2010 Lexus HS 250h Hybrid Sedan Confirmed for Detroit

Corolla + Camry + Prius = Lexus?

"Right move".....<

So you're saying this above picture does not resemble the corolla, the camry, and the prius put together? And I would love to see you say it's good looking.

This is another class leader for Lexus.

I just spit my water just seeing this on the screen and you say it's another class leader!?!?!?!

where do people like you come from Chuck? so lexus sucks because of doing the same thing that everyone does, making diesels that will always consume oil, they try to start a revolution?

yeah the first generation hybrids are not super efficient. but nothing is great in its first generation. I'm sure we'll see plug in hybrids from Lexus very soon that will completely smoke the diesels.

hey kids look! it's another rebadged toyota. apparently, a tarted up prius is a 'luxury' car.

david999: a rebadged car is the ultimate badge whore car.

Chuck, please take a look at the sales of the RX400h in Europe and tell me what you think. Also, why is Lexus only going to offer the RX450h in Europe when it goes on sale? How do you figure a small car with a hybrid drivetrain could be a gas guzzler. Now, I am a fan of Nissan and Infiniti but I guarantee soon Nissan will come out with a hybrid. Now go take your medication to control your tourette's outbursts.

If a Civic and a Corolla had a kid it would be this Lexus.

Call it the Lexus Brat :-\

Imagine if EL34 had a kid with anybody...yikes...

:-\

Your comment proves once again you are a blundering moron, and thus a typical Infiniti customer. I enjoy paraodying the absurd parody that is you.

I see your position down at the Lexus dealership is bitchy receptionist. Put in your two weeks notice.

I hope this isn't the design study that this vehicle will be based on. This looks like a Toyota Yaris sedan. They can design this vehicle alot better than this

this pic was probably made by some auto journalist on photoshop. this is not the picture of the car.

No, that can't be 'finessed' into a moderately attractive sedan. Luckily, it isn't a hatchback.

Pray that it will have a traditional Lexus cabin of woodgrain and leather.

If this was asked to be judged a stud or a dud.. Definately a DUD. I agree with everyone who sees the corolla or Yaris in this piece of junk. it is truely ugly.

well im glad everyone thinks that the picture above will be the HS250. i mean it couldnt possibly be a photochop from a japanese magazine...that was released like 2 years ago

when it's revealed this car will get close to 40 mpg, all the snide comments will dissipate.

OR turn to SNIVELING comments about how diesels are more efficient. never mind that the higher costs wipes out any mpg advantage.

it needs to get 50 to be relevant in europe (and europe is why Lexus is making this thing)

Lexus better be working on a next generation GS plug in hybrid. If not I'm buying the Fisker Karma though it will be hard to find 22 inch winter tires

not inconceivable that it could.

considering how lexus names their hybrids, this could have a gas engine of just 1.5 - 1.8 liters, like the prius. many prius owners DO GET 50 mpg.

considering how lexus names their hybrids, even the 2.4 in the camry hybrid likely WILL NOT be under the hood.
i'd guess at the largest, a 2.0 will be used.

Well the V8 powered Q45 didn't do much to the LS400, 430 or even 460L over the years.

You didn't really make a point, as much as you strung together a bunch of illogical phrases. In any case, I've actually driven three generations of the Q and two LS sedans, and I can see how and why Nissan's 'luxury' ended in failure.

Perhaps they can bring back the Johnathan Pryce commercials.

No, the Q was a sales/marketing failure for Nissan. A pretentious natured-theme ad campaign wasn't enough to save that ugly, grilled Q sedan. The LS propelled Lexus to the top of luxury car sales before its first redesign.

Although Toyota and Lexus share many parts I would say they are no longer rebadged Toyotas. HOWEVER, Infiniti's are rebadged Nissan's but who cares about that right?.

screw the Q45, it's just a never was and never will be. infiniti's are just rebadged datsuns. ur g37 sucks and u got ripped off for paying too much for your nissan. go get nissans only economy sports car the 370z. why pay more when the new interior is the same or even better. who wants fake aluminum bits chuck? your car is made of cheap crap that no one wants.

No, the first LS actually lead to Lexus overtaking Acura and Infiniti by 1993, five years before the RX would be introduced.

Just face it, Infiniti will never quite launch a successful flagship sedan.

The first Q45 was nothing more than an oversized land yatch and featured stretches of black plastic and hard 'leather' seats as luxury amenities. Meanwhile, Toyota launched a warm interpretation of luxury and comfort with its LS and for $2-5k less than Nissan's boat.

Are you that clueless as to why Nissan failed so hard?

The first Lexus LS was a true luxury car on par with Mercedes S class of that day. Easily. All the tests at that time said so, and they were correct.

Infiniti has never been able to make a good luxury car. All they do is make a bunch of rebadged Nissan Primeras

Talking to people who have seen the real car, the back end does NOT look like this drawing. Do not criticize the car until you can see a real photo of it, this is only similar.

Chuck G37, The RX is not a rebadged Toyota. It came out long before the Highlander. If anything, the Highlander is a rebadged Lexus. Get your facts correct, please and take your predjudice elsewhere.The LS was NOT a rebadged anything.

Chuck G37, The RX is not a rebadged Toyota. It came out long before the Highlander. If anything, the Highlander is a rebadged Lexus.

lmao you screwed urself over with this one..

rebadged toyota or rebadged lexus , either way it looks and sounds bad!.

every knowledgable person knows the ES300/350 is based on the same platform as the camry.

HOWEVER, a generation or two back, toyota designed the new model to be A LEXUS. then made adaptions for a 4-cyl model, and de-contenting, for the camry.

so in fact, the CAMRY was a re-badged LEXUS. which explains why its high sales took off even more.

this had been mentioned in the press at the time.

and the new ES was introduced and hit showrooms before the camry. proving it had been given priority.

This car needs to have the same drive train Prius has if Lexus wants it to compete with the likes of BMW 316d in europe. At least 50 mpg american.

I guess this car will not have lithium ion until 2010? Once Lexus comes out with a plug in hybrid with lithium ion batteries for a decent price, the diesel dominance in europe will be OVER

Hilarious thread.

I'm sure many of the Toyota Prius owners will find themselves upgrading to this car. However, for IS/ES owners they will stick to those. I still don't find the purpose of having an ES in their lineup besides the fact many elders like the car and I'm not too sure about the HS either.

IS = entry level
GS = mid/full-size
LS = flagship
SC = sports coupe (NOT)

Yeah. Why not just make a hybrid IS and ES? Looks to me like Lexus wants to shake up their lineup big time. We'll see...

lexus has its reasons. and their success in the market proves they are far smarter than gm or chrysler execs.

see the other thread about being a lexus ceo for reasons...

who knows if lexus won't offer a PERFORMANCE HYBRID within the IS line...

Good lord. About 85% of these comments are merely insulting other posters or unintelligently dismissing the article completely. If BMW released the same car, everyone would be praising it.

I think the "photo" is obviously a Photoshop creation, not an official picture of the production version. I give Lexus credit for acknowledging there might be a market for a "luxury" car that gets decent gas mileage. It's time to wake up and realize the equation needs to start shifting from using all engine/drivetrain advancements to merely increase horsepower to improving fuel economy.

prius + new badge = brand new lexus model