WEB RAGE FRIDAY! Bailout Goes Bust And Chaos Abounds- What's YOUR Beef THIS Week?

Can you believe these idiots have the nerve to go home and enjoy Christmas break while people in Michigan and others around the country are freaking out and their lives are falling apart?

I'm not saying they should have done the deal, but they could at least be committed to staying there till Christmas Eve to see what can be done.

SOMETHING can be done...maybe it won't be great but SOMETHING.

How about take the $20B and offer benefits for these people who will be effected?

What a bunch of uncaring jerks...

001

001 - I don't think it is so much them going home, I think it is the fact that the people WE elected to represent us have fallen so far out of touch with the very people who sent them to Washington in the first place.

Here in TN, I know the local Republican party has been very active in keeping a lot of pressure on our Senators, Corker and Alexander to insure that the things WE sent them to do, are being done.

The problem with the bailout as a whole, is there is no line now that says when it stops. Our representatives have continued to put good money after bad in an attempt to kick start something that needed to adjust in the first place. Hindsight is 20/20, but what would have happened without ANY bailout?

-00J

I know they work long hours, but lets get real. This is a national issue and sometimes you have to stay.

001, I agree with you.

Agent001-

This has nothing to do with Christmas or Pearl Harbor day. It has everything to do with giving money to companies that are destined to fail. It's time for the UAW to make some major concessions or else to be prepaired to be unemployed.

In fact, it's time for the UAW to close their doors because they have bitten the hand that feeds too many times!

Let the car companies file for bankruptcy and restructure and hire people back like Toyota does.

Such is life. RIP.
Nice photo though, a Rotterdam fan.

You can thank UAW for this.

Can you believe that the UAW had the balls to not concede to matching market rates for their workers?

Are they so caught up in themselves that they believe America is behind them? OMG!

If you ever thought the UAW would be the death of the Detroit three, then this is all of the proof you will ever need.

It's time!

Time to lead the UAW to the gallows and hang it by the neck until it's dead.

That's what the USA does to criminals that have done horrific crimes to the people of the USA.

UAW, what would you like for your last meal?

It's time!!!

isn't EL a real estate agent? how bout we cut your pay check by like 5 times? 3% for filling out some paper work and selling a house? you KIDDIN me? 0.5% is more like it and you should even say 'thank you' to us for that

DinamoR-

I am a real estate agent and I already cut my commission way down.

I voluntarily took a pay cut!

Do you want to buy a beautiful beach front 2 bedroom & 2 bath Condo for $1,650,000 in OC,CA? :-)

so you can get a 6 figure commision for filling out some paperwork while bitching about hard working auto factory workers who make $28 on hour?

haha. nope. i don't

Can you believe that someone who runs a website can't spell "segue"?

That's because I just got off my segway and couldn't stop thinking about it! ;)

001

I don't think GM will die. Shrink significant, yes. Die, I don't think so. But Chrysler is outta here.

People that fart in small public spaces!!! Walked into one the other day.

Sour!

001

UAW is the reason for all of this in the first place. Greedy workers, and unions. I have no problem watching this happen. I have never seen such a bunch of spoiled employeed people ever. You have insurance, great pay, benefits, 401K, blah blah blah. There are professionals in higher stress and educated jobs making less and not bitching. Get with the program and suck it up. We all have been.

The UAW is all about legalized extorcion. If they don't get what they want, they go on strike, costing auto companies millions of dollars in lost revenue. It's not about fairness... any more than a guy holding a gun to your head is reasonable about what he takes from your wallet. Most of the world is not protected by government authorized extorcion like that. If I don't like what my company pays, I can look elsewhere. If I'm really good, maybe I can squeeze them for a few extra bucks.. but not if some other guy comes along that can do the same quality work and is willing to do it cheaper. I've seen auto plants in action and I did not see anyone doing a job that a 10 year old could not perform after about 10 minuts of training. The idea that these guys are pulling in the wages they are is obscene. Make every state and every plant a right to work plant and let then UAW compete. If they are as good as they say they are, then the auto companies will pay more. That's fair!

+1!

i got such a hangover. That bacon, egg, and cheese on a plain bagel did me well...

Well perhaps in the long run this will be a good thing. I'm a democrat but I cannot blame the republicans for this one.What many have said all along is that wage and benefit gap between the US auto makers and foreign automakers is one of the primary reasons why the US automakers are not making any money and have lost market share.I'm not happy that it did not pass. However as I've said before there has to be an equal playing field to start out with. I hope "stick my head in the sand till my terms over Bush" will take the money out of tarp and give them the 14 million to tide these companies over until the Obama administration takes over.

No its because the big 3 make horrible cars the Im mean the H3 the Hummer pick up bad management not the unions did this. PS I have never seen so many worker bees proud of the fact that they are overworked and underpaid. Seriously some of you guys are real clowns. You cant realize that Americans workers are becoming more like the low wage sweatshop workers in southeast Asian than vice versa. I love how "professionals" think there so important because they push papers around all day. Do the research clowns countries were people actually make tangible things have always and will always end up being the world's superpower. IE United States 1940's - 1990's, and now it will be China's turn. remember the democrats warned you morons

George Bush will not leave the White House until the whole western civilization has collapsed and is smoldering in smoke. Its Herbert Hoover time all over again! (only this time its worldwide)

Where's our FDR? Oh yeah he still won't be able to take over for another month and a half. Nov. 4 to Jan. 20 is waaaaaay too long. We should cut it down to like Dec. 1.

Please read this...

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/gmvstoyota/

My view is that the Big 3 should merge into one and cut the fat off of it's back. I know that jobs will still be lost but it will be lower than having all of them shut down completely. The problem with these companies is not with the UAW, not with oil, not with anything other than the fact that people arent buying American cars. I think they've saturated the markets and are producing more vehicles than are being demanded.

America is becoming a socialist country, and it's pissing me off. I liked the country when it was prosperous, industrial, competitive, and had a spirit of "you can make it if you work hard". Now we've devolved into figuring out how to sue to get rich (if you are a lawyer), or get a handout from the government for everyone else. Not that the government has any money left: the wealth in the currency is quickly depleting, and soon will be a distant memory of good times past before we wrecked this fine country.

I'm sick of wealth redistribution programs. Social security was conceived to be a retirement safety net with a fixed contribution cap (which is already ridiculous compared to actual benefits); extending it to all income makes it obviously and blatantly a wealth-redistribution system. Then there is the "progressive" tax system... a misnomer if ever there was one, let's call it what it is: the unfair wealth redistribution tax system. Then we have "bailouts" for the financial industry (in name only: everybody knows the industry is still bankrupt and going to fail, even after trillions in handouts from the Fed); redistributing wealth from people who hold US dollars to the people who caused the credit meltdown, great plan, fearless leaders.

That's not even getting in to the auto industry handout proposal (it's not a "bailout", people... the Big 3 has about as much chance of long-term competitive viability as Bush has of getting a third term). The UAW wants us (the taxpayers, only more the US currency holders since we're never paying back the debt) to subsidize their 50% above-market pay rate and enormous unfunded retirement liabilities. Fine, but PUT THAT EXPLICITLY IN THE BILL! Let's dispense with the utter BS of calling this an industry bailout, or assistance for the US economy, or helping our long-term production, and just title the bill "Extravagant Welfare for the UAW", so everybody is clear on which toilet were flushing the latest untold billions down.

Speaking of toilet residue smeared all over Washington like a crazed diarrheatic monkey got lose, is anybody getting a sense of deja-vu from the last time Congress voted down a massively unpopular special-interest handout to rousing applause and disbelief, only to pass something even worse the next week? If history is any indication, we'll have a welfare bill for the UAW by the end of the year, but in addition to a blank check for subsidizing failure, it'll also have 400 extra pages of pork, a couple hundred billion in extra pork expenditures, and a pay raise for Congress, as a great big glaring FU to anyone with the incomprehensibly misguided notion that Congress is anything more than a gigantic cesspool of corruption, special interests, and socialism poorly masquerading as "helpful government assistance". May they be forced to buy American cars.

Bailout Chrysler? Chrysler is owned by Cerebus LLC an investment firm for the wealthy. Why is it OK to help the rich Wall St guys but not OK to help the working man? This could all be sorted out by a couple of Chapter 11 filings.

does anyone here think for one freakin second that..............................the new 7 series has an ugly nose??? that is my rant...thank you!

no comment on your question ,but thanks for changing the topic

While I'm ranting...

Doe ANYBODY have a fix for the SUPER ANNOYING autospies front-page ad/blurb thingee which keep resizing and moving the articles up and down like some retarded epileptic crack baby on a pogo stick?!?