VW Says It Is Still On Target To Overtake Toyota In Ten Years Or Less

VW Says It Is Still On Target To Overtake Toyota In Ten Years Or Less
The AIADA newsletter reported today that Volkswagen will keep its long-term growth targets despite poor January sales, but the company sees no improvement soon in the dire global automotive market.

Detlef Wittig, VW group head of sales and marketing, said the January decline shows there is no improvement in sight in the global economic crisis at the moment.

“Our long-term growth targets remain valid despite the difficult overall conditions,” Wittig said in a statement.

VW group aims to catch Toyota as the world’s biggest carmaker by unit sales by 2018. Currently, VW is No. 3.

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veyron1001veyron1001 - 2/12/2009 3:31:53 PM
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Sell the VW that are not currently available in the US and I bet you can be #1 in less time.


VenturaVentura - 2/13/2009 4:02:47 AM
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If Vw's are so unreliable i must be the luckiest guy on earth, converting from kms to miles i had a Vw Golf III 1.6 in wich i've made nearly 300.000 miles then i had a Golf IV TDI in wich i've made nearly 240.000 miles and none of them left me stranded on the side of the road not even once, well, i'm in a passat right now and the only thing i can say is that i hope it reveals to be as unreliable as the Golf!!!


VenturaVentura - 2/13/2009 4:05:08 AM
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Sorry for the placement of the comment above, it should be a reply to the comment of "Sector", just below!!
This should have some kind of a edit button!!!


sectorsector - 2/12/2009 3:51:50 PM
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Yeah sure, that'll be the day VW... those Europeans may care less about how reliable cars are, I mean, they grew up with cars like VW, Alfas, Fiats, BMW etc. they're used to cars that'll leave you stranded on the side of the road... but here in America people actually "care" about the dependability :)


WimmerWimmer - 2/12/2009 4:42:30 PM
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Yeah, we Europeans don't care about reliability. Wow, you can read our minds and you know everything about us...

What a lame ass comment. Of course we care about reliability. And guess what? Here in Europe Volkswagens have a pretty decent reputation for reliability and durability. I say "decent" because they're generally reliable, but they also experience their share of problems. I believe the VW reliability dilemma in the US comes mainly from Mexican-made VWs, where they have obviously a difficult time controlling quality measures etc.


david999david999 - 2/12/2009 5:18:43 PM
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I have to agree with Wimmer about Vws made outside of Germany (Mexico and China). The electricals leave a lot to be desired.


ghosthunterghosthunter - 2/12/2009 8:42:34 PM
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i don't understand the phase 'still on target'. VW said that it would over take Toyota as world largest car company by 2015 in year 2007. now they just postponed by 3 years.

and long term reliability is not something you can build up in 3 years, and the initial quality is virtually worthless because you are covered anyway (worst case you can still fill a lemon)




WillisWillis - 2/13/2009 4:43:57 AM
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"It's a fact that european vehicles have a long established track record for poor reliability in every country they sell in."

What a laughable statement. The major quality issues of European manufacturers have basically begun in the mid 1990s and are slowly disappearing as they have tremendously improved. And because of this you claim they have a "track record"?

Let me turn your stupid logic around and make a reference to the Japanese brands that have sketchy reliability such as Mitsubishi, Subaru etc. and claim that "Japanese cars have a track record of unreliability"! See how stupid such logic is?


_43LE_43LE - 2/12/2009 3:58:21 PM
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I love VWs, I think they drive and look great, good interiors too. Now that's enough for enthusiasts to be hooked. However, to become number 1 you have to appeal to the masses as well and seeing that VW consistently is near the bottom in long term reliability studies I don't see it happening. The reliability factor probably would not sway me from buying one, but I know many people for whom this would be a problem. Also, as VW grows larger, it might have the same problems that Toyota has had.


NItePhireNItePhire - 2/12/2009 4:28:04 PM
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Didnt they say about ten years ago that Ford would be 1 and they would be two. I remember that from somewhere.


manoj87manoj87 - 2/12/2009 5:23:47 PM
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theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 2/12/2009 5:33:42 PM
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I wish them the best of luck, they'll need it.


wkc5354wkc5354 - 2/12/2009 8:16:12 PM
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Reliability or not is not the only thing that concern me. What about Maintenance cost? It cost more to keep a VW going than a Toyota. Trust me i own a 2007 VW Rabbit and just the oil changes cost a lot more than Toyota. Although my Rabbit has been very reliable because it was built in Germany. Interesting because the VW Jetta is built in Mexico. That is one one of the reason why i took the Rabbit 4 dr than the Jetta. I don't know if Rabbit are still built in Germany now but when i was shopping in 2007 it was. Anyways, i think VW needs to lower the Maintenance cost if they want to over take Toyota.


DieselRulesDieselRules - 2/16/2009 12:14:07 AM
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"It cost more to keep a VW going than a Toyota." Oil-changes cost more for a diesel, because you need better oil, but that's offset by a car that lasts twice as long as anything from Toyota (not counting the Land-Cruiser Diesel).

Aftermarket parts are cheaper for VW than for any other brand.
Probably because the Golf/Jetta has not changed significantly since 1976 and is the most popular vehicle on the planet (and I don't want to hear any whining from the Toyota fan-boys who want to add production of a vintage RWD car and totally different FWD car that both share the name "Corolla" , because once you play that game you can add New Beetles to Old Beetles and toyota loses again!)

And because VW brakes last over 100,000 miles and Toyota has the worst brakes in the industry VW offers a big cost saving in comparison. (not to mention safety)
On tires and batteries, they're the same, and VW exhausts last well over decade ... hopefully Toyota does now too.

So, not much of an argument in favor of Toyota there.


E36erE36er - 2/13/2009 12:21:15 AM
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This comment an example of typical German arrogance. Don't get me wrong, I like VW but I don't see them overtaking Toyota ever. As some of the previous posts state, VW's have a QA/QC record that borders on the absurd. ALL my friends that owned a VW tell me that they will never buy another one.

Would I consider a VW over a Toyota, maybe. Will the average Toyota buyer do the same, never.


WimmerWimmer - 2/13/2009 4:49:20 AM
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Typical German arrogance, huh? What typical German arrogance? Someone at VW makes this statement and immediately it is labeled as typical German arrogance? I am offended at this remark.


DieselRulesDieselRules - 2/15/2009 11:13:32 PM
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Check the facts. VW spends more on vehicle technology R&D than anyone on the planet.
The Germans spend big $$$ creating new technology.
Toyota spends less $$$ making it cheap to produce.
That's why their profits are higher (and they always lag the Europeans ... try to find one safety feature on a Lexus that wasn't on a Benz or VW years earlier)


lexworldlexworld - 2/13/2009 10:11:08 AM
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I do agree that Wimmer should be banned from this site permanently. The point here is VW will never catch up with Toyota...Period. The perception and reality is way too strong for VW to even concieve of such a notion. "What a Joke"!


WimmerWimmer - 2/13/2009 5:41:24 PM
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Really? What have I said that should warrant a banning? Oh, defending myself? Adding a few comments based on experiences and facts? Gee, I didn't know that was illegal on this site. Maybe I should go around dreaming up fairy tales like you do with your constant Lexus trolling.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 2/14/2009 1:19:13 AM
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I wish they wouldn't focus on size. Time to look at PRODUCTS and how to improve them.


DieselRulesDieselRules - 2/16/2009 12:22:47 AM
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I just drove a CC with the 2.0-T and 6-speed Tiptronic.
For the price that car is amazing!
It compares with cars costing $10k more.

And I saw way more NEW VWs and Audis in Thailand this month than I did 14 months ago. Especially the Eurovan TDI, which looks different from the last one sold here, and the new A4. I saw more Audis than Mercedes and BMWs combined in Bangkok.


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