and it sounded like I closed the door on a tin can.

I was surprised how cheap made it felt.

001


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 4:56:15 PM
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And of all the new Acura's, the TL design to me is the least objectionable.

It is a B- in my opinion.

The interior is very nice (I never have a problem with Acura interiors...they are all nice and well done).

But it doesn't feel any more expensive than an Accord when you close the door on one.

001


M53RM53R - 11/30/2008 1:05:04 PM
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I think the Current generation Lexus SC430 could be added to the list. Ugly, underperforming and expensive. The only thing good about it is it's interior.

and for the future, I predict the Porsche Panamera to join the list soon!




Yonder7Yonder7 - 11/30/2008 1:12:57 PM
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What about Mercedes C hatchback........WAKALA...it is fighting for the last place beside the BMW 3 hatchback.....


BlakuraTLSBlakuraTLS - 11/30/2008 5:06:28 PM
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The Cadillac Cimmaron! How could this not be mentioned yet?


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 5:13:32 PM
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Or the Catera!

001


BlakuraTLSBlakuraTLS - 11/30/2008 5:10:25 PM
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Enough with all the comments about the new TL being too much like an Accord. Is it possible that the Accord is such a good car that there was not much need to make the TL so different as far as parts go? But there is definitely differences in the execution of the two cars. And the I have checked out the new TL and there was no cheap feel anywhere in or on the car. There is no reason to make the TL feel more expensive than the Accord when you close the door, the Accord feels expensive enough that the TL doesn't need a different sound.


Agent001Agent001 - 11/30/2008 5:26:34 PM
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Go close the door on a C-Class, 3, 1-Series, A4, A3.

And you'll see.

001


mikeydred20mikeydred20 - 11/30/2008 6:40:41 PM
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Agent001 I will tell you for sure the TL interior is more upscale than the c class and the BMW's for that matter both barnds are just selling on reputation because BMW and Mercedes interiors do not justify there prices. Further more every magazine I've read has not called the TL ugly the issue is with the grill and the interior closes with a thud and you sound like your in a vault are just some of the quoates.

Obviously you are a German fan or should I say bage Wh_re


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 11/30/2008 7:21:18 PM
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more upscale? the TL i will give credit say it appears to be of good quality its interior, and has a solid feel to it unlike 001 is saying.......but with that said it feels like a nice mainstream sedan, accord, camry, type of car. Nothing about it feels upscale, or like a luxury car, the interior looks like it could have gone in an accord without much thought as to why. Is the new accord really good yes....but if your charging this much for a upgraded version it needs to have more than a bit more polarizing styling and extra technology. Its no luxury car at all, nice yes,good quality yes, good desighn yes, but it doesnt look like an upscale anythign on the inside.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 11/30/2008 7:28:11 PM
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and on a side note, styling is subjective, but most reviews ive read say something about how the interior doesnt fit the class.


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 12/1/2008 12:39:50 AM
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Agree about the TL, add the X6!


M35MTM35MT - 12/1/2008 12:37:55 PM
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The 2003-2005 Infiniti M45. This was a concoction of leftover parts from large Nissan luxury sedans sold in Japan. It looked like a crown vic from the side, lifted it's interior from the Q45 (but had a cheaper version of it) and had a fugly, sad looking face.

They redeemed themselves 100% with the 2006, which was halariously introduced in March 2005 - couldnt have brought it to the lots sooner!


SteveSteve - 12/4/2008 4:09:14 PM
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BMW 5 series: A delicate balance of offensive forms and blandness to the eye can only be topped with iDrive. Combine that with an Art Neveau interior that makes expensive materials look cheap, and you have a solid candidate for "What Were They Thinking?"


TheRealJTTheRealJT - 12/4/2008 7:00:28 PM
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can anyone say "Sterling"?


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